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Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2315	Posted - 2014.05.18 00:05:00 - [31] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Also, the idea of calling these guys "Mercenaries" is a little off-putting. I've never liked it. Mercenary is a profession, if anything. Capsuleers are unmistakable, we know exactly what they are, but when someone says something about "Mercenaries" there is some confusion there. I like the idea of calling the ground guys Legionnaires, honestly. Only way that can be confused is with some rather die-hard Amarr guys, I suppose. Or people who work for the Legion, Mordu's Legion. Something special needs to be taken that has nothing to do with the races tbh...... I'd say we go for a god's name (or a group that has to do with a god), or a name describing how our clones work (as that's how EVE and Valkyrie's immortals were named). How our clones work, a? First thing that comes to mind is the cylons from Battle Star Golactica. lolno. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3388	Posted - 2014.05.18 00:12:00 - [32] - Quote I like AtiimGÇÖs idea of having a colored tag that says DUST on our avatar on the forums. Just like the tag the DevGÇÖs have, except maybe make it green and replace GÇ£DEVGÇ¥ with GÇ£514GÇ¥. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi Myrmidon Syndicate 5	Posted - 2014.05.18 00:13:00 - [33] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: -Special Starting Corp that we always go back to when we quit a real one -Special Tag that only DUST players could have -Special Dropsuit Skin/Blueprint (Infinite runs) of our selected (or reselected) Race -Small ISK "Coming out of Retirement" fund (1-2 Mil) -Unique Forum Avatars (Perhaps the Current ones, and the new Legionnaires getting different ones) -Extra SP (if we still have a skill system similar to this) or Free time to spend on a skill to level it faster I like these ideas... I really like the idea of our own starter corp.
Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi Myrmidon Syndicate 5	Posted - 2014.05.18 00:25:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2316	Posted - 2014.05.18 00:34:00 - [35] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: -Special Starting Corp that we always go back to when we quit a real one -Special Tag that only DUST players could have -Special Dropsuit Skin/Blueprint (Infinite runs) of our selected (or reselected) Race -Small ISK "Coming out of Retirement" fund (1-2 Mil) -Unique Forum Avatars (Perhaps the Current ones, and the new Legionnaires getting different ones) -Extra SP (if we still have a skill system similar to this) or Free time to spend on a skill to level it faster I like these ideas... I'd rather us have custom faces like EVE....... click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5665	Posted - 2014.05.18 01:04:00 - [36] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. To be clear, you're referring to namesake titles and not product titles (Dust 514, Eve Online, Eve: Legion) correct? Yep, like "His Royal Awesomeness" Saberwing. Or something to that effect Well, if I may make a suggestion.... Legionnaire is still the best choice in a ten degrees of separate sort of way. Mordu's Legion, Eve: Legion, Mordu's Private Trials... Legionnaires... Technically that only applies to people who played through closed beta but, yanno - maybe another title for those that came after. "Legionnaire" Aeon Amadi "First Gen" Aeon Amadi (Replication) "Second Gen" Aeon Amadi (Chromosome) "Third Gen" Aeon Amadi (Uprising) Just a thought. EDIT: Then again, "Replicator" Aeon Amadi, "Rebel" Aeon Amadi could work for the different builds... I dunno, just spit-balling here. What about Codex bro? Just ** Codex eh? If that's sarcasm, lol. If you're being serious, holy ** calm down dude I can't remember every single build over the past two years. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2316	Posted - 2014.05.18 01:36:00 - [37] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: If that's sarcasm, lol. If you're being serious, holy ** calm down dude I can't remember every single build over the past two years. Na, you missed codex, so therefore you said Codex. them some fighting words, so we gonna have to fight about this. I expect to see your skinny ass in the bar in 5 minutes or I'm flipping ** click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 4835	Posted - 2014.05.18 02:35:00 - [38] - Quote Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. Really have no idea at this point, because we're not creating this yet. My guess would be it would be a purely cosmetic feature. I don't think it would be referenced "in battle" as such, but probably on Forums, Website, etc. These are still preliminary designs and the web work isn't scheduled in for several months yet. There's a lot of other important game related things we have to tackle first to ensure this game gets given the go-ahead. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

DaReaperPW Net 7 The Last Brigade 25	Posted - 2014.05.18 04:07:00 - [39] - Quote I personally have one itty bitty issue. IF eve unification happens, i have an Eve char that is 10 years old, DaReaper, so i would prolly just use that name in legion.. but if DaReaperPW is brought over... I'd love a way to combine the two, that would be beneficial. But its not a big deal, though would be slightly inconvenient if one universe, one account, one log in (Eve unification) happens
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death Final Resolution. 170	Posted - 2014.05.18 04:42:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. We should also get special weapons and suits with the 'Veteran' on it.

SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 793	Posted - 2014.05.18 06:00:00 - [41] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: We should also get special weapons and suits with the 'Veteran' on it. I think a cooler thing would be special effects for veterans. I would love a gold inertial dampener FX to go with my gold pod in Eve. Dust/Eve transfers
Zion Shad ZionTCD Top Men. 2264	Posted - 2014.05.18 06:08:00 - [42] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates. - Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to Tranquility. - You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta. These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful. Not a bad idea... I would also like the MAG related dropsuits to continue, but not as a BPO. Thats just me R.I.P Mag CPM1 Hopeful
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2793	Posted - 2014.05.18 07:54:00 - [43] - Quote I would also like a unique title that is seen in your name. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 441	Posted - 2014.05.18 09:24:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Jackal OfxThe Kilrathi wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. When you say titles. Do you mean at the bottom of my screen it would say something like 514 logistic suit wel I'm targeting them?Because this might make me think twice about shooting him and jacking his lot. As if we were a part of the same brotherhood. Really have no idea at this point, because we're not creating this yet. My guess would be it would be a purely cosmetic feature. I don't think it would be referenced "in battle" as such, but probably on Forums, Website, etc. These are still preliminary designs and the web work isn't scheduled in for several months yet. There's a lot of other important game related things we have to tackle first to ensure this game gets given the go-ahead. Please make it an in-game thing. Most players of any game don't visit the forums. I want someone to see a former Dust player and recognize them as veteran. It would also lead to interesting dynamics in the sandbox. Two Dusters might randomly meet and decide to harrass non-veterans for ***** and giggles.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2319	Posted - 2014.05.18 14:47:00 - [45] - Quote Zion Shad wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates. - Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to Tranquility. - You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta. These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful. Not a bad idea... I would also like the MAG related dropsuits to continue, but not as a BPO. Thats just me R.I.P Mag They could still exist as BPO, just for manufacturing purposes (since the small number of people is going over, then those suits will dwindle in numbers, so overall there will be a small supply of them). EDIT: Also this click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 760	Posted - 2014.05.18 19:02:00 - [46] - Quote In addition to original dates would like medals. Optional switchable. Issuer - CCP. Star of the Closed Beta Star of the Open Beta Star of Dust We deserve them. Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
man- bear pig Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2014.05.19 20:04:00 - [47] - Quote It would be nice if you had a Beta test group of only Dust players, or have the majority of the Beta invites go to dust players. Like many players, I always liked the concept and idea of Dust, and I understand why you are bring it back to PC. I really just want to be included on the next step forward with the series. You won't get everyone, as you can already tell from other angry forums, but you would get enough of us to really help with the Dev. process.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3080	Posted - 2014.05.19 22:38:00 - [48] - Quote i belive i read some where that all dust 514 players would get legion invites which tbh is a smart move we already know how dust works :D so we can get to testing a lot faster. i would love some kind of showoff item like a shiny red and gold dropsuit that you see and your like dam that guy is a oldschool badass, just somthing to really make us stand out in the warbarge, once it hits PC are measly number will be dwarfed by the others so we will become a rare collectors item to EvE players :P yes you read that right "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 726	Posted - 2014.05.19 23:11:00 - [49] - Quote DaReaperPW wrote: I personally have one itty bitty issue. IF eve unification happens, i have an Eve char that is 10 years old, DaReaper, so i would prolly just use that name in legion.. but if DaReaperPW is brought over... I'd love a way to combine the two, that would be beneficial. But its not a big deal, though would be slightly inconvenient if one universe, one account, one log in (Eve unification) happens I would be in a similar situation with my main on DUST and my old eve characters. Similar names, would be cool to merge but not too fussed to be honest.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 726	Posted - 2014.05.19 23:12:00 - [50] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: i belive i read some where that all dust 514 players would get legion invites which tbh is a smart move we already know how dust works :D so we can get to testing a lot faster. i would love some kind of showoff item like a shiny red and gold dropsuit that you see and your like dam that guy is a oldschool badass, just somthing to really make us stand out in the warbarge, once it hits PC are measly number will be dwarfed by the others so we will become a rare collectors item to EvE players :P yes you read that right This is very EVE like in nature. CCP a special suit for old DUST veterans on Legion would be awesome indeed. I am also curious what is going to happen to our current blueprint suits, weapons and items..?

Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2083	Posted - 2014.05.20 14:40:00 - [51] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I think DUST characters migrated to Legion should retain their original creation dates. - Closed Beta vets all have the same birth date. They day DUST 514 was transferred to Tranquility. - You can also identify from the date if someone was from Open Beta, or at least from DUST before the Legion announcement, or at least before Legion Beta. These creation dates will be a point of pride, especially if Legion is successful. These are good ideas, I have to jump in here and take it a step further however. While I want my characters history, name, creation, etc preserved and think that all current Dust players at the time of Legion launch deserve to have character preservation, we are not truly getting to keep our characters unless we can also transfer persistent assets of substance. These persistent tangible assets are the meat and bones of what we've worked so hard on all these months (or years, depending). Things like Skill Points BPOs ISK Gear Character stats The above is listed in descending order, I'll elaborate; Skill Points - This is the most substantial core of any character, it most directly represents our time invested, our success (or failure, you earn SP for both ) on the field, and our overall dedication to the game over the long haul. Regardless of how the progression system for Legion is rolled out this time spent by Dust mercs now and in the past must be recognized in a meaningful mechanical way or the promise of persistence, and thus faith with the community, has been broken. BPOs - These should be even easier to keep in Legion, all Dropsuits are already slated to be BPOs. It is a given that many specific stats might change between now and Legion launch but all current BPOs should be assets migrated into Legion as recognition of those who supported Dust in its infancy, spent IRL funds on it, recruited new players to the game (even in the face of the still unfixed recruiting system), played the events, and bought the EVE Collectors Edition which is still on sale as of this week. ISK - Market balance may change, so wallets may be scaled, but something for all the ISK earned in Dust should be given a serious look in migration to Legion. Even if all Dust ISK were transferred it would still be only a drop in the bucket compared to the ISK of EVE, something to consider in the face of a truly integrated economy. Gear - Easy, just like the BPOs. Yes stats will change, this is a given but even if the names change and Pro becomes "rare" etc there are clear equivalents (and with the sale of things like the EVE Collectors Edition there should be equivalents maintained) which can be provided in the assets of the transferred characters. Of course they'll still have to invest their SP to use such things within the Legion framework but that's always been the way and in its own right helps to sustain persistence. [ Stats - I've long said some of our stats are broken, as such this only makes the end of my list but I know it's an issue some players care about so it bears mentioning. Any stats that are going to be tracked within Legion should be transferred with the mercs incoming from Dust 514. Meaningful Persistence - This is fundamental to the nature of the game Dust was presented to be, the nature of the New Eden sandbox, and to demonstrating a meaningful respect for the player base. CCP, the sooner you can step forward to remove that nagging fear of persistence in name only, the sooner we as a community can once again move on with confidence that we're playing a game where our choices matter, and after all that's why we're here in New Eden. 0.02 ISK Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3419	Posted - 2014.05.20 16:23:00 - [52] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Stuff Skill Points: As long as they continue to have passive skill point gain over time, there is a way to transfer skill points fairly even if they dramatically change the value of a skill point. It is called GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥. Basically GÇ£Equivalent Passive TimeGÇ¥ means calculating the time it would have taken you to earn your current total skill points in DUST 514 if your account had not been played. So, if you played your account, or used boosters, or both, your Equivalent Passive Time would be quite a bit longer than the actual age of your account. The difference between the age of your account, and your Equivalent Passive Time, represents the additional impact of skill points earned in matches and from boosters. Then you take your Equivalent Passive Time from DUST 514, and multiply it by the passive skill point accrual rate in Legion, and it will give you a quantity of skill points that is equivalent in value to the skill points you have in DUST 514. BPOGÇÖs: Suits: At the very least we should get suits of the appropriate class with the same look as the original. (Skins) Provided that the suit exists in Legion. (I think the Commando is going to be added, but it might have a different role in Legion.) Other BPOGÇÖs: If they donGÇÖt have BPOGÇÖs in Legion, or BPOGÇÖs function very differently I hope people will be accommodating. I donGÇÖt get the GÇ£you have to introduce a broken mechanic into the game because I paid for something 2 years agoGÇ¥ mentality. The Devs should do what is best for the game first, and then try to accommodate the people who were effected by the change second. ISK: Totally agree. ISK should be transferred 1:1. If there is inflation, I am fine with that. Gear: All gear that exists in Legion should be transferred. Gear that does not exist in Legion should be converted to ISK at DUST 514 value and transfer as ISK. (There is gear that you canGÇÖt get in DUST anymore, that some people still have in their inventories.) Character stats: I sort of think it might be better not to transfer stats. My main reason for this is that I want them to change the definition of a kill/death to correspond to the loss of a clone, so if you get revived it does not count as a death for you or a kill for the guy that dropped you. If this change is implemented it will make DUST Kill/Death stats invalid. Maybe the DUST states could be saved on a separate archival record, rather than trying to integrate the old stats with the new Legion stats. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Forlorn Destrier 2504	Posted - 2014.05.20 17:52:00 - [53] - Quote I would like to have the original creation date of my first Dust character back. I've been "wiped" twice now. My original character was created on May 18, 2012. It was wiped in July or August of that year year when there was a full reset, and again when the open beta came about. And I agree that this is a major point of pride and I would love to have this date back.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2267	Posted - 2014.05.20 23:21:00 - [54] - Quote Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all. That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic. Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first". If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs. That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon. dent308: humans are filthy crazy things that shit in their own homes
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2366	Posted - 2014.05.21 00:36:00 - [55] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Dust vets should get BPO suits that use prototype colors. We were the prototypes, after all. That shouldn't be too hard to balance in as all suits are going to be BPOs anyway. proto colors would just be cosmetic. Weapons would be harder to balance into the player market as BPOs. But they are worth taking a look into as I'm sure everyone here wants a weapon that they could use to proudly display on the killboard that "I was here first". If militia weapons are going to have both drawbacks of lower mag cap and higher fitting costs, I'd say BPO 'Prototype" weaponry should have standard mag caps, but with militia fitting costs. That would make STD (or equivalent meta level, however that's going to work) weaponry better while letting vain a-holes like me get their kicks from showing up on the killfeed with a rare weapon. I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right? click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property 1674	Posted - 2014.05.21 00:40:00 - [56] - Quote It should show up in game, something like a leather jacket we wear in station that reads '514' or on our dropsuits. It should also show up in the Show Info tab on us, as 'We were there' or something. Our BPO's should all get unique skins- thinks like Exiles should get dark blue paint, while 'Recruit' gear gets something connotating 'fresh from the boat' like a green stripe. We should get unique BPO's specifically for our involvement in DUST. Also, this would be nice, an invite to Legion Beta/Alpha BEFORE the Eve people get in. It's our beta testing we did these past years. As for how the BPO weapons work? Make them applyable skins, that ad the prefix to the weapon- like an 'Exile Plasma Rifle or a 'Staff Recruiter Sniper Rifle' which would still cost the same as a normal gun, maybe even more(like 300 isk) to apply the skin. Also- Staff Recruiter weapons deserve SHINING PLATINUM paint. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2268	Posted - 2014.05.21 01:54:00 - [57] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: I have a fix for that: BPO are for........................ manufacturing! I know, amazing, right? As long as I get my fancy named guns I'm cool with anything. dent308: humans are filthy crazy things that shit in their own homes
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 268	Posted - 2014.05.21 02:09:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. He'll yeah i have two dust mercs ready for the transfer! Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
emm kay Binary Mercs Canis Eliminatus Operatives 91	Posted - 2014.05.21 02:36:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Ok then. Thanks. Makes me feel more at ease. Gotta keep dat Maken Tosch. emm kay! however, I would like to have the folloing for dust 514 players: - Specialized minmatar standard frame (BPO). - has same stats as standard medium frame. (not affected by racial skills) - big red letters carved into it that say '514' - Numbers Glow when they get hit ( eventually they burst upon death) - Upon death, the mercanary (still standing) turns into dust and the dust slowly floats away (angelically). Gives us recognition, while keeping it simple and not flashy. -- You called, sir?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2835	Posted - 2014.05.21 05:16:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We've been talking about having customized "titles" or the like, and more than likely there would be some sort of title associated with players who choose to migrate over from DUST. Cool cool! This message was brought to you by the PC master race.



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