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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:51:00 -
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if you, sometime, will release the Legion on ps4
I mean dont do cross-platform gaming PC and ps4 in one room.
We want no cheaters when we play on our consoles. We left PC platform because there is cheaters (not so many of them, but everywhere) everywhere.
All PC's multiplayer games ruined by cheaters of any kind.
You already made big mistake with support mouse+keyboard and gamepads in one time. Dont make bigger mistake. |
Tweaksz
Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition
90
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:53:00 -
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lolwut
Pill Popping Madness!
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:54:00 -
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shooter on PC = welcome to cheaters
i dont care about PC players, they used to be in this crap
but i dont want play on my ps4 with cheaters on PC |
Tweaksz
Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:02:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:shooter on PC = welcome to cheaters i dont care about PC players, they used to be in this crap but i dont want play on my ps4 with cheaters on PC Well don't get your hopes up CCP - Single Shard server. There's a Bon Jovi joke somehwere here.
Pill Popping Madness!
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:03:00 -
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...sorry for bad English =)
>>> Legion rdy!
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:12:00 -
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Yeah we don't want PS4 players with built in aimbots in Legion.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
PC > Console
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:15:00 -
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McFurious wrote:Yeah we don't want PS4 players with built in aimbots in Legion.
No one want aim assist. But devs do it for noobs who first time got pad in their crab's pincers.
Most of them came from PC.
I prefer play without aim assist, but not many devs do it. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:17:00 -
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Tweaksz wrote:dalt ud wrote:shooter on PC = welcome to cheaters i dont care about PC players, they used to be in this crap but i dont want play on my ps4 with cheaters on PC Well don't get your hopes up CCP - Single Shard server. There's a Bon Jovi joke somehwere here.
dust514 players will play together with legion players?
Its Single Shard server. Why not? |
John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:20:00 -
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Better pray for port to ps4 )))
...sorry for bad English =)
>>> Legion rdy!
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
685
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:26:00 -
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John Psi wrote:Better pray for port to ps4 )))
if it will cross-gaming with PC - i wont play this crap even on ps4
macroses, modded clients, cheaters - its pleasure only for PC players |
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:29:00 -
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In this case, you're obviously mistaken temple ))
...sorry for bad English =)
>>> Legion rdy!
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
685
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:37:00 -
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John Psi wrote:In this case, you're obviously mistaken temple ))
No, dust514 in chromosome was good, its possible to make good game on ps4
if no cross-gaming with PC and no support mouses and no aim assist for gamepads
I am not believe in future of this game, but who knows? |
John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:39:00 -
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Repeat: u need temple for unbelievers )))
...sorry for bad English =)
>>> Legion rdy!
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John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
657
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:41:00 -
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Corpchat stopped by me ))) 0/
...sorry for bad English =)
>>> Legion rdy!
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:45:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:if you, sometime, will release the Legion on ps4
I mean dont do cross-platform gaming PC and ps4 in one room.
We want no cheaters when we play on our consoles. We left PC platform because there is cheaters (not so many of them, but everywhere) everywhere.
All PC's multiplayer games ruined by cheaters of any kind.
You already made big mistake with support mouse+keyboard and gamepads in one time. Dont make bigger mistake. Their main mistake was trying to go console in the first place. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:53:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:John Psi wrote:Better pray for port to ps4 ))) if it will cross-gaming with PC - i wont play this crap even on ps4 macroses, modded clients, cheaters - its pleasure only for PC players
That's no different from modded controllers and lag switchers that exist in console games. Take a look at CoD and Halo multiplayer and you'll see what I mean.
My point here is that there is no point in trying to demonize PC when the console is infected with cheaters also. They're not the same cheaters, but they are cheaters none the less.
Honestly I hate this animosity between the console crowd and the PC crowd. It's like looking at all the Apple users and Android users bickering over whose phone is the best. Seriously, enough is enough. I hate this whole PC-vs-Console conflict. It's just nothing more than reason for epeen strokers and neckbeards to beat their chests like gorillas.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:dalt ud wrote:John Psi wrote:Better pray for port to ps4 ))) if it will cross-gaming with PC - i wont play this crap even on ps4 macroses, modded clients, cheaters - its pleasure only for PC players That's no different from modded controllers and lag switchers that exist in console games. Take a look at CoD and Halo multiplayer and you'll see what I mean. My point here is that there is no point in trying to demonize PC when the console is infected with cheaters also. They're not the same cheaters, but they are cheaters none the less. Honestly I hate this animosity between the console crowd and the PC crowd. It's like looking at all the Apple users and Android users bickering over whose phone is the best. Seriously, enough is enough. I hate this whole PC-vs-Console conflict. It's just nothing more than reason for epeen strokers and neckbeards to beat their chests like gorillas.
Modded controller is nothing, in good games it dont make any advantage. Lagswitch seems to be like kid tales, all talk about, no one really tried. And it not work in games with dedicated servers.
In good games on consoles no cheaters at all.
On PC cheatmakers have total control over RAM, and HDD and client of game. Sorry, but only total ignorant man can compare cheating on PC with consoles.
As i see - you just trying to do not believe in ruined PC platform. You can believe in everything you want, it wont change the truth.
When the Legion will released on PC - 1/4 of threads of this forums will be about cheaters. You will see.
p.s. and i dont care about "PC vs consoles" holywar - i talk about facts. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
685
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:40:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: Their main mistake was trying to go console in the first place.
Yeah, CCP too incompetent to make games on consoles (at least as shootermakers).
But concept of game was great, and sad to see how it died on ps3, and will die on PC.
In fact, on PC in this game will play EVE players only. Other people will choose games with better quality, as it was on ps3. They wont wait while CCP will transform crap to candy. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:42:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Buster Friently wrote: Their main mistake was trying to go console in the first place.
Yeah, CCP too incompetent to make games on consoles (at least as shootermakers). But concept of game was great, and sad to see how it died on ps3, and will die on PC. In fact, on PC in this game will play EVE players only. Other people will choose games with better quality, as it was on ps3. They wont wait while CCP will transform crap to candy.
You console guys really take the cake. Once you learn to spell, then come discuss how or why a game might succeed or fail. Until then, it's like arguing macroeconomics with my five year old niece.
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
685
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:48:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:dalt ud wrote:Buster Friently wrote: Their main mistake was trying to go console in the first place.
Yeah, CCP too incompetent to make games on consoles (at least as shootermakers). But concept of game was great, and sad to see how it died on ps3, and will die on PC. In fact, on PC in this game will play EVE players only. Other people will choose games with better quality, as it was on ps3. They wont wait while CCP will transform crap to candy. You console guys really take the cake. Once you learn to spell, then come discuss how or why a game might succeed or fail. Until then, it's like arguing macroeconomics with my five year old niece.
What we have in dust514:
1. total broken balance 2. broken netcode 3. blind devs, who dont see 1 and 2 at all
What you will have in Legion?
1. same devs
In total: lets talk about macroeconomic?
p.s. as you can see, all 1,2 and 3 dont depend by platform at all. |
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:50:00 -
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the grammar in this thread is ridiculous............
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:54:00 -
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All of you will alfa and beta testers, and when project will ready - it will released on ps4 (or Xone). And its only way to success for CCP. PC as gaming platform almost dead. Its fact.
But it will mistake if CCP will make crossgaming PC and console.
They didt balance mouse vs gampad in dust514. I dont believe they will make good balance platform vs platform. Plus problem of cheaters. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:55:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:the grammar in this thread is ridiculous............
English is not native language for me. I do my best |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:01:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:All of you will alfa and beta testers, and when project will ready - it will released on ps4 (or Xone). And its only way to success for CCP. PC as gaming platform almost dead.
But it will mistake if CCP will make crossgaming PC and console.
They didt balance mouse vs gampad in dust514. I dont believe they will make good balance platform vs platform. Plus problem of cheaters.
Dude, you need to just quit.
PC gaming almost dead? Here: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ and that's just Steam. Here's an article about where the money iscurrently coming from: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/analyst-pc-gaming-now-brings-in-more-money-than-console-gaming/
Gaming companies are in the business to make money. They will follow the money, which right now means more emphasis on PC and Mobile than consoles.
Here's the deal regarding the future, no one knows, but there's a reason that Microsoft went all "entertainment console" with the XBone. You want to know why? It's because the console market is currently being squeezed from both sides. If any market is about to implode, it's consoles as dedicated gaming platforms. You have mobile squeezing from the low cost, casual gamer side (the traditional console market BTW) and PC as ever squeezing from the "hardcore" more expensive side. This leaves consoles in the awkward middle with nowhere to go.
This is why you're seeing a resurgence in PC gaming now (at least those of us with PCs are) and a relative stagnation in the console market. The burn hasn't really hit the console market too bad yet, but give it a year or two. Every time you see some company port their game to Android or IPhone, you should be worried. That's your market being eroded in front of your eyes. |
Nyctohylophobia
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:07:00 -
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a peasant. OP is so grossly misinformed about PC and PC gaming that is just sad.
Oh, anyone wants popcorn? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2338
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:12:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Buster Friently wrote:dalt ud wrote:Buster Friently wrote: Their main mistake was trying to go console in the first place.
Yeah, CCP too incompetent to make games on consoles (at least as shootermakers). But concept of game was great, and sad to see how it died on ps3, and will die on PC. In fact, on PC in this game will play EVE players only. Other people will choose games with better quality, as it was on ps3. They wont wait while CCP will transform crap to candy. You console guys really take the cake. Once you learn to spell, then come discuss how or why a game might succeed or fail. Until then, it's like arguing macroeconomics with my five year old niece. What we have in dust514: 1. total broken balance 2. broken netcode 3. blind devs, who dont see 1 and 2 at all What you will have in Legion? 1. same devs In total: lets talk about macroeconomic? p.s. as you can see, all 1,2 and 3 dont depend by platform at all.
First, let me apologize for the spelling comment. I see you've posted that English isn't your native language. I'd like to say that you're doing better than I would in an alternate language.
Now, your logic though, has a long way to go.
As far as your points, only number 2 means anything. Not only that, but number 2 is, absolutely, platform dependent. So, yeah, I think that they can do better on PC than on the outdated PS3. Whether they actually do or not? Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
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dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
686
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:27:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: First, let me apologize for the spelling comment. I see you've posted that English isn't your native language. I'd like to say that you're doing better than I would in an alternate language.
Now, your logic though, has a long way to go.
As far as your points, only number 2 means anything. Not only that, but number 2 is, absolutely, platform dependent. So, yeah, I think that they can do better on PC than on the outdated PS3. Whether they actually do or not? Well, we'll just have to wait and see.
No problem at all about the spelling comments. In my native language i dislake illiterate people too. So if you saw me as illiterate native english speaker - its good sign for me I got English in games only, no school at all.
And about netcode. PS3 have a lot of shooters with fine netcode, fine balance and fine devs. So it is possible to do the same in dust514. But that was didnt done. So its only devs fault.
I have to agree, ps3 with 512 RAM not best platform for multiplayer shooters. But ps3 have a lot perfect shooters.
Ok, CCP cant make more than 16vs16. But why they didnt perfect shooter for 16vs16? Where everything (netcode,balance, engine) is fine?
They made really bad game (except chromosome) and instead optimizing it - just said "we change platform". How can i believe they will optimize PC (and ps4) projects? Same devs?
I see how CCP ruined dust514, because just dont know what good shooter is. Changing of platform will teach them how to make shooters? |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
686
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:42:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:dalt ud wrote:All of you will alfa and beta testers, and when project will ready - it will released on ps4 (or Xone). And its only way to success for CCP. PC as gaming platform almost dead.
But it will mistake if CCP will make crossgaming PC and console.
They didt balance mouse vs gampad in dust514. I dont believe they will make good balance platform vs platform. Plus problem of cheaters.
Dude, you need to just quit. PC gaming almost dead? Here: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ and that's just Steam. Here's an article about where the money iscurrently coming from: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/analyst-pc-gaming-now-brings-in-more-money-than-console-gaming/Gaming companies are in the business to make money. They will follow the money, which right now means more emphasis on PC and Mobile than consoles. Here's the deal regarding the future, no one knows, but there's a reason that Microsoft went all "entertainment console" with the XBone. You want to know why? It's because the console market is currently being squeezed from both sides. If any market is about to implode, it's consoles as dedicated gaming platforms. You have mobile squeezing from the low cost, casual gamer side (the traditional console market BTW) and PC as ever squeezing from the "hardcore" more expensive side. This leaves consoles in the awkward middle with nowhere to go. This is why you're seeing a resurgence in PC gaming now (at least those of us with PCs are) and a relative stagnation in the console market. The burn hasn't really hit the console market too bad yet, but give it a year or two. Every time you see some company port their game to Android or IPhone, you should be worried. That's your market being eroded in front of your eyes.
ps3 and x360 it is 140 millions units. ps4 will more popular than ps3
Its fact - gaming companies have aim to consoles and PC is second target. Even Blizzard made console version of Diablo.
Battlefield 3 - consoles players (ps3+x360) was twice more than PC battlefield 4 - almost x4 more players on consoles, just see current online players on http://bf4stats.com/ Current online of bf4: PC - 28,860 PS3 - 31,544 360 - 24,568 xbone - 21,671 ps4 - 43,685
So yes, PC gaming has big problems now. |
Nyctohylophobia
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:44:00 -
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dalt ud wrote:Buster Friently wrote:dalt ud wrote:All of you will alfa and beta testers, and when project will ready - it will released on ps4 (or Xone). And its only way to success for CCP. PC as gaming platform almost dead.
But it will mistake if CCP will make crossgaming PC and console.
They didt balance mouse vs gampad in dust514. I dont believe they will make good balance platform vs platform. Plus problem of cheaters.
Dude, you need to just quit. PC gaming almost dead? Here: http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ and that's just Steam. Here's an article about where the money iscurrently coming from: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/analyst-pc-gaming-now-brings-in-more-money-than-console-gaming/Gaming companies are in the business to make money. They will follow the money, which right now means more emphasis on PC and Mobile than consoles. Here's the deal regarding the future, no one knows, but there's a reason that Microsoft went all "entertainment console" with the XBone. You want to know why? It's because the console market is currently being squeezed from both sides. If any market is about to implode, it's consoles as dedicated gaming platforms. You have mobile squeezing from the low cost, casual gamer side (the traditional console market BTW) and PC as ever squeezing from the "hardcore" more expensive side. This leaves consoles in the awkward middle with nowhere to go. This is why you're seeing a resurgence in PC gaming now (at least those of us with PCs are) and a relative stagnation in the console market. The burn hasn't really hit the console market too bad yet, but give it a year or two. Every time you see some company port their game to Android or IPhone, you should be worried. That's your market being eroded in front of your eyes. ps3 and x360 it is 140 millions units. ps4 will more popular than ps3 Its fact - gaming companies have aim to consoles and PC is second target. Even Blizzard made console version of Diablo. Battlefield 3 - consoles players (ps3+x360) was twice more than PC battlefield 4 - almost x4 more players on consoles, just see current online players on http://bf4stats.com/So yes, PC gaming has big problems now.
You need to take a step back and reevaluate your own arguments because your logic goes by numbers and if we go by numbers, consoles would be dead too because of the insane numbers of mobile devices like smart phones and tablets. |
dalt ud
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
686
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:47:00 -
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Nyctohylophobia wrote: You need to take a step back and reevaluate your own arguments because your logic goes by numbers and if we go by numbers, consoles would be dead too because of the insane numbers of mobile devices like smart phones and tablets.
For current moment mobile devices is not competitor for consoles. Its different type of games, and different people who play it..
But in future, probably, it will be competitor. We will see. |
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