Everyone needs to know about the razor deathadder mouse. Apparently they are super sensitive and it appears that dust 514 was designed for this kind of similar equipment. So this is why I can't snipe very well on a controller but can watch a u tube video of someone getting 30 + sniping kills on a PC. Also mouse and keyboard players can sprint, move and shoot all at the same time and controller players can not press R3 and move as easily or shoot as easily. This is the same on all the controller settings. When LEGION is released I hope that the mouse and keyboard settings will be balanced and more equal to the controller settings or vice versa. Don't forget that there must be a reason that you came to consoles in the first place, more players! Now give us a fare chance. No one likes to play with cheaters! The majority of console players that switch to PC will still want to use controllers and they should be equal to keyboard and mouse. Console players don't want to play the game hunched over, staring at a computer screen on a swivel chair. We want to play it laying on the sofa with a beer in hand, staring at the big home theater screen.

Sensitivity on the mouse is far far superior. Controls on the keyboard simply allow you to do more. IE. sprint, strife and shoot at the same time.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you admitting that keyboard and mouse players do have a tremendous advantage and just saying the deathadder mouse is not that great. I believe that all controller players have realized by now how much of a disadvantage they have been in dust 514. I hope this does not continue into LEGION

Yes. So, u PC mouse-equipped?

I am a PS3 player but I have exparienced the game on PC through friends. Once you get used to mouse and keyboard, it is far superior. Strifeing is actually much faster as well.

The attempt to balance by nerfing the mouse/kb will not continue, if that's what you mean.

Being on the PC means a lot of things - one of them is that the mouse and KB controls need to be sharp and clean. They need to be the priority for development.

I have thought about purchasing a better PC for this game. But even I will not be able to purchase a $36,000.00 60" TN panell monitor. I would rather play the game in my living room on my 60" LED with a controller.

Excellent, I hope your friends have a mouse.
Do not forget to use it.

I have thought about purchasing a better PC for this game. But even I will not be able to purchase a $36,000.00 60" TN panell monitor. I would rather play the game in my living room on my 60" LED with a controller.

The attempt to balance by nerfing the mouse/kb will not continue, if that's what you mean.

Being on the PC means a lot of things - one of them is that the mouse and KB controls need to be sharp and clean. They need to be the priority for development.

On PC the competitivity is more fierce, like theres tons of good shooters for free. If Legion dosent work right, I see a bad future ahead of it.

So CCP, get to work.

not with a keyboard and mouse it dont.

There are quite a few ways to do it.

I just go for the oldschool way myself:

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I know that there are many of you guys out there on PC using keyboard and mouse. You like to imagian that these are the best controls in the world right? The kind of controls the millitary uses to control drones and stuff. You are the most talented war gamer in the world right? WRONG!!! The millitary has far far advanced since the days of the invention of the mouse. There are things like leap motion control, used with your hands and eye piece controls that track the movement of your eye ball. The millitary has stuff so advanced and better than the mouse that they will not even tell you about it.

It is time to except EVE for what it is; a great GAME, meant to be comftrable for everyone to play. I know that this issue of controller not being equal to keyboard and mouse has come up before. It will likly continue to come up again and again. Until one day some company out there is going to take the nessisary steps in reducing mouse and keyboard to make them equal to controller. That company's game is going to be very popular with many pleased and loyal fans from both console players and PC players who have gotten used to the feal of the equal controls. Many people are going to look at that game and say HEY!! that was what CCP was trying to do with EVE, DUST and cross platform gaming. How come it did not work? What happend to EVE LEGION? OH! greedy PC gamers would not adapet because they where worried they would not be considered the most compeditive first person shooter. What ? How does making controls equal for all players make the game less competitive? CCP should work to unify equal controls for mouse/keyboard and controller now befor it is to late and some other game out there does it and profits from it.

Thats why, idk, PC is said to have superior methods of control?

Any $20-30 mouse can play games on PC with the same performance. I have no complaits on my Logitech MX500 I have, for, idk, 10 years now? Maybe more. Its a mouse released in 2001.

Razer, and all these expensive / gamey looking mouse is just stuff for kids spend their money on. They are good, yes, but they wont make you game better in any sensible way.

Being confortable with your controls is way more important.

No need for aim assist. You should be able to use a controller and customize the buttons however you like but even with AA you're still probably going to get stomped. Nerfing the KBM to make the few players who actually want to use a controller in a PC game happy doesn't make sense.

This is a PC game not console. Use the KBM. If you've already got a PC that will be able to run this game, you should already be familiar with the KBM.

SORRY !!! not gonna happen pal !!! NOT GONA USE KBM. How many times to people need to ***** !! WE WANT TO SIT ON THE FREAKING SOFA AND DRINK A FREAKING BEER USING A CONTROLLER !!! IF CCP where smart and they wanted to attract new players then they should accommodate people that want to use controllers and make sure they are equally matched like battlefield 4 has.

Legion will be a PC game, thus the controller should be secondary (in terms of development time) to the mouse and keyboard.

In other words, do what you want to make the controller viable except: nerfing KB/Mouse, adding AA.

Yes I believe that in order for LEGION to become a popular game it must have controller support with aim assist.

Yes I believe that in order for LEGION to become a popular game it must have controller support with aim assist.

There is no "Balancing" of input devices.

You make every input device as configurable as possible, and that's it.

Thats why, idk, PC is said to have superior methods of control?

Any $20-30 mouse can play games on PC with the same performance. I have no complaits on my Logitech MX500 I have, for, idk, 10 years now? Maybe more. Its a mouse released in 2001.

Razer, and all these expensive / gamey looking mouse is just stuff for kids spend their money on. They are good, yes, but they wont make you game better in any sensible way.

Being confortable with your controls is way more important.

Have you ever had a good gaming mouse that has come out in the last 5 years? They are pretty good if you program them right. I used one of those before, and it doesn't compare tbh......

Have you ever had a good gaming mouse that has come out in the last 5 years? They are pretty good if you program them right. I used one of those before, and it doesn't compare tbh......

I have never heard of anyone playing first person shooters with a controller on a PC.

I have never heard of anyone playing first person shooters with a controller on a PC.

Plenty of people do it. Sometimes it just personal preference.

Everyone needs to know about the razor deathadder mouse. Apparently they are super sensitive and it appears that dust 514 was designed for this kind of similar equipment. So this is why I can't snipe very well on a controller but can watch a u tube video of someone getting 30 + sniping kills on a PC. Also mouse and keyboard players can sprint, move and shoot all at the same time and controller players can not press R3 and move as easily or shoot as easily. This is the same on all the controller settings. When LEGION is released I hope that the mouse and keyboard settings will be balanced and more equal to the controller settings or vice versa. Don't forget that there must be a reason that you came to consoles in the first place, more players! Now give us a fare chance. No one likes to play with cheaters! The majority of console players that switch to PC will still want to use controllers and they should be equal to keyboard and mouse. Console players don't want to play the game hunched over, staring at a computer screen on a swivel chair. We want to play it laying on the sofa with a beer in hand, staring at the big home theater screen.

From what I here the game battlefield 4 accomplishes this very nicely. There are KBM and aim assist controller players that can compete against each other very effectively. Gamers have tested this and found there to be equal competitive controls with KBM and aim assist controller. Question ? why are keyboard and mouse players so afraid of this ? Do you really need an advantage over other players in order to feel you are good at the game? Do you really want to prevent disabled people from being able to play competitively. Do you really want to prevent people every where from enjoying the game comfortably. Than you really must want to play the game amongst your selves. Then you can be the frikin MAN, in game with far less than 9000 players and a whole crap load of ALTS.

How do you expect PS3 players to transfer to LEGION ? I guess you don't care if they do than do you ? Ask your self this question, what happens if LEGION launches and it has no players that are interested in it ? How long do you think it will take CCP to realize they need something new again and again and again. You PC players wonder why you cant have a great vastly popular community like Halo and COD. Its because most of you are so stubborn you will not even allow for the future development of the game. All sorts of new input devices are being developed all the time. Something tells me that in the end you will all be coming back to dust.

How do you expect PS3 players to transfer to LEGION ? I guess you don't care if they do than do you ? Ask your self this question, what happens if LEGION launches and it has no players that are interested in it ? How long do you think it will take CCP to realize they need something new again and again and again. You PC players wonder why you cant have a great vastly popular community like Halo and COD. Its because most of you are so stubborn you will not even allow for the future development of the game. All sorts of new input devices are being developed all the time. Something tells me that in the end you will all be coming back to dust.

Are you suggesting console players are disabled?

Some disabled people would prefer to use a controller in bed or on the sofa instead of using a KB/M at a desk.