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Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:10:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone needs to know about the razor deathadder mouse. Apparently they are super sensitive and it appears that dust 514 was designed for this kind of similar equipment. So this is why I can't snipe very well on a controller but can watch a u tube video of someone getting 30 + sniping kills on a PC. Also mouse and keyboard players can sprint, move and shoot all at the same time and controller players can not press R3 and move as easily or shoot as easily. This is the same on all the controller settings. When LEGION is released I hope that the mouse and keyboard settings will be balanced and more equal to the controller settings or vice versa. Don't forget that there must be a reason that you came to consoles in the first place, more players! Now give us a fare chance. No one likes to play with cheaters! The majority of console players that switch to PC will still want to use controllers and they should be equal to keyboard and mouse. No one wants to play the game hunched over, staring at a computer screen on a swivel chair
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:36:00 - [2] - Quote Not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you admitting that keyboard and mouse players do have a tremendous advantage and just saying the deathadder mouse is not that great. I believe that all controller players have realized by now how much of a disadvantage they have been in dust 514. I hope this does not continue into LEGION
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:43:00 - [3] - Quote It does not matter what gets NERFED or BUFFED as long as they both have equal capabilities. We are not talking about in game weapons or something.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:46:00 - [4] - Quote Sensitivity on the mouse is far far superior. Controls on the keyboard simply allow you to do more. IE. sprint, strife and shoot at the same time.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:56:00 - [5] - Quote John Psi wrote: Universal Decimator wrote: Sensitivity on the mouse is far far superior. Controls on the keyboard simply allow you to do more. IE. sprint, strife and shoot at the same time. Yes. So, u PC mouse-equipped? I am a PS3 player but I have exparienced the game on PC through friends. Once you get used to mouse and keyboard, it is far superior. Strifeing is actually much faster as well.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:03:00 - [6] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Universal Decimator wrote: Not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you admitting that keyboard and mouse players do have a tremendous advantage and just saying the deathadder mouse is not that great. I believe that all controller players have realized by now how much of a disadvantage they have been in dust 514. I hope this does not continue into LEGION The attempt to balance by nerfing the mouse/kb will not continue, if that's what you mean. Being on the PC means a lot of things - one of them is that the mouse and KB controls need to be sharp and clean. They need to be the priority for development. I have thought about purchasing a better PC for this game. But even I will not be able to purchase a $36,000.00 60" TN panell monitor. I would rather play the game in my living room on my 60" LED with a controller.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:08:00 - [7] - Quote John Psi wrote: Universal Decimator wrote: John Psi wrote: Universal Decimator wrote: Sensitivity on the mouse is far far superior. Controls on the keyboard simply allow you to do more. IE. sprint, strife and shoot at the same time. Yes. So, u PC mouse-equipped? I am a PS3 player but I have exparienced the game on PC through friends. Once you get used to mouse and keyboard, it is far superior. Strifeing is actually much faster as well. Excellent, I hope your friends have a mouse. Do not forget to use it. He does not use it that much because even he is getting sick of playing this game by his self. Now is the time to entice some console player to join you on PC. I hope I can see CCP make it happen.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:12:00 - [8] - Quote not with a keyboard and mouse it dont.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:13:00 - [9] - Quote We want to use controllers in the living room not keyboards.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 18:29:00 - [10] - Quote If CCP really wants to bridge things like they say; Muti player platforms and all that, than they may have to consider setting a new standard in fist person shooter game controls. I believe that if they attempt to do this than it can become very popular. Other competitive shooter games will be extremely jealous of the way large numbers console and PC gammers can play together through CCP games.

Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 20:34:00 - [11] - Quote I know that there are many of you guys out there on PC using keyboard and mouse. You like to imagian that these are the best controls in the world right? The kind of controls the millitary uses to control drones and stuff. You are the most talented war gamer in the world right? WRONG!!! The millitary has far far advanced since the days of the invention of the mouse. There are things like leap motion control, used with your hands and eye piece controls that track the movement of your eye ball. The millitary has stuff so advanced and better than the mouse that they will not even tell you about it. It is time to except EVE for what it is; a great GAME, meant to be comftrable for everyone to play. I know that this issue of controller not being equal to keyboard and mouse has come up before. It will likly continue to come up again and again. Until one day some company out there is going to take the nessisary steps in reducing mouse and keyboard to make them equal to controller. That company's game is going to be very popular with many pleased and loyal fans from both console players and PC players who have gotten used to the feal of the equal controls. Many people are going to look at that game and say HEY!! that was what CCP was trying to do with EVE, DUST and cross platform gaming. How come it did not work? What happend to EVE LEGION? OH! greedy PC gamers would not adapet because they where worried they would not be considered the most compeditive first person shooter. What ? How does making controls equal for all players make the game less competitive? CCP should work to unify equal controls for mouse/keyboard and controller now befor it is to late and some other game out there does it and profits from it.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.12 20:35:00 - [12] - Quote bad spelling sorry typed fast
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.14 03:35:00 - [13] - Quote OK I think I understand now. Controller will be some what equal to mouse and keyboard if there is aim assist for controllers, like there is in Battlefield 4.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.14 03:37:00 - [14] - Quote I do not believe there was any aim assist for console players who used controllers in dust 514, I hope there will be aim assist for controllers in LEGION.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.14 03:49:00 - [15] - Quote Also I would like to see a few more controller configurations in the option menu. Specifically one that puts the sprint button away from R3 and L3 and the motion funtions. This way controller players can sprint, move, strife and shoot simultaneously better.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.14 04:48:00 - [16] - Quote McFurious wrote: No need for aim assist. You should be able to use a controller and customize the buttons however you like but even with AA you're still probably going to get stomped. Nerfing the KBM to make the few players who actually want to use a controller in a PC game happy doesn't make sense. This is a PC game not console. Use the KBM. If you've already got a PC that will be able to run this game, you should already be familiar with the KBM. SORRY !!! not gonna happen pal !!! NOT GONA USE KBM. How many times to people need to ***** !! WE WANT TO SIT ON THE FREAKING SOFA AND DRINK A FREAKING BEER USING A CONTROLLER !!! IF CCP where smart and they wanted to attract new players then they should accommodate people that want to use controllers and make sure they are equally matched like battlefield 4 has.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.14 14:36:00 - [17] - Quote Yes I believe that in order for LEGION to become a popular game it must have controller support with aim assist.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.14 15:01:00 - [18] - Quote From what I here the game battlefield 4 accomplishes this very nicely. There are KBM and aim assist controller players that can compete against each other very effectively. Gamers have tested this and found there to be equal competitive controls with KBM and aim assist controller. Question ? why are keyboard and mouse players so afraid of this ? Do you really need an advantage over other players in order to feel you are good at the game? Do you really want to prevent disabled people from being able to play competitively. Do you really want to prevent people every where from enjoying the game comfortably. Than you really must want to play the game amongst your selves. Then the can be the frikin MAN, in game with far less than 9000 players and a hole crap load of ALTS.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:35:00 - [19] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: I have never heard of anyone playing first person shooters with a controller on a PC. How do you expect PS3 players to transfer to LEGION ? I guess you don't care if they do than do you ? Ask your self this question, what happens if LEGION launches and it has no players that are interested in it ? How long do you think it will take CCP to realize they need something new again and again and again. You PC players wonder why you cant have a great vastly popular community like Halo and COD. Its because most of you are so stubborn you will not even allow for the future development of the game. All sorts of new input devices are being developed all the time. Something tells me that in the end you will all be coming back to dust.
Universal Decimator Interstellar Legionnaires 42	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:44:00 - [20] - Quote Phoenix 85 wrote: Universal Decimator wrote: From what I here the game battlefield 4 accomplishes this very nicely. There are KBM and aim assist controller players that can compete against each other very effectively. Gamers have tested this and found there to be equal competitive controls with KBM and aim assist controller. Question ? why are keyboard and mouse players so afraid of this ? Do you really need an advantage over other players in order to feel you are good at the game? Do you really want to prevent disabled people from being able to play competitively. Do you really want to prevent people every where from enjoying the game comfortably. Than you really must want to play the game amongst your selves. Then you can be the frikin MAN, in game with far less than 9000 players and a whole crap load of ALTS. Are you suggesting console players are disabled? Some disabled people would prefer to use a controller in bed or on the sofa instead of using a KB/M at a desk.

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