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Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.05.09 21:50:00 - [1] - Quote I know allot of people that play Dust 514 are now abandoning the game as they don't believe they will be able to play EVE Legion, for all you people that are panicking & deleting your char's I have a few very nice & helpful video's for you, I sincerely hope this helps & I hope to see you all in Legion, until then, Happy Hunting ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiS9LC6X55Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpSaOJJIun8 (also side note personally my fave controller for using on the PC https://www.onlive.co.uk/accessories)
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 570	Posted - 2014.05.09 21:54:00 - [2] - Quote the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care
Rahl Draak Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2014.05.09 21:56:00 - [3] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care Did you guys hear the news? They are ending Dust on console, and moving it, chars, assets, and SP over to the same game, except on PC! Spread the word!
Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.05.09 21:58:00 - [4] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :(
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 259	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:03:00 - [5] - Quote It may be news, but that doesn't change that alot of Dust's players played because it was on a console, with voice chat, and had a robust skill system that allowed them to play their machinegun preachers however they wanted. Now that Dust's days are numbered (though for how long isn't known yet) in favor of a PC port they are losing alot of the comfort that came with a console game. Believe me, sitting in an office chair for hours on end, not comfortable at all. Sure, most PCs can now be plugged into TVs but then you have the issue of having to get up off the couch to go tweak the PC if it should ever have a problem, which can be often depending on the age of the PC and the length of time between maintenance reformats (my tech friend told me once that if you don't reformat a PC every couple years you're doing it more harm than good). Heck, most PC users don't even reformat if something goes wrong, much less doing it as a matter of basic care.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 570	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:04:00 - [6] - Quote we just dont want to , pc games are full of hackers and cheaters, pc's need third party software to work and its just to much of a hassle we dont want to deal with
Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 11	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:07:00 - [7] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: It may be news, but that doesn't change that alot of Dust's players played because it was on a console, with voice chat, and had a robust skill system that allowed them to play their machinegun preachers however they wanted. Now that Dust's days are numbered (though for how long isn't known yet) in favor of a PC port they are losing alot of the comfort that came with a console game. Believe me, sitting in an office chair for hours on end, not comfortable at all. Sure, most PCs can now be plugged into TVs but then you have the issue of having to get up off the couch to go tweak the PC if it should ever have a problem, which can be often depending on the age of the PC and the length of time between maintenance reformats (my tech friend told me once that if you don't reformat a PC every couple years you're doing it more harm than good). Heck, most PC users don't even reformat if something goes wrong, much less doing it as a matter of basic care. all I know is with a gaming rig like the one in the Gamespot video I would happily get myself a wireless keyboard & mouse & my good old PS3 controller, have the PC tucked away behind my TV & badabing badabomb Im sat on the couch relaxed & enjoying my games
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2971	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:07:00 - [8] - Quote Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Obsolete faster since some PC devs go full hog on the shiny things and not the things that matter The prevalence of cheating PC players compared to cheating console players especially in the FPS genre Your self righteous attitude acting like you are doing people a favor by condescending to them by saying "look its so easy even console monkeys can do it" And Im saying all this as a person thats been PC gaming since the 90s, the platform has its benefits and great games but also has plenty of devs who dont know what the hell they are doing and I think CCP falls into that category so acting like a simple platform switch will make everything better is naive at best
Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 11	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:08:00 - [9] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: we just dont want to , pc games are full of hackers and cheaters, pc's need third party software to work and its just to much of a hassle we dont want to deal with considering most games on PC now come WITH anti cheat software installed as part of the package then the amount of cheaters you get on PC these days on popular games like even COD are about the same as on consoles
Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 11	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:10:00 - [10] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Obsolete faster since some PC devs go full hog on the shiny things and not the things that matter The prevalence of cheating PC players compared to cheating console players especially in the FPS genre Your self righteous attitude acting like you are doing people a favor by condescending to them by saying "look its so easy even console monkeys can do it" And Im saying all this as a person thats been PC gaming since the 90s, the platform has its benefits and great games but also has plenty of devs who dont know what the hell they are doing and I think CCP falls into that category so acting like a simple platform switch will make everything better is naive at best please refer to my last post on the cheatting, as for having a self richous attitude ? well if you all dont want my help then fine I dont care anymore, I wont be replying to this thread anymore, I bet your all not even watching the video's anyway, seriously you try to help people & all you get is trolled, I dont know why I even care

Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2972	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:17:00 - [11] - Quote Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Obsolete faster since some PC devs go full hog on the shiny things and not the things that matter The prevalence of cheating PC players compared to cheating console players especially in the FPS genre Your self righteous attitude acting like you are doing people a favor by condescending to them by saying "look its so easy even console monkeys can do it" And Im saying all this as a person thats been PC gaming since the 90s, the platform has its benefits and great games but also has plenty of devs who dont know what the hell they are doing and I think CCP falls into that category so acting like a simple platform switch will make everything better is naive at best please refer to my last post on the cheatting, as for having a self richous attitude ? well if you all dont want my help then fine I dont care anymore, I wont be replying to this thread anymore, I bet your all not even watching the video's anyway, seriously you try to help people & all you get is trolled, I dont know why I even care Your last post on cheating ignores the fact that those counter measures are easily gotten around, thats why I personally try competitive games on private servers and with people I know whenever possible on a PC, it cuts down on the BS youll encounter And if "Im just trying to help but you guys are just mean so Im taking my ball and going home" isnt self righteous then I dont know what is
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2305	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:17:00 - [12] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care You speak for everyone do you? All console players want to live in ignorance as you do? I find that hard to believe.
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 260	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:26:00 - [13] - Quote Speaking for myself I have a reasonably decent gaming laptop (Asus G53SX) but I'm not sure how well it's going to be able to handle Eve: Legion. We don't have any specs yet. Further, I like to take my PC games on the go so a gaming rig isn't something I feel like lugging around. So I'm left with few options that are cheap should the minimum specs be too high for my laptop. And that's the problem people have with making a gaming rig. How good should it be? Can we build it to PS4 specs or should we aim higher? How high should we aim? How expensive is that going to be? We just don't know yet. And unlike some people, many of us don't have unlimited familial coffers from which to draw.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 571	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:26:00 - [14] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care You speak for everyone do you? All console players want to live in ignorance as you do? I find that hard to believe. is that all you have to say? console gamers ignorant this , console gamers ignorant that, WE DONT WANT TO BUY PC's IF WE DID WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE ONE AND NOT BE PLAYING OUR CONSOLES
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2306	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:28:00 - [15] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: Speaking for myself I have a reasonably decent gaming laptop (Asus G53SX) but I'm not sure how well it's going to be able to handle Eve: Legion. We don't have any specs yet. Further, I like to take my PC games on the go so a gaming rig isn't something I feel like lugging around. So I'm left with few options that are cheap should the minimum specs be too high for my laptop. And that's the problem people have with making a gaming rig. How good should it be? Can we build it to PS4 specs or should we aim higher? How high should we aim? How expensive is that going to be? We just don't know yet. And unlike some people, many of us don't have unlimited familial coffers from which to draw. This is pretty easy to resolve though. If you want your gaming rig to run games as well as the PS4 would, build a gaming rig with similar specs. If you want better, aim higher (at least you have that option) If you can get by with less capability, then get a cheaper PC (again, at least you have that option)
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2306	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:29:00 - [16] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care You speak for everyone do you? All console players want to live in ignorance as you do? I find that hard to believe. is that all you have to say? console gamers ignorant this , console gamers ignorant that, WE DONT WANT TO BUY PC's IF WE DID WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE ONE AND NOT BE PLAYING OUR CONSOLES No, no I don't think so.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 8246	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:32:00 - [17] - Quote I'd use MotionJoy's DS3 tool if I were you. It works amazingly well with emulation. Especially Dolphin and PCSX2. CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514 -HAND
ISuperstar DIOS X. II 277	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:43:00 - [18] - Quote You seem like a nice person. If you really want to help me out what about you fund me the 1000$ to build a PC, that way I can enjoy Legion with the rest of the PC Elitists! Still Not Banned, Never Will Be, I Own CCP And This Forum Is My Personal Toilet.
Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 11	Posted - 2014.05.09 22:57:00 - [19] - Quote ISuperstar wrote: You seem like a nice person. If you really want to help me out what about you fund me the 1000$ to build a PC, that way I can enjoy Legion with the rest of the PC Elitists! http://www.gamespot.com/videos/intel-nvidia-how-to-build-a-gaming-pc-on-a-console/2300-6418423/ PLEASE watch this, its so not $1000 T_T
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 508	Posted - 2014.05.09 23:17:00 - [20] - Quote Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!" The Space Hippie

Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 15	Posted - 2014.05.09 23:26:00 - [21] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O well technically they could be accessing this website through there consoles, BUT from my own personal experience the browsers on the PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 & Xbox One all really badly suck, they are only slightly worth calling a browser if you use a mouse & keyboard & even then if you can afford a console why haven't you at least got a laptop, I currently have a Samsung laptop & it does great for browsing & watching movies.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 8258	Posted - 2014.05.10 02:07:00 - [22] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O I believe so. Though it is possible to access the forums from the PS3. However to do so you'd need to stomach the garbage known as the PS3 Web Browser. CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514 -HAND
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 417	Posted - 2014.05.10 02:10:00 - [23] - Quote Atiim wrote: Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O I believe so. Though it is possible to access the forums from the PS3. However to do so you'd need to stomach the garbage known as the PS3 Web Browser. Work computer by day, tablet by night!
Void Echo Total Extinction 2572	Posted - 2014.05.10 02:58:00 - [24] - Quote the reason some of us are pissed off about this is a very specific reason. I remember CCP saying that they were "Lazer Focused" on the production on the PS3 side, they promised us Dust 514 would always be on the playstation 3, a console, they never said anything about abandoning what they promised us and going to a completely different platform. If you want to help out, then start by petitioning for a ps4 version of Legion so that we can retain the less than 1% of respect we have left for CCP. If we wanted to play PC FPS games, we wouldn't be playing Dust 514, we wouldn't even be here, we wouldv already been on the PC for years now. Get over yourself and stop trying to convert us. Closed Beta Vet. Playstation 4 or nothing CCP. Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 509	Posted - 2014.05.13 02:34:00 - [25] - Quote I don't believe in "converting" anyone to PC, and I respect everyone's platform choices. What I believe is that we need the development of a solid game before it's launched to a console. Watching the "DUST 514: Graphics" keynote you can see that the level of development is setting a high bar. They want to create a scalable design that could be ported to a console, but initial design in a PC would be more beneficial to them. When they have things nailed down, that's the time to talk migration. We don't want another failing launch like the PS3. If that means we have to wait for a playable game first, then see it moved over so be it. CCP was "laser focused" on a console shooter in the beginning of the cycle but the scope of the game changed through their, and our, ambitions. We want a game that can't be adequately brought to the PS3 and so the plan had to change. I will push for a PS4 port when the time comes that it can be appropriately moved over with either no, or at least minimal, loss of playability. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!" The Space Hippie
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1453	Posted - 2014.05.13 02:41:00 - [26] - Quote Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: we just dont want to , pc games are full of hackers and cheaters, pc's need third party software to work and its just to much of a hassle we dont want to deal with considering most games on PC now come WITH anti cheat software installed as part of the package then the amount of cheaters you get on PC these days on popular games like even COD are about the same as on consoles Give me 5 minutes with google, and I can get around any game's security. You think PC players don't cheat? then why do they need anti-cheat software? EDIT: I access the internet through my 2006 macbook, with voided warranty. and my vita. CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 509	Posted - 2014.05.13 02:45:00 - [27] - Quote PC or console... If you build it, someone will hack it Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!" The Space Hippie
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 2880	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:05:00 - [28] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: I don't believe in "converting" anyone to PC, and I respect everyone's platform choices. What I believe is that we need the development of a solid game before it's launched to a console. Watching the "DUST 514: Graphics" keynote you can see that the level of development is setting a high bar. They want to create a scalable design that could be ported to a console, but initial design in a PC would be more beneficial to them. When they have things nailed down, that's the time to talk migration. I actually don't understand this choice too. It's just...stupid. Considering that ps4 specs are and will always be the same, and considering they "want" to port it to ps4, it would make more sense to start from the hard thing, the one which might actually needs optimizations and give full power to PC later. A scalable design will only complicate things much more. Actually, the whole Eve Legion thing complicates everything much more. I really, just can't get it. Rebranding Dust: I understand and endorse. Changing the skill system and the market system: I Understand and endorse. Move forward to the next gen: I Understand and endorse. Sony proved that MMOs on PS4 are doable and does have success, why should they move on a uber-inflactioned platform like a PC, challenging directly with at least other 31 free to play MMOFPS and even with Eve itself. Ipse Dixit Guinea Dust Bunnies are watching you, CCP Rouge.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 962	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:05:00 - [29] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O Awesome. I can spend 150$ more to get a PC that is almost as good as my PS4.
I HateMyFace WarRavens Final Resolution. 116	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:07:00 - [30] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O Phones Or through ps3 browser I suppose. But phones I.Y.A.A.Y.A.S

knight of 6 SVER True Blood 1942	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:17:00 - [31] - Quote I'm not a fan of PC gaming especially competitively. i do indy and ratting in eve. will I build a PC for legion? NO! I don't care if it's easier than lego bricks being tossed against people who have plain old flat out better set up sucks balls. everyone is even (provided you have a good ISP) on console that's why I have one. my gif is gone, DINKLEBURG!! Ko6, scout
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 526	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:23:00 - [32] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O LOL the console has a web browser dude The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1080	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:25:00 - [33] - Quote I feel posts like this are unnecessary; Legion will undoubtedly be ported over to the PS4 eventually. Atiim wrote: Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O I believe so. Though it is possible to access the forums from the PS3. However to do so you'd need to stomach the garbage known as the PS3 Web Browser. When ever I tried it wouldn't let me log in. Can't say I'm all that surprised.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 668	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:26:00 - [34] - Quote Rahl Draak wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care Did you guys hear the news? They are ending Dust on console, and moving it, chars, assets, and SP over to the same game, except on PC! Spread the word! You are making a really big assumption there. They MIGHT move characters to legion. Right now they have said the skill trees are incompatible.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 668	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:31:00 - [35] - Quote I HateMyFace wrote: Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O Phones Or through ps3 browser I suppose. PC maybe. Tablet maybe. But phones A pc capable of running a web browser is not hard to find. A pc to run decent games costs a bit more. Heck I still have a lonevo x21 laptop that was built in 2001 it can post to these forums just fine. However it can't run any remotely modern games. Come to think of it i actually have a pc with even less computing power. I have a intel atom micro itx build that i use at home as a jump box / FTP server and a few other function. Again it can totally run a web browser but games o hell no.
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 21	Posted - 2014.05.13 03:44:00 - [36] - Quote I have a great gaming PC. I do not need nor want your lame attempts regarding console owners. Nor does any other, your methods are simplistic trolls. I will not play Legion. We don't know their payment solution but we have specific and painful experience with the methods that CCP uses. They do not fix bugs, even when they are in the basis for their 'new' game. They promote one while doing nothing for the game that is the foundation for it. Bugs are not fixed because at least half the development team is doing Legion. Better to work on the new game versus the dead one. I doubt if it will be F2P, it might well take PLEX to use as that is CCP's subscription solution. I tried EVE a few times and it was possibly one of the worst, most boring games I have even seen. There have been worse but very, very few. It never really improved beyond a space ship interface to a point and click spreadsheet of a game. It is perfect for nerds, sucks for gamers. I will never allow any CCP product to run on another gaming system of mine. Much less a PC. CCP taught me how they treat their customers and I will never forget it. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1665	Posted - 2014.05.13 04:10:00 - [37] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O I'm on a PC, it isn't up to specs to run Star Citizen, the only PC game I have interest in. Eve: Legion will suck because CCP Shanghai sucks at building games. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Phoenix 85 Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 92	Posted - 2014.05.13 04:16:00 - [38] - Quote ITT: Console peasants try to justify inferior hardware. Face it, PC is the way to go. http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Sony-Removes-Watch-Dogs-1080p-60fps-Claim-From-PS4-Description-64040.html Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 135	Posted - 2014.05.13 04:42:00 - [39] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Your last post on cheating ignores the fact that those counter measures are easily gotten around, thats why I personally try competitive games on private servers and with people I know whenever possible on a PC, it cuts down on the BS youll encounter This is the truth I use to be a PC gamer as well the hackers cheaters exploiters aimbots god mode having players just run rampant. Not only is cheating a problem but malware spyware and other virus run a everywhere on PC. Every time I turn my PC on some troll ad says I need to do a virus scan. Pc's are high maintenance I can buy a ps3/ps4 plug in 2 cables turn my tv on and I'm gaming. I left PC gaming alone when I started to realize Free 2 Play and Micro transactions were the only viable games the games you pay for were on consoles with less hackers and hassle.
Phoenix 85 Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 92	Posted - 2014.05.13 04:49:00 - [40] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Your last post on cheating ignores the fact that those counter measures are easily gotten around, thats why I personally try competitive games on private servers and with people I know whenever possible on a PC, it cuts down on the BS youll encounter This is the truth I use to be a PC gamer as well the hackers cheaters exploiters aimbots god mode having players just run rampant. Not only is cheating a problem but malware spyware and other virus run a everywhere on PC. Every time I turn my PC on some troll ad says I need to do a virus scan. Pc's are high maintenance I can buy a ps3/ps4 plug in 2 cables turn my tv on and I'm gaming. I left PC gaming alone when I started to realize Free 2 Play and Micro transactions were the only viable games the games you pay for were on consoles with less hackers and hassle. Quit looking at ****/pirating stuff off pirate bay, and you wont have to worry about viruses. Cheating wont be an issue in Legion, noone is gonna risk cheating on a character cause they will lose everything. With consoles, you end up paying more. 400$ system that youre locked into, pay 50$ a year to access something you already pay your ISP for, and then each game is 60$ a pop, most of which goes to support gamegestapo. It is true, consoles do get some exclusives, but none of them are worth playing in toned down graphics that look awful, and still only at 30fps. See signature EDUCATE YOURSELF

Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 135	Posted - 2014.05.13 05:01:00 - [41] - Quote Phoenix 85 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Your last post on cheating ignores the fact that those counter measures are easily gotten around, thats why I personally try competitive games on private servers and with people I know whenever possible on a PC, it cuts down on the BS youll encounter This is the truth I use to be a PC gamer as well the hackers cheaters exploiters aimbots god mode having players just run rampant. Not only is cheating a problem but malware spyware and other virus run a everywhere on PC. Every time I turn my PC on some troll ad says I need to do a virus scan. Pc's are high maintenance I can buy a ps3/ps4 plug in 2 cables turn my tv on and I'm gaming. I left PC gaming alone when I started to realize Free 2 Play and Micro transactions were the only viable games the games you pay for were on consoles with less hackers and hassle. Quit looking at **/pirating stuff off pirate bay, and you wont have to worry about viruses. Cheating wont be an issue in Legion, noone is gonna risk cheating on a character cause they will lose everything. With consoles, you end up paying more. 400$ system that youre locked into, pay 50$ a year to access something you already pay your ISP for, and then each game is 60$ a pop, most of which goes to support gamegestapo. It is true, consoles do get some exclusives, but none of them are worth playing in toned down graphics that look awful, and still only at 30fps. See signature My friend brought a brand new PC a dell 1 week later she was completely locked out of her computer and a guy had called her cellphone and told her to pay up 500 dollars and he would give her control of her pc back. She threw her computer in the trash. Its not ** its not pirate bay its just PCs are vulnerable. FB can get you screwed Yahoo too pretty much anything that holds your sensitive information is up for grabs. Back to gaming though while $60 is pricey and I would have more games if games were cheaper I've become very comfortable with buying a few games a year. For instance if i still had my rig id be playing Battlefield and some F2P mmorpgs and that's it. The games that I like are not on PC I'd still want my console it got to a point were my PC was just taking up space so I sold it to some old guy in jersey so he could use it to play EVE ONLINE true story. Side note find me a decent Anti virus because Comcast gave me Nortan thats crap Windows Defender is garbage and AVG doesn't do squat. I just trashed my Laptop because I got sick of it reformatted my HD and put it in my ps3.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 634	Posted - 2014.05.13 05:14:00 - [42] - Quote CCP said they were laser focused on the PS3. THAT OBVIOUSLY CHANGED - so I understand peoples confusion and sadness. Why would going to the PS4 be any better than the PC? As a PS3 owner it would require you spending extra cash on a new computing device of some sort? So really it just comes down to console people being console people. Happy to buy a PS4 but for what ever reason not happy to purchase a PC (or MAC if that is your thing). That's FINE! I know some console people just want to chill, dont take games too seriously..blah blah many other reasons.. etc... So I dont understand the moaning about Legion coming to PC. They never mentioned it going to the PS4 either. Edit - Actually, I just read that post above me and I think I understand. People are just to ******* stupid these days.... they want their hand held.
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 135	Posted - 2014.05.13 05:21:00 - [43] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: CCP said they were laser focused on the PS3. THAT OBVIOUSLY CHANGED - so I understand peoples confusion and sadness. Why would going to the PS4 be any better than the PC? As a PS3 owner it would require you spending extra cash on a new computing device of some sort? So really it just comes down to console people being console people. Happy to buy a PS4 but for what ever reason not happy to purchase a PC (or MAC if that is your thing). That's FINE! I know some console people just want to chill, dont take games too seriously..blah blah many other reasons.. etc... So I dont understand the moaning about Legion coming to PC. They never mentioned it going to the PS4 either. Edit - Actually, I just read that post above me and I think I understand. People are just to ******* stupid these days.... they want their hand held. Right people are stupid, because people who are stupid hack pc games, because the devs who are people weren't smarter than the stupid people who hacked their game. Its all clear now obviously avoiding the hassle of hackers and cheaters means you're stupid and need your hand held. I must be an alien because I decided to do the smart thing which is whatever satisfies me.
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2014.05.13 05:23:00 - [44] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: CCP said they were laser focused on the PS3. THAT OBVIOUSLY CHANGED - so I understand peoples confusion and sadness. Why would going to the PS4 be any better than the PC? As a PS3 owner it would require you spending extra cash on a new computing device of some sort? So really it just comes down to console people being console people. Happy to buy a PS4 but for what ever reason not happy to purchase a PC (or MAC if that is your thing). That's FINE! I know some console people just want to chill, dont take games too seriously..blah blah many other reasons.. etc... So I dont understand the moaning about Legion coming to PC. They never mentioned it going to the PS4 either. Edit - Actually, I just read that post above me and I think I understand. People are just to ******* stupid these days.... they want their hand held. "Horrible with public relations" and not caring about a segment of the playerbase they initially supported and are now dumping and that's where some of the moaning is. I have a gaming rig and I won't play EvE: Legion for these reasons: - your console players are a different species of players than your pc players and console players tend to offer the more competition playing against in Dust - it's not that it's on a PC that matters, it's how they handle a situation and what I can expect from them - like the above point, if they couldn't get the console version working and polished, does starting from the drawing board make it a smart decision since most developers learn from their mistakes and not from a mistake atop a mistake on top of another - it's not about content and items it's about updates, fixes and mechanics and they can't seem to deliver that even in Dust so what hopes do I have in Legion; did they have a magic wand to make this stuff work because there aren't many games they could reference for input only Dust and that's not really a great source of inspiration - IF they transplant Dust to Legion then you somehow ignore how to contain a protostomping game that will, in turn limit new players staying with the game on top of the playerbase who will forever leave the game - if you think about the above point of taking your playerbase, dividing it and then finding a way to limit its growth ensuring you won't recover your playerbase from one month ago for sometime, then I'm also worried about the "brains" running this operation now For some players, like myself, it's not about console versus PC, players versus CCP or whatever. It's really a point of validation where if we're asked do we think CCP is hitting and making the right moves the answer is "no" and I'd even add that if you think that they have the whole WoD hanging over them and be more careful and strict about blundering in general then I was utterly surprised by how badly they handled Legion and that's where we now stand: can CCP handle this? If they can't even handle something as simple not pissing on a good portion of players on the console for the sake of having something shiny to show at fanfest then we have a really really big problem with CCP. Gaming rig or console, your stuck with a development team out to try ideas on an uintested game and unwilling to see if they are even feasible in the first place because they are brimming with enough egotistic confidence that they always know better...
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4570	Posted - 2014.05.13 12:18:00 - [45] - Quote Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Because there's a "setup" to begin with. You buy a console, you plug in the wires, and you're ready to go. You don't have to worry if you got the right graphics card, or the right kind of processor, installed the right software, etc etc. All this is a ballache that needn't have existed in the first place. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 155	Posted - 2014.05.13 12:35:00 - [46] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care This says everything we need to know about console players right here. Forget them. Let's move on. EVE players as well as my own assumptions were right about the can of worms CCP was opening up. P.S. Who doesn't own a decent computer in this day and age? What, are these people living in 1985? The age of Atari is dead bro. Only 10 year olds would be restricted to consoles. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1077	Posted - 2014.05.13 12:50:00 - [47] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care This says everything we need to know about console players right here. Forget them. Let's move on. EVE players as well as my own assumptions were right about the can of worms CCP was opening up. P.S. Who doesn't own a decent computer in this day and age? What, are these people living in 1985? The age of Atari is dead bro. Only 10 year olds would be restricted to consoles. Why do I need a computer? Yea, right now I'm using my work one, but, I use a f*cking tablet for literally everything else... What year is it, 2002, we have to have a computer to do anything now??? I 'support' EVE:Legion. Since the PS4 is just a dream, make it easy to sell our characters and our Beta access...
Laurent Cazaderon What The French Red Whines. 2292	Posted - 2014.05.13 13:05:00 - [48] - Quote Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Even if you could build the exact same PC as a PS4, the way it is used is VERY different. It's not for the same type of people. Console is what it is : a rather pretty box (ps4 at least), in your living room with a controller right by it, that you just poke and start playing with, not moving an inch from your couch. You dont have to wonder about specs, drivers, nor teamspeak or other chat. Nor do you ever have to wonder if the guy facing you is cheating\scripting\having a better machine and thus having an advantage etc... It is just NOT the same thing. I played on my PC when i was 15 to 22 and followed the gear market etc... Now ? i dont have a room where i can have a desk with a computer, nor do i have the time or envy to bug myself with PC gaming. My PC is a laptop, it plays movies, surf the internet and downloads prons. that's it. So as much as you're trying to help, you're just pissing off people because of all of the above. He, though forbidden by the Codex, was a Precursor. He tried the Replication of Chromosomes. He led to an Uprising
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3841	Posted - 2014.05.13 14:11:00 - [49] - Quote Using Legion as a sole reason to buy a gaming PC is the first thing wrong with this thread. We've all been exposed to CCP's **** game development and shady business practices. Who would invest $500 off the top just to be let down again? Is it worth playing for 10 years while CCP stumbles through game design? Disposable platforms. Disposable games. Tested, trusted game developers and massive populations to compete against. Console, Master Race. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4409	Posted - 2014.05.13 14:46:00 - [50] - Quote Thanks for the vid. I haven't been a PC gamer since my youth. I've been primarily console based. Now with the news (and also the fact I wanted to get into building my own PCs), I'm definitely looking to get back into PC games. Not only for Legion but just for all the games that are out plus their mods. Thanks again! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4409	Posted - 2014.05.13 14:52:00 - [51] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: Phoenix 85 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Your last post on cheating ignores the fact that those counter measures are easily gotten around, thats why I personally try competitive games on private servers and with people I know whenever possible on a PC, it cuts down on the BS youll encounter This is the truth I use to be a PC gamer as well the hackers cheaters exploiters aimbots god mode having players just run rampant. Not only is cheating a problem but malware spyware and other virus run a everywhere on PC. Every time I turn my PC on some troll ad says I need to do a virus scan. Pc's are high maintenance I can buy a ps3/ps4 plug in 2 cables turn my tv on and I'm gaming. I left PC gaming alone when I started to realize Free 2 Play and Micro transactions were the only viable games the games you pay for were on consoles with less hackers and hassle. Quit looking at **/pirating stuff off pirate bay, and you wont have to worry about viruses. Cheating wont be an issue in Legion, noone is gonna risk cheating on a character cause they will lose everything. With consoles, you end up paying more. 400$ system that youre locked into, pay 50$ a year to access something you already pay your ISP for, and then each game is 60$ a pop, most of which goes to support gamegestapo. It is true, consoles do get some exclusives, but none of them are worth playing in toned down graphics that look awful, and still only at 30fps. See signature My friend brought a brand new PC a dell 1 week later she was completely locked out of her computer and a guy had called her cellphone and told her to pay up 500 dollars and he would give her control of her pc back. She threw her computer in the trash. Its not ** its not pirate bay its just PCs are vulnerable. FB can get you screwed Yahoo too pretty much anything that holds your sensitive information is up for grabs. Back to gaming though while $60 is pricey and I would have more games if games were cheaper I've become very comfortable with buying a few games a year. For instance if i still had my rig id be playing Battlefield and some F2P mmorpgs and that's it. The games that I like are not on PC I'd still want my console it got to a point were my PC was just taking up space so I sold it to some old guy in jersey so he could use it to play EVE ONLINE true story. Side note find me a decent Anti virus because Comcast gave me Nortan thats crap Windows Defender is garbage and AVG doesn't do squat. I just trashed my Laptop because I got sick of it reformatted my HD and put it in my ps3. Anything with internet is vulnerable. The PSN was hacked you know. People's info are vulnerable on that too. And I'm pretty sure your friend acted prematurely. With anything, people charge you high for the labor. And especially for a girl and a PC. I would have shopped around you instead of dramatically throwing my week old PC away. That's just stupid. All she had to do was have a backup. Did she have one? I'm building a PC and when I get everything installed, I'm immediately doing a back up. Problems with my PC? Reverting back to backup. Virus? Reverting back to backup. PC requires a bit more care, that's why consoles are so popular. But it isn't like its not doable. You just need to be smart about what you download, where you download from, having the proper anti viral systems in place (F McAfee though), and have a back up ready for any problems. Too often people just get a PC and do whatever with it, then become shocked when its bogged down with viruses and it's acting funny. You have to take care of your PC. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 117	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:25:00 - [52] - Quote Its been years since I had my last problem with viruses. I have been pretty much using the built in Windows Defender and AdAware. From time to time I get a free, more powerfull virus scan and run it, it finds nothing, then uninstall because most anti-viruses are damn intrusive. Just stay out of **** and other illegal activities sites. Use your freedom with responsability. Be somewhat smart (like, no one you dont know will send you nude pictures with .exe extensions). If you cant be that smart, well, dont buy a PC.
Void Echo Total Extinction 2584	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:37:00 - [53] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Phoenix 85 wrote: Ld Collins wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Your last post on cheating ignores the fact that those counter measures are easily gotten around, thats why I personally try competitive games on private servers and with people I know whenever possible on a PC, it cuts down on the BS youll encounter This is the truth I use to be a PC gamer as well the hackers cheaters exploiters aimbots god mode having players just run rampant. Not only is cheating a problem but malware spyware and other virus run a everywhere on PC. Every time I turn my PC on some troll ad says I need to do a virus scan. Pc's are high maintenance I can buy a ps3/ps4 plug in 2 cables turn my tv on and I'm gaming. I left PC gaming alone when I started to realize Free 2 Play and Micro transactions were the only viable games the games you pay for were on consoles with less hackers and hassle. Quit looking at **/pirating stuff off pirate bay, and you wont have to worry about viruses. Cheating wont be an issue in Legion, noone is gonna risk cheating on a character cause they will lose everything. With consoles, you end up paying more. 400$ system that youre locked into, pay 50$ a year to access something you already pay your ISP for, and then each game is 60$ a pop, most of which goes to support gamegestapo. It is true, consoles do get some exclusives, but none of them are worth playing in toned down graphics that look awful, and still only at 30fps. See signature My friend brought a brand new PC a dell 1 week later she was completely locked out of her computer and a guy had called her cellphone and told her to pay up 500 dollars and he would give her control of her pc back. She threw her computer in the trash. Its not its not pirate bay its just PCs are vulnerable. FB can get you screwed Yahoo too pretty much anything that holds your sensitive information is up for grabs. Back to gaming though while $60 is pricey and I would have more games if games were cheaper I've become very comfortable with buying a few games a year. For instance if i still had my rig id be playing Battlefield and some F2P mmorpgs and that's it. The games that I like are not on PC I'd still want my console it got to a point were my PC was just taking up space so I sold it to some old guy in jersey so he could use it to play EVE ONLINE true story. Side note find me a decent Anti virus because Comcast gave me Nortan thats crap Windows Defender is garbage and AVG doesn't do squat. I just trashed my Laptop because I got sick of it reformatted my HD and put it in my ps3. Anything with internet is vulnerable. The PSN was hacked you know. People's info are vulnerable on that too. And I'm pretty sure your friend acted prematurely. With anything, people charge you high for the labor. And especially for a girl and a PC. I would have shopped around you instead of dramatically throwing my week old PC away. That's just stupid. All she had to do was have a backup. Did she have one? I'm building a PC and when I get everything installed, I'm immediately doing a back up. Problems with my PC? Reverting back to backup. Virus? Reverting back to backup. PC requires a bit more care, that's why consoles are so popular. But it isn't like its not doable. You just need to be smart about what you download, where you download from, having the proper anti viral systems in place (F McAfee though), and have a back up ready for any problems. Too often people just get a PC and do whatever with it, then become shocked when its bogged down with viruses and it's acting funny. You have to take care of your PC. are you really saying that its her own fault that her pc got hacked and that she shouldv bent over to the demands of that bastard who hacked her? you sick son of a *. No amount of money can buy someone privacy. she did the right thing. i would rather completely destroy a computer if some ** head tried to do that to me. Closed Beta Vet. Playstation 4 or nothing CCP. Only the strongest can do good and the weakest do evil. - Void Echo
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 117	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:42:00 - [54] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Even if you could build the exact same PC as a PS4, the way it is used is VERY different. It's not for the same type of people. Console is what it is : a rather pretty box (ps4 at least), in your living room with a controller right by it, that you just poke and start playing with, not moving an inch from your couch. You dont have to wonder about specs, drivers, nor teamspeak or other chat. Nor do you ever have to wonder if the guy facing you is cheating\scripting\having a better machine and thus having an advantage etc... It is just NOT the same thing. I played on my PC when i was 15 to 22 and followed the gear market etc... Now ? im 30 and dont have a room where i can have a desk with a computer, nor do i have the time or envy to bug myself with PC gaming. My PC is a laptop, it plays movies, surf the internet and downloads prons (when needed) . that's it. So as much as you're trying to help, you're just pissing off people because of all of the above. Console player COULD play on PC and would know just as much as the next guy HOW TO. They just DONT WANNA I agree and disagree. While its true that playing on console is different (at least without effort) from it on PC, we cannot say ALL console players know how to or are sufficiently informed to form an opinion. In that light, its good to have some pointers about how it looks like on the other side of the fence. Theres all people around the spectrum, people that are in love for consoles , in love of PC's, people who love both, perhaps not equally, people who only know one and are oblivious to the other, sometimes out of prejudice and ignorance. So, idk, information is allways good, imo.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3266	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:48:00 - [55] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Motoko KitsunePilot wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care look Im not hear to troll so please it hurts to hear you react so negatively, I am here to help you guys out, with a set up like this your PC will be allot like a PS4 so I dont understand whats the problem with buying a PC instead ? :( Even if you could build the exact same PC as a PS4, the way it is used is VERY different. It's not for the same type of people. Console is what it is : a rather pretty box (ps4 at least), in your living room with a controller right by it, that you just poke and start playing with, not moving an inch from your couch. You dont have to wonder about specs, drivers, nor teamspeak or other chat. Nor do you ever have to wonder if the guy facing you is cheating\scripting\having a better machine and thus having an advantage etc... It is just NOT the same thing. I played on my PC when i was 15 to 22 and followed the gear market etc... Now ? im 30 and dont have a room where i can have a desk with a computer, nor do i have the time or envy to bug myself with PC gaming. My PC is a laptop, it plays movies, surf the internet and downloads prons (when needed) . that's it. So as much as you're trying to help, you're just pissing off people because of all of the above. Console player COULD play on PC and would know just as much as the next guy HOW TO. They just DONT WANNA ^^^^ Cazaderon is always right. PSA: Just please, everyone stop acting like: 1) The move to PC is the only issue people have with CCP 2) We don't want to move to PC because we are poor or stupid or just don't understand how sooper amazing PC gaming is. I have all the money and technical knowhow necessary to do whatever the fck I want with a PC. Annnd.. I don't want to. For all the reasons outlined in this thread and others. This is an informed decision I have made after much thought. Your lame attempts to shame me into doing so are a waste of both our time (definitely mine, maybe your time is worthless, mine certainly is not) I turn on my console, drop my ass on the couch, feet on the coffee table next to my beer, and play games on a big-ass HDTV with 6.1 surround sound, as the good Lord damn well intended it!* I also don't have to worry about: - Hardware inequality. We are all on a level playing field. - Upgrading my hardware every 1-2 years - Wondering if the guy just beat me because he's good or because of hax So, stop. Just stop. Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit! See you in Destiny psn: bobswerski
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 117	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:55:00 - [56] - Quote Void Echo wrote: are you really saying that its her own fault that her pc got hacked and that she shouldv bent over to the demands of that bastard who hacked her? you sick son of a ***. No amount of money can buy someone privacy. she did the right thing. i would rather completely destroy a computer if some ** head tried to do that to me. Hackers just dont simply hack inside computers, you know? Its not like the movies. IMO, I am pretty sure it was her fault. She probably ended up on some suspicious site or clicked o a suspect link or email attachment. Its not like shes guily, but shes unknowingly responsible. Next time, at least ask her to throw her PC on my trash ;)
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 443	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:58:00 - [57] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O the pricing is a lie though. windows = $100 blurray & playback software = $100 Hd 7870 (2GB) i= $170 he low-balled the price by ~$200, and that PC will take ~2-3 times more electricity. Oh and more headaches, and most people can't build PC (or change their oil). PC gamers just can't stop lying. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 117	Posted - 2014.05.13 18:59:00 - [58] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: and play games on a big-ass HDTV with 6.1 surround sound, as the good Lord damn well intended it! I also don't have to worry about: - Hardware inequality. We are all on a level playing field. - Upgrading my hardware every 1-2 years - Wondering if the guy just beat me because he's good or because of hax So, stop. Just stop. - you can plug the PC to a big ass TV. - imo thats a non issue. - if you believe in that, you are wrong. - I wondered the same thing playing CoD Ghosts on the PS3..... oh well. But yeah, platform is a matter of what one suits better your lifestyle.
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 250	Posted - 2014.05.13 20:41:00 - [59] - Quote PC =/= Console. Im a Console guy, and even though I can easily get a Gaming PC... im a Console guy. I dont like gaming on PC, and that wont change. The same as some PC guys wont get a Console. Thats my main fundamental problem, aside from all the other stuff about laser focused and la-de-da. I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. I swear to it.
Nstomper Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 573	Posted - 2014.05.14 13:28:00 - [60] - Quote OP you seem like a nice girl? or guy so ima just say this all nice and easy for you. Firstly i want to thank you for trying to help us console gamers out by posting this but it isn't going to do justice around here as there are reasons why many of us prefer console over pc despite the hardware difference. For some it could be because they have been gaming on consoles since they were little kids up until now and they do not feel like moving to a whole differnt platform to game. For others it could be because console gaming provides comfort and it's family orientated, for example when i still lived with my parents and my brother and sisters we would use the xbox's kinect (which i normally didnt like because i was a gears of war and cod player) but it was fun playing this one game with my family where two people are on this little raft on a river and you have to dodge, jump, and run sometimes. Everyone had a good time laughing and playing around while our legs and muscles burned like ****. That kind of family bonding can not be achieved by gaming on PC in my opinion.

Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1521	Posted - 2014.05.14 13:51:00 - [61] - Quote Ld Collins wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: CCP said they were laser focused on the PS3. THAT OBVIOUSLY CHANGED - so I understand peoples confusion and sadness. Why would going to the PS4 be any better than the PC? As a PS3 owner it would require you spending extra cash on a new computing device of some sort? So really it just comes down to console people being console people. Happy to buy a PS4 but for what ever reason not happy to purchase a PC (or MAC if that is your thing). That's FINE! I know some console people just want to chill, dont take games too seriously..blah blah many other reasons.. etc... So I dont understand the moaning about Legion coming to PC. They never mentioned it going to the PS4 either. Edit - Actually, I just read that post above me and I think I understand. People are just to ******* stupid these days.... they want their hand held. Right people are stupid, because people who are stupid hack pc games, because the devs who are people weren't smarter than the stupid people who hacked their game. Its all clear now obviously avoiding the hassle of hackers and cheaters means you're stupid and need your hand held. I must be an alien because I decided to do the smart thing which is whatever satisfies me. yup your stupid im stupid we are all stupid if legion is runnable on linux then i will install it just to watch it die and laugh. and as for pc's and their vulnerability WINDOWS is vulnerable. (nuff said) pc's are an expensive luxury. from my exp they do not really lead to as enjoyable and relaxing a gaming exp as consoles
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3269	Posted - 2014.05.14 15:00:00 - [62] - Quote Nstomper wrote: On to the comfort thing i dont know about you but i like laying down on my bed, couch , or soft carpet while i play my games while staring at my beautiful Haier HD TV. Sure i can hook up my gaming pc (if i had one) to my tv but to me it just would not be the same. I do have a laptop and lay down to use it but even that gets uncomfortable for me being that i have to constantly adjust my laying positions to find the right spot that would provide comfort for 30 minutes before changing positions. I tried gaming on pc before a while back on my brothers PC and my back would hurt like crazy sitting in that position hours upon hours. ^^ Exactly. And, again, thank you Ender Storm, for helping this poor intellectually challenged console gamer. I had no idea it was possible to hook up a PC to a TV. That is completely new information! Where am I going to put it? (Not everyone has a space for yet another box in their living room) How am I going to see the tiny fonts that are not designed for such use? (My eyesight is not what it was in my 20's) How am I going to remain competitive with the people using gaming/macro enabled KBM equipment? (I will conceed the argument that maybe I'm not all that leet with a controller on PS3 either, lol. But... all the more reason to want an even playing field. I will not under any circumstances consider playing with KBM so don't even try. I get enough strain on my hands/wrists at work already, thank you) Quitting cold turkey was impossible. The forum patch is helping me kick the habit! See you in Destiny psn: bobswerski
Jake Diesel Legion-10 165	Posted - 2014.05.14 15:04:00 - [63] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O First off. I'm on my mobile phone on forums. Second, many of us have already invested on a PS4. To say that a new PC is easily obtainable is quite ignorant since money doesn't grow out of my pockets. I quit pc gaming years ago when I used to build my own rigs from scratch. So I'm no scrub. PC gaming is one big hassle to deal with and I got out of it for all the right reasons. Will I ever go back to pc? Perhaps. But no one game is worth spending another $500+. You PC players need to get a clue that some of us have already been there and done that. So no. It's either on PS4 or bye bye Legion.
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 514	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:11:00 - [64] - Quote So much anger in this thread. Frankly I don't think anyone should run out to buy any piece of equipment that you can't afford, and to do so for a single game is a bad reason. Not worth it. I use my home PC for more than movies and the web. It's also for work, art, and school so hence when I decide to upgrade my system those are the primary things I take care of and gaming is the icing on the cake. If anyone is even considering a PC as a replacement for a console ONLY to game I would urge you strongly against it. PC are not consoles and they take more care to use and maintain. It's like owning a car. I'm not trying to convert anyone away from consoles. The way I see it its a more versatile tool which I am comfortable using for more than just entertainment. Warframe was apparently ported to PS4 in under 4 months. Let CCP develop on their native platform and then port when they have something to port. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!" The Space Hippie
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 139	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:34:00 - [65] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: And, again, thank you Ender Storm, for helping this poor intellectually challenged console gamer. I had no idea it was possible to hook up a PC to a TV. That is completely new information! My pleasure. John Demonsbane wrote: Where am I going to put it? (Not everyone has a space for yet another box in their living room) I am sure theres a palce to put an micro-atx format case. On the side of the shelve, behind the tv. Theres allways a place. Get creative, afterall you found a place for the PS3 :) In my case, it could confortably fit on the side of my shelve. John Demonsbane wrote: How am I going to see the tiny fonts that are not designed for such use? (My eyesight is not what it was in my 20's) Several options: - Configure the windows fonts to the bigger size. - Configure the screen resolution to a lower resolution while on the OS, the screen resolution when executing games is a different matter and not subordinate. - Use Steam Big Picture. Its steam interface for use on the TV's. Big fonts and boxes, rigth there. John Demonsbane wrote: How am I going to remain competitive with the people using gaming/macro enabled KBM equipment? (I will conceed the argument that maybe I'm not all that leet with a controller on PS3 either, lol. But... all the more reason to want an even playing field. I will not under any circumstances consider playing with KBM so don't even try. I get enough strain on my hands/wrists at work already, thank you) Man, if theres one thing I believe is overhyped is gaming/macro stuff. I play just fine with a 10 year old, 3 buttons mouse. I had some money and bought myself a mechanical keyboard. Guess how many special keys it has? Zero. It was $120. The only benefit is that it will last forever and will be more confortable for typing. I literally run from macro keyboards. Gamey things have a tendency for low quality. I prefeer well build, proven stuff. You wont be losing matches because of it.
TunRa Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 614	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:47:00 - [66] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: the reason why people are quitting is because we dont want to get pc's period end of discussion. quit telling us how easy it is to build a pc we dont care You speak for everyone do you? All console players want to live in ignorance as you do? I find that hard to believe. is that all you have to say? console gamers ignorant this , console gamers ignorant that, WE DONT WANT TO BUY PC's IF WE DID WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE ONE AND NOT BE PLAYING OUR CONSOLES I have both btw. I mostly play on my ps3 but i do use my PC a lot. You took my gif, back to FoxFour
KING SALASI MAJOR DISTRIBUTION 319	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:53:00 - [67] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: Motoko, that was a terrific set of vids you've posted and I'm glad to see your positive share to the forum. $566.16 USD for a gaming PC is a great build and perfectly shows how PC gaming is easily attainable. My Acer laptop was about $400 CAN when I picked it up a couple of years ago, and it still runs EVE. Graphically there will be options to tweak for the upcoming Legion, and players need to remember that. Out of my own ignorance, how do the console only mercs here access the forum if not by some simple PC? Is everyone on a tablet? o_O I'm on my Android phone I work on a PC for work. Look I've been gaming for over 30 years. I started PC gaming on my Atari 800 PC, then my Commodore 64, then my Commodore 64C. Yup good old floppy disk with my hard drive. Then i switched to the Sega Master System(Console) and never looked back. I just out grew PC gaming, Console for me is very convient. The only game i went back to PC, was Eve online it's point and click so it was comfy. I have my PS3 & PS4 for my gaming needs. As a console gamer I'm not into PC gaming anymore.
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 142	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:57:00 - [68] - Quote Any tips to help my bowling game? Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2014.05.15 23:11:00 - [69] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: Any tips to help my bowling game? Use that big ball XD Markdown
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 783	Posted - 2014.05.16 00:26:00 - [70] - Quote Helping Console gamers play EVE Legion... ok so whos giving out the free good gaming pcs?. mlt vets are eternal. they shall be the bane to proto scrubs everywhere... dust 514 shall be eternal. pve for dust 514



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