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Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:20:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We're totally aware of how prevalent cheating can be on PC, and we're looking in to anti-cheating. The security guys will be very busy, I'm sure. :) Are you guys intending to implement Punk Buster?
I am not sure if thats the best system to put in. I know games hackers can do lots off stuff without getting banned we need something better.
Fairfight also not a good option nope it does not do its job in infestation stories. He will ban in 1 week. You want 1 hacker to ruin multi districts and getting banned in 1 week with lots off damage done? You want quick reactions.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8474
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:26:00 -
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Roy Xkillerz wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We're totally aware of how prevalent cheating can be on PC, and we're looking in to anti-cheating. The security guys will be very busy, I'm sure. :) Are you guys intending to implement Punk Buster? I am not sure if thats the best system to put in. I know games hackers can do lots off stuff without getting banned we need something better. Fairfight also not a good option nope it does not do its job in infestation stories. He will ban in 1 week. You want 1 hacker to ruin multi districts and getting banned in 1 week with lots off damage done? You want quick reactions.
Which is why it's probably best for CCP to do what they do with Eve on Legion.
Flag suspicious ISK transactions.
Look for odd player behavior.
Use the Eve Online client checker to see if anyone is manipulating the data sent between the client and the server.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
1779
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:56:00 -
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I don't know how big of a deal the 10 hour hero thing is going to be in DUST/Legion. It is hard to tell just how much you will be able to screw with your corporations in Legion. If Legion is just like DUST now but with more stuff, will it matter about creating separate alts to do damage like they do in EVE?
Now for creating alternate accounts to cheat, there we have something don't we? Cheating happens in World of Warcraft where you have investment of at least 20 dollars for the WoW battlechest and 15 bucks a month after the first month. It will surely happen in a free to play game where all you need is an e-mail account to set up an account. Some kind of anti-cheating to detect people doing so will cut down people doing it but the latest and greatest wall-hacks and the like will always be around. Even if it cuts the cheating down to only being able to last a few days you still just have to create a new account every time to be able to do so.
CCP could cut this down in some unfavorable ways:
1. Require linking a credit card to Legion. This means that someone who cheats will be able to be banned for good even on another account. This is a terrible idea though. Free to play games love the 10 dollars here and there crowd. Requiring a credit card right off the bat will push people away. It also has the "my son used my card, cheated on his account, and now my account is band" thing.
2. IP address. A simple Google search gets you around that though.
The main thing for the Biomass Farm is to not give ISK but instead give credit that can only be used to buy skills. This means that a new player could buy skills and they may even start with Bind on Account weapons and modules but couldn't just send off their money to a different account.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Cyrus Militani
Leon Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.05.10 18:15:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We're totally aware of how prevalent cheating can be on PC, and we're looking in to anti-cheating. The security guys will be very busy, I'm sure. :)
It's too bad you guys weren't using Source w/ Steam instead of Unreal. They have this built-in already. |
Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2181
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Posted - 2014.05.10 19:53:00 -
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Wait, how is a SSD a cheat tactic?
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2211
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:20:00 -
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If the game design isn't set up to counter an SSD it gives a huge advantage to the team who is using it. When PC launched we fought many teams who had SSD players, and while we were still lagging our way out of the MCC, a scout with an SSD (which gave him a 10 second head start before we even started to load the map) was already into the center structure of the map placing links for the rest of the team to spawn on. It meant that they could capture 3 of the 4 points before we even started to hack the point closest to our MCC.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8481
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:23:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The main thing for the Biomass Farm is to not give ISK but instead give credit that can only be used to buy skills. This means that a new player could buy skills and they may even start with Bind on Account weapons and modules but couldn't just send off their money to a different account.
CCP can simply implement the following steps that are relatively easy to do in Dust and should be even more easy to implement on Legion.
1. Lock all ISK transfers coming from that newly-created character until the character has completed the academy.
2. Reduce starter ISK to about 250,000 instead of the usual 500,000. Alternatively, you can reduce this to just 5,000 ISK but have the Academy give out some free skill books like how Eve players get free skill books when going through the tutorial system.
Done.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8481
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:27:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:If the game design isn't set up to counter an SSD it gives a huge advantage to the team who is using it. When PC launched we fought many teams who had SSD players, and while we were still lagging our way out of the MCC, a scout with an SSD (which gave him a 10 second head start before we even started to load the map) was already into the center structure of the map placing links for the rest of the team to spawn on. It meant that they could capture 3 of the 4 points before we even started to hack the point closest to our MCC.
But that doesn't mean that using SSD is a cheat. It just means CCP needs to make sure that Legion is coded in a way that it takes away this advantage. Besides, seeing that this is coming to the PC, a player shouldn't be punished for using better hardware.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
1976
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The main thing for the Biomass Farm is to not give ISK but instead give credit that can only be used to buy skills. This means that a new player could buy skills and they may even start with Bind on Account weapons and modules but couldn't just send off their money to a different account. CCP can simply implement the following steps that are relatively easy to do in Dust and should be even more easy to implement on Legion. 1. Lock all ISK transfers coming from that newly-created character until the character has completed the academy. 2. Reduce starter ISK to about 250,000 instead of the usual 500,000. Alternatively, you can reduce this to just 5,000 ISK but have the Academy give out some free skill books like how Eve players get free skill books when going through the tutorial system. Done.
I would support the option #2 alternative in the name of consistency.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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