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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:14:00 -
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Aimbots should be easy to deal with on a PC. Just make it so that aim assist is hardly noticeable and NEVER user auto-aim-to-head when zooming in like you would likely see in CoD.
As for wall hacks, that's an entirely different beast.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8456
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:25:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:We're totally aware of how prevalent cheating can be on PC, and we're looking in to anti-cheating. The security guys will be very busy, I'm sure. :)
Are you guys intending to implement Punk Buster?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8470
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:16:00 -
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Whinis wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We're totally aware of how prevalent cheating can be on PC, and we're looking in to anti-cheating. The security guys will be very busy, I'm sure. :) Are you guys intending to implement Punk Buster? Punk Buster is not the only option, FairFight being one alternative - plus it is Legion is still only a prototype. Im sorry but neither of those work very well and act very much as spyware on your computer and like some other programs are near impossible to remove. The best way to fight those is not to sit there and try and implement every program around but do as eve does and look for odd patterns (such as consecutive headshots when not humanly possible) and ban people that way . The last thing I want on my computer is some malware just to make some people feel good.
In that case, I guess I don't think I want it on my computer either. I'm sure CCP can figure out patterns using their experience from Eve.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:16:00 -
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Thrydwulf Khodan wrote:The issues with policing computer based FPS games and the necessity for 'anti-hack' applications that are invasive is one of the reasons that the console market can make for a more consistent and 'even' experience for users.
Even if 'development work' for personal computers is 'easier'.
Eve Online actually has a built-in checker that does a quick scan of anything manipulating the data going in and out of the client. It's the first line of defense against bot users use software to manipulate the data in a way that enables them to AFK mine and mission for hours without attending the computer. More advanced bot programs use OCR (optical character readers) to get around that but CCP can catch those as well by simply using a combination of looking for suspicious ISK transactions and behavior detection which is usually updated on a regular basis.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8474
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:26:00 -
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Roy Xkillerz wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:We're totally aware of how prevalent cheating can be on PC, and we're looking in to anti-cheating. The security guys will be very busy, I'm sure. :) Are you guys intending to implement Punk Buster? I am not sure if thats the best system to put in. I know games hackers can do lots off stuff without getting banned we need something better. Fairfight also not a good option nope it does not do its job in infestation stories. He will ban in 1 week. You want 1 hacker to ruin multi districts and getting banned in 1 week with lots off damage done? You want quick reactions.
Which is why it's probably best for CCP to do what they do with Eve on Legion.
Flag suspicious ISK transactions.
Look for odd player behavior.
Use the Eve Online client checker to see if anyone is manipulating the data sent between the client and the server.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8481
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:23:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:The main thing for the Biomass Farm is to not give ISK but instead give credit that can only be used to buy skills. This means that a new player could buy skills and they may even start with Bind on Account weapons and modules but couldn't just send off their money to a different account.
CCP can simply implement the following steps that are relatively easy to do in Dust and should be even more easy to implement on Legion.
1. Lock all ISK transfers coming from that newly-created character until the character has completed the academy.
2. Reduce starter ISK to about 250,000 instead of the usual 500,000. Alternatively, you can reduce this to just 5,000 ISK but have the Academy give out some free skill books like how Eve players get free skill books when going through the tutorial system.
Done.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8481
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:27:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:If the game design isn't set up to counter an SSD it gives a huge advantage to the team who is using it. When PC launched we fought many teams who had SSD players, and while we were still lagging our way out of the MCC, a scout with an SSD (which gave him a 10 second head start before we even started to load the map) was already into the center structure of the map placing links for the rest of the team to spawn on. It meant that they could capture 3 of the 4 points before we even started to hack the point closest to our MCC.
But that doesn't mean that using SSD is a cheat. It just means CCP needs to make sure that Legion is coded in a way that it takes away this advantage. Besides, seeing that this is coming to the PC, a player shouldn't be punished for using better hardware.
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