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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:33:00 -
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Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2360
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:35:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
I think the correct reply would be:
"I duno what you've been smoking but I certainly would like a puff or two..."
And who are "we"?
- The PC master race?
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Vitharr Foebane
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
1186
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:35:00 -
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PC elitist detected... How bout you grow a pair and say that on your main so people know you for the traitor you are...
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
311
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:37:00 -
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dust514 is a game you play on your iPhone while taking a dump. I just scored 50 points on this thread. |
Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:38:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:PC elitist detected... How bout you grow a pair and say that on your main so people know you for the traitor you are... Maybe I already have said it on my main, or maybe this actually is my main.
Regardless, I can assure you that my main definitely said the same things I am saying. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1658
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:38:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
CCP lapdog....lol.
Talk to the sig.
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:39:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. CCP lapdog....lol. Talk to the sig. I would rather be hated for loving, than loved for hating. |
IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
311
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:39:00 -
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Ate some corn so I'm going for the top of the leader board here's another 50 points. |
Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1289
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:41:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. Succinctly put, good chap!
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:43:00 -
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EVE: Legion is exactly what all of us wanted. Maybe we didn't want it presented to us in this fashion, and maybe we didn't all want it to be on the PC, but the fact remains that EVE: Legion is essentially what we all asked for. |
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Joseph Ridgeson
warravens Final Resolution.
1611
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:46:00 -
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You see, here is the problem: EVE: Legion presentation
You know, I could have sworn they told me to tune into Twitch (paid 20 bucks too) to hear about DUST 514 rather than a completely different product. Remember, Legion is NOT DUST 514 on the PC; it is a different product. Looking at it as "mommy loves me more!" or "PC > console" is frankly ********. Imagine how EVE players would react if all of the EVE development team, for half the time that EVE has been officially launched, were working on the EVE board games and "development for EVE online would continue but be slowed." There would be as much outrage over that as there is now for Legion.
Were you around for Incarna? This is the same thing; CCP's total lack of openness and respect for their customers. They could have done the release of Legion in a way that didn't **** everyone off (have the DUST 514 keynote be only about DUST 514 and have Legion mentioned as a "DUST 514 is coming to PC" rather than it being a completely different product. But that didn't happen, either because CCP was really shortsighted how their customers would react to this news or they really didn't care what the customers thought.
No, the DUST community is not the worst nor is EVE. The outrage over how DUST fans were treated at FanFest this year by the company that makes the bloody game is equally as justified as Monoclegate and the Incarna ****-storm.
It is that simple.
Edit: even if "EVE: Legion is what we all asked for" it is still bullshit. "Buy the red car if you want to go off-roading." So we buy the red car. Now it is "buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car."
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2361
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:48:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:EVE: Legion is exactly what all of us wanted. Maybe we didn't want it presented to us in this fashion, and maybe we didn't all want it to be on the PC, but the fact remains that EVE: Legion is essentially what we all asked for.
A slight detail there....
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:49:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Legion is NOT DUST 514 on the PC CCP says that, but just look at the gameplay presentation. That's totally Dust 514. |
Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
1217
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:49:00 -
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Nah we ain't the worst! We haven't sent so many death threats that iceland police had to go to a devs house! The news we got was far worse than that community too! I mean could you imagine if they had just gotten rid of that sniper rifle?! Someone would have died!
I agree tho, legion is where dust is going to become amazing, shame it couldn't be done on the ps3 but let's face it nothing more could be done. |
Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:50:00 -
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:dust514 is a game you play on your iPhone while taking a dump. I just scored 50 points on this thread.
That's actually an insult to CCP. Angry Birds is a highly effective, functional game that has limited bugs and issues with the interface. Dust is the 180 but not that either. If you're saying Dust 514 is nothing more than a cheap app game, then what you're also not denying is that CCP can't even make a game that functions as smoothly as Angry Birds.
You sir have failed your white-knighting....
And complaining about the playerbase of Dust is likened to this: "we at CCP cannot make a game that gets core mechanics correct and we understand that the idea of an mmo-FPS is not always welcomed by console players so we'll opt to cut a majority of our playerbase who disagrees with us and make a game for a select fewer because all game companies strive to please the minority instead of working to find equilibrium with the masses".
That's really the point console gamers are making; they could have done a lot different with Dust and rather than see what they can do to fix a situation they will prefer to scrap it all and start over again. The one things about experienced developers is that they learn from their mistakes and try not to repeat it. It would make more sense from both a financial standpoint and a technical standpoint to see what they can get right/wrong with Dust before they assume they have it all figured out and start over. They haven't really proved they can make this FPS-mmo work the way they intended so the solution is to start from scratch?
It doesn't take a game planner to look at that last sentence and do a facepalm at what it entails...unless you work at CCP! |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
840
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:53:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
Yes we know those who play eve online and who only bought a PS3 for Dust and really wanted the game on PC are happy.
My question is: What does that have to do with the rest of us?
You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
444
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:54:00 -
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>year
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:56:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
So which one of CCP's employees are you?
I only ask this because I could only really see CCP having the gall to victim lame in this scenario.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:57:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:So which one of CCP's employees are you? I may or may not be the vice president of Crowd Control Productions. |
Lucrezia LeGrand
Sentinels of New Eden
540
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:58:00 -
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Because we're the playerbase CCP deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
Thale groupie (not the gun, but the man).
My other car is Utena.
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:00:00 -
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Lucrezia LeGrand wrote:Because we're the playerbase CCP deserves, but not the one it needs right now. That's... actually pretty funny. |
Kelestia Colvolian
DUST'S Rouge Wedding
100
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:03:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
What makes you think that Legion will be the game you want? You do realiise that, functionally, nothing has changed at CCP? The same incompetent fools who f***** up DUST (not to mention WoD) will also be the very same fools who f*** up Legion.
Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time. Well, if you expect CCP to succeed with Legion this time, you, Sir, are literally insane.
I'm not insane. So, whilst I will be along for the wild ride to Legion's almost certain failure, CCP will not be getting penny one from me until they present a fully-functional game that is fun to play now, not Soon(tm).
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:04:00 -
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Kelestia Colvolian wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. What makes you think that Legion will be the game you want? You do realiise that, functionally, nothing has changed at CCP? The same incompetent fools who f***** up DUST (not to mention WoD) will also be the very same fools who f*** up Legion. Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time. Well, if you expect CCP to succeed with Legion this time, you, Sir, are literally insane. I'm not insane. So, whilst I will be along for the wild ride to Legion's almost certain failure, CCP will not be getting penny one from me until they present a fully-functional game that is fun to play now, not Soon(tm). CCP made an open-world MMO on the PC once before. It's called EVE and it was a great success.
I am expecting them to replicate that success. |
Joseph Ridgeson
warravens Final Resolution.
1612
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:08:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Legion is NOT DUST 514 on the PC CCP says that, but just look at the gameplay presentation. That's totally Dust 514. Of the points that I make, the one that is regards to CCP stating in their dev blog "DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths" is the one you want to bring up in regards to "look how it looks?" This seems off to me.
I can show you the EVE board game I have (seriously, do not buy: the rules make no sense and even customer support can't decide what the hell it means) and "look at the artwork; that's totally EVE." It doesn't change the fact that it is a different product on a different system and, if the statements of it being worked on for the past 6 months is true, has had more development as a replacement for DUST 514 than DUST 514 actually has been developed as a game itself. Would you say that EVE hast the "Worst Playerbase Of The Year" is that happened? Maybe we can go back to 2011 and give that reward to EVE for the completely justified outrage over Incarna.
You should not blame the playerbase for being angry with the developers when the developers do something in their own best interest with complete disregard and disrespect for the players.
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
69
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:17:00 -
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(WALL OF TEXT WARNING! Still worth reading....)
Look at some of the replies in this thread. This is why guys like me are annoyed with most of the playerbase. We tried to help calm you guys down and make you see reason.... but every time someone wasn't sharing your rage and spewing the same hatebile, you accused us of one of the following: 1. Giving sexual favors to CCP employees (hint: when you give sexual favors, you're supposed to get something in return.... not give something else... your logic is fatally flawed.... not that I would expect high school kids to know anything about sex) 2. Being paid by CCP to say nice things (hint: internet "shills" don't actually exist. That's a made-up concept used by anti-vaxers and other conspiracy nutters in a desperate attempt to deflect a counter-argument based on truth and reason, that they may continue to cling to their delusions) 3. Being a member of the so-called "PC Master Race" (hint: there's really no such thing as a pure PC gamer... nearly all of us also have consoles and handhelds)
Here's a few helpful talking points to start you along:
-We're tired of hearing BS excuses like "I don't have/can't afford a PC".... I highly doubt this many people are typing out these multi-paragraph diatribes and following the forums for hours on end on a smartphone, unless the screen is a foot wide, and you're carrying around an auxiliary battery the size of a suitcase. I don't know who decided that console gamers have to hate PC gamers, but they lied to you.
-We're tired of the sigs and threads advertising how to go about getting an Aurum refund from Sony. You're screwing people over that may want to return to the game, later on. CCP *WILL* ban every character that had their AUR purchases refunded. You will not be able to migrate your account to Legion, should you choose to play that game once you see how awesome it will be. You will have to start all over, and that's if you're not IP banned, or banned by real name (tricky to pull off, but it can happen). Not only that, but Sony is keeping 25-50% of your money, anyway. It's a partial refund and Sony isn't giving you back their cut. PLUS there's the issue that most of you have already expended the items you bought with AUR.... so you have already used what you paid for, and you don't even deserve a refund.
-We're tired of watching you glaze over and refuse to read our replies when we're trying to interject some common sense into the discussion. And it's obvious when you don't read the whole post... cherry=pick a couple things here and there and take them out of context just so you can keep being angry. Sure, you might have a right to be upset, but this OUR community, too, and we don't want your crap, anymore. If you're going to quit, just quit. If not, shut the hell up and start engaging in discussion instead of flooding the forums with multi-page rants. Enough is e-f**king-nough.
-We're tired of logical and reasonable counterpoints being met with juvenile insults, name-calling and ethnic slurs. Keep that noise to yourself. Nobody cares if you have this unfounded idea that every EVE player is a 20-year-old overweight pizza face living in mom's basement and studying liberal arts at a community college. I'm engaged, have two daughters, own two cars and a house, am medically retired from the Army, and studying microbiology at UNLV. Most of you DUSTies are still barely hacking your way through No Child Left Behind and hoping your 'rents will co-sign for your student loans in a couple years, and that's okay..... all of us grownups were there, once. No need for hatespew because you're young. Stop it. That also brings me back to the "can't afford a PC" argument.... if you're working and still living with your parents, you prolly don't have to pay rent. I had a job at 16, and I bought myself all kinds of cool stuff because I had no expenses other than putting gas in my Datsun. We're freakin trying to help.
-We're tired of handing out constructive criticism only to hear you come back as though you were violently attacked. Being told you're wrong is not the end of the world. It just means that you're wrong. You will survive being wrong. I'm wrong a lot. Like that one time I didn't know President Bush was an idiot. I lived through that, and you will live through being wrong about a video game.
-We're tired of everyone acting like CCP is some kind of enemy. They are a corporation that employs people and provides a product. They have to pay their workers and still cut their customers' wallets as big a break as possible. That's not an easy task. Gods forbid they should make decisions that keep their corporation alive so they can keep supporting the games they develop, and feed their Icelandic families. I am going to let you know something about Iceland. They have a holiday where you barge into a complete stranger's house, and they feed you waffles. Any country that thinks that is a good idea for a national pasttime is probably really crappy at producing evil people. Evidenced by the fact that hardly anybody ever gets murdered in Iceland. Their police just had to shoot and kill someone for the first time since they officially became a modern country... and the officers who had to shoot the guy attended the funeral and grieved for the poor bastard right alongside the family. Show me where that happens in America.
Any more questions?
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:19:00 -
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I have very intention of becoming the new toxic crusader. My merc has died but will rise from the ashes an even stronger troll. You are nothing but entertainment for me a new hole for me to crap in the internet. Toodles
DUST514 an interactive mmo pvp game played at forums.dust514.com
CCP WILL STEAL FROM YOU
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:24:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote: Any more questions?
How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base?
How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month?
How does anything you wrote make it ok that we were promised 19 patches worth of Dust, 10 years worth of dust, laser focus on dust, just to be shelved 6 months later?
How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok?
It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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ArgosThanat0s
M E N A L O N
7
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:28:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. CCP lapdog....lol. Talk to the sig. I would rather be hated for loving, than loved for hating.
Whatever you say.....CCP ARTICO.
CCP - REALLY ? ........ REALLY ?
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:29:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote: Any more questions?
How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base? How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month? How does anything you wrote make it ok that we were promised 19 patches worth of Dust, 10 years worth of dust, laser focus on dust, just to be shelved 6 months later? How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok? It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it.
I am not excusing any of those things, and never have been. If you don't see the point I'm trying to make, let me spell it out in TL;DR format, in all caps so it's hard to miss:
THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, TOO... NOT JUST YOURS. STOP F**KING IT UP. IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, THEN LEAVE.
Silly Infantrymen... CAS Requests are for Forward Observers...
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:35:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote: Any more questions?
How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base? How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month? How does anything you wrote make it ok that we were promised 19 patches worth of Dust, 10 years worth of dust, laser focus on dust, just to be shelved 6 months later? How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok? It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it. I am not excusing any of those things, and never have been. If you don't see the point I'm trying to make, let me spell it out in TL;DR format, in all caps so it's hard to miss: THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, TOO... NOT JUST YOURS. STOP F**KING IT UP. IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, THEN LEAVE.
LOL, you are the one complaining about no one wanting to steer the conversation int the direction you deem fit. This community of yours if pissed, and you are just trying to white-knight for CCP. Stop it, the community has spoken, we will fill this forum with rage until we get the answers we seek. If you don't like it then go find some other community to be a part of.
Stop being CCPs white knight, they don't care about you as they have already proven. Stop trying to get us to change the subjest. Dust is dead, this is the only subject now.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
314
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:38:00 -
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What did you think of that big girl in precious? Was she a valid nominee?
DUST514 an interactive mmo pvp game played at forums.dust514.com
CCP WILL STEAL FROM YOU
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:40:00 -
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I will now answer your questions....
Mary Lilac wrote: How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base?
I don't think they lied, per se. Misled, yes. Maybe it was intentional, maybe it wasn't. I'm not a mindreader. But people make mistakes. Have you ever lied to someone you cared about? I'm betting yes. If they intentionally lied, then that's super not-cool, and I've expressed displeasure in CCP decisions in the past, as an EVE player. I don't see everything they do as being good and right. They're people. They make mistakes.
Quote:How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month?
It's not shelved, it's just being moved to another platform. And I can still log into DUST and play it. Same for everyone else. There has been no end date, as of yet, and CCP is still developing the game. Just because it's moving to PC and getting a new name doesn't mean it's gone.
Quote:How does anything you wrote make it ok that we were promised 19 patches worth of Dust, 10 years worth of dust, laser focus on dust, just to be shelved 6 months later?
(See previous answer) + your account and assets will migrate to Legion.
Quote:How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok?
I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that they thought most people would be ecstatic to hear the PC migration. PS3 is going to be abandoned before the end of 2015, by Sony. The network will shut down and you will no longer be able to play DUST on the PS3. It's going to happen. CCP was thinking about the playerbase when they made that decision. PS4 migration wasn't an option, so they went with the safe bet. And there is still no guarantee that Legion won't find its way over to the PS4 in the future. You're making assumptions.
Quote:It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it.
There you go again accusing me of shilling. Internet shills don't actually exist. You should have read that in my megapost. It was up near the top. And I'm not "QQ'ing because nobody gives a crap about what I'm saying".... I'm telling you that if you're going to leave the game, then just. Freaking. LEAVE.
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:45:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:
LOL, you are the one complaining about no one wanting to steer the conversation int the direction you deem fit. This community of yours if pissed, and you are just trying to white-knight for CCP. Stop it, the community has spoken, we will fill this forum with rage until we get the answers we seek. If you don't like it then go find some other community to be a part of.
Stop being CCPs white knight, they don't care about you as they have already proven. Stop trying to get us to change the subjest. Dust is dead, this is the only subject now.
Raging isn't getting you anywhere. The devs haven't been talking on the forums because they don't want to deal with all the juvenile drama. I don't blame them. Wait for the press releases and stop aggravating the crap out of the players who want to stay. Just pack up your stuff and go home.
And don't pull that "find some other community" BS.... you're the one who wants to leave. I'm just wondering why you're not gone already.
As you should have seen by now, I'm not "white knighting". If you'd known me from EVE, you'd know that I've been involved with CCP products from day 1 of EVE. I have always had something critical to say whenever CCP cockedup. The difference is, my criticism is constructive. Again, just because I'm not devolving into a neanderthal and screaming ragebile at everyone, doesn't mean I'm "white knighting".
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Cosgar
9265
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:46:00 -
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Worst playerbase actually belongs to CoD. It's so bad that programmers have armed themselves and have armed security with them.
Call 1-800-345-SONY, press 2, then 2 again to get your money back if you bought AUR in the past 90 days.
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Worst playerbase actually belongs to CoD. It's so bad that programmers have armed themselves and have armed security with them.
I'm actually going to say that WoW has the worst playerbase. WoW players have a pretty dismal track record... IRL murdering eachother over ingame items... real-world physical assaults over things that happen in the game... players meeting eachother in the game, getting married IRL, having kids and then allowing them to become malnourished because they can't put down the mouse..... amongst many many other things.
Even the ragebile on these forums, the last three days doesn't come close to the verbal abuse you'll endure in just a couple hours hanging out with WoW players.
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X7 lion
SWAMPERIUM
193
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:56:00 -
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i dont care about the fact that the game is moving ect ect i just hope all the toxic people stay away from legion they where not welcome in dust and if a gaming pc is a barrier to entry for atleast one troll then ill be happy.
Dust to Dust, the legion shall rise.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:03:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:I will now answer your questions.... Mary Lilac wrote: How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base?
I don't think they lied, per se. Misled, yes. Maybe it was intentional, maybe it wasn't. I'm not a mindreader. But people make mistakes. Have you ever lied to someone you cared about? I'm betting yes. If they intentionally lied, then that's super not-cool, and I've expressed displeasure in CCP decisions in the past, as an EVE player. I don't see everything they do as being good and right. They're people. They make mistakes. Quote:How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month? (See previous answer) + your account and assets will migrate to Legion. Quote:How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok? I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that they thought most people would be ecstatic to hear the PC migration. PS3 is going to be abandoned before the end of 2015, by Sony. The network will shut down and you will no longer be able to play DUST on the PS3. It's going to happen. CCP was thinking about the playerbase when they made that decision. PS4 migration wasn't an option, so they went with the safe bet. And there is still no guarantee that Legion won't find its way over to the PS4 in the future. You're making assumptions. Quote:It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it. There you go again accusing me of shilling. Internet shills don't actually exist. You should have read that in my megapost. It was up near the top. And I'm not "QQ'ing because nobody gives a crap about what I'm saying".... I'm telling you that if you're going to leave the game, then just. Freaking. LEAVE.
Actually I should clarify a few points from the Japanese newspapers and what we understand it to be.The end of support for the PS2 was 2012 and the end of support itself was the ceasing of production for the console. The 2015 mark for the PS3 is essentially when the hardware will no longer be in production anymore. Most PC gamers are assuming this as a "end-of-life" for the console when it's far different. And yes PS2 were continually sold well throughout it's decade long history strongly in Japan as well as the middle east and other parts of Asia. There were always game still made for the PS2 not available in the US, Europe and North America. Some of these PS2 games have found themselves in the PSN as downloads. Sony Japan has also clarified what 2015's mark means for the PS3; they intend to transition console production to the PS4 and shift away from the PS3.
I also don't mince words with "lie" and "misled"; saying you "misled" someone is sugarcoating a lie. Also the difference between lying to a loved one and a business is that business lies need to pay-off for the company; individuals lie to loved one for personal reasons, including financial. As a company CCP has an obligation to avoid PR mishaps that make it look foolish and further hurt the company.
There's also a few things I'd add in. Their financials are in a mess. They're still reeling over the cancellation of WoD. They also managed to really make the community more divisive over Dust and Legion. A decently minded public relations specialist would say "how about we not announce Legion just because it'll alienate people and we don't want to do that". Remember when Xbox One tried to offer features they thought it felt were "wanted" by console gamers? That didn't go well for them and people responded with their wallets and gave Sony a silver platter.
IF you want to say the playerbase are picky a@@holes; you're right we are. This might be a free game but a lot of us likes to see it succeed. The thing a lot of PC gamers and white-knighters are missing is that Legion is in the future, Dust514 is now. They've somehow managed to damage both games just to have something to say at Fanfest.
As I posted well before, players would've responded better to a Dust reboot, a Dust 2.0 or to have the game issues addressed and if Dust manages to come back a year later and say "hey we fixed tons of stuff" and the players overall agree with that assessment then the players would arrive at the conclusion that they learned a lot from Dust and how a firm grounding on how to create Legion. This is the problem with Legion: you could've avoided the issue from the get-go and come out stronger for it by being patient but CCP didn't. They instead committed corporate hara~kiri and made drama when it could've been avoided 100%.
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:17:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:
Actually I should clarify a few points from the Japanese newspapers and what we understand it to be.The end of support for the PS2 was 2012 and the end of support itself was the ceasing of production for the console. The 2015 mark for the PS3 is essentially when the hardware will no longer be in production anymore. Most PC gamers are assuming this as a "end-of-life" for the console when it's far different. And yes PS2 were continually sold well throughout it's decade long history strongly in Japan as well as the middle east and other parts of Asia. There were always game still made for the PS2 not available in the US, Europe and North America. Some of these PS2 games have found themselves in the PSN as downloads. Sony Japan has also clarified what 2015's mark means for the PS3; they intend to transition console production to the PS4 and shift away from the PS3.
I also don't mince words with "lie" and "misled"; saying you "misled" someone is sugarcoating a lie. Also the difference between lying to a loved one and a business is that business lies need to pay-off for the company; individuals lie to loved one for personal reasons, including financial. As a company CCP has an obligation to avoid PR mishaps that make it look foolish and further hurt the company.
There's also a few things I'd add in. Their financials are in a mess. They're still reeling over the cancellation of WoD. They also managed to really make the community more divisive over Dust and Legion. A decently minded public relations specialist would say "how about we not announce Legion just because it'll alienate people and we don't want to do that". Remember when Xbox One tried to offer features they thought it felt were "wanted" by console gamers? That didn't go well for them and people responded with their wallets and gave Sony a silver platter.
IF you want to say the playerbase are picky a@@holes; you're right we are. This might be a free game but a lot of us likes to see it succeed. The thing a lot of PC gamers and white-knighters are missing is that Legion is in the future, Dust514 is now. They've somehow managed to damage both games just to have something to say at Fanfest.
As I posted well before, players would've responded better to a Dust reboot, a Dust 2.0 or to have the game issues addressed and if Dust manages to come back a year later and say "hey we fixed tons of stuff" and the players overall agree with that assessment then the players would arrive at the conclusion that they learned a lot from Dust and how a firm grounding on how to create Legion. This is the problem with Legion: you could've avoided the issue from the get-go and come out stronger for it by being patient but CCP didn't. They instead committed corporate hara~kiri and made drama when it could've been avoided 100%.
And the proof of all that I am saying is that we're still debating this issue...
This is actually a well-formulated argument. I wish everyone else was expressing their displeasure in this kind of format.
I feel like the whole lying part is a semantic argument, so let's just agree to disagree on that one.
If I was wrong about the 2015 "end date", so be it. I'm not a Sony guy. I only have a PS3 because my girlfriend brought it with her when she moved in. When it comes to consoles, I'm normally an XBox and handheld gamer. Still primarily a PC gamer, but whatevs. That's beside the point.
Look.... I get that the way they announced it was bollocks. I agree with you in that. But you have to at least try to look at it from their point of view. My CEO is a big time DUSTie as well as a long-time EVE player (he hasn't been in EVE as long as I have, but he's still been there for a long time), and he's said a number of times "I'd rather hear it now than hear it a year from now when it's about to actually happen". They tried to come up with a way to give everyone time to prepare, and they did it the wrong way.
As for Legion itself.... you can't tell me you honestly expected DUST to stay on the PS3 for 10 years. I doubt Sony will hang onto the network on that console for very much longer.
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Kelestia Colvolian
DUST'S Rouge Wedding
102
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:19:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote: Any more questions?
How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base? How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month? How does anything you wrote make it ok that we were promised 19 patches worth of Dust, 10 years worth of dust, laser focus on dust, just to be shelved 6 months later? How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok? It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it. I am not excusing any of those things, and never have been. If you don't see the point I'm trying to make, let me spell it out in TL;DR format, in all caps so it's hard to miss: THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, TOO... NOT JUST YOURS. STOP F**KING IT UP. IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, THEN LEAVE.
You fail to take into account that many of us who have developed a hatred for CCP are still planning to take part in the Legion project. I personally have no problems with splits and factions amongst the remaining playerbase - the drama is quite amusing.
Ironically, the s***** way we've been treated by CCP has given me a renewed purpose when it comes to this game and its successor. You claim to be a great EVE player, so presumably you're familiar with James 315 and his fellow cultists of CODE - a bunch of griefers and extorters who exist for no other reason than to spoil the gameplay of others.
Well, that's what I'm planning for Legion. I'm going to it all legal and above-board, but my playstyle in Legion will be all about exploiting the mechanics to s*** in the sandbox and ruin the game for everyone else.
And you, Mr CCP-Lover are going right near the top of my griefing list.
This community belongs to both of us, and you need to understand that there is a CCP-Hater vs a CCP-Lover narrative going down. If you can't deal with that, you can leave.
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
315
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:20:00 -
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X7 lion wrote:i dont care about the fact that the game is moving ect ect i just hope all the toxic people stay away from legion they where not welcome in dust and if a gaming pc is a barrier to entry for atleast one troll then ill be happy.
Yea your right the PC will keep all those scary nasty people away. The soothing comforting hum of my PC is the reasuance I need at night to sleep knowing those undesirables are at bay. Keep preaching brotha.
DUST514 an interactive mmo pvp game played at forums.dust514.com
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Cinnamon267
197
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:22:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
Well, CCP did. All the problems are exacerbated by the annoying player base, but that would be the case for any MP games. Give them broken systems, they will break them. |
Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:29:00 -
[42] - Quote
Kelestia Colvolian wrote:
You fail to take into account that many of us who have developed a hatred for CCP are still planning to take part in the Legion project. I personally have no problems with splits and factions amongst the remaining playerbase - the drama is quite amusing.
I don't find it amusing... I find it damaging.
Quote:Ironically, the s***** way we've been treated by CCP has given me a renewed purpose when it comes to this game and its successor. You claim to be a great EVE player, so presumably you're familiar with James 315 and his fellow cultists of CODE - a bunch of griefers and extorters who exist for no other reason than to spoil the gameplay of others.
Quite familiar with the honorable agents of the New Order. James 315 is doing good work. They are not extorting or griefing. They're attempting to push the toxic players out of EVE by damaging their in-game experience. I always have and always will support that kind of emergent playstyle.
Quote:Well, that's what I'm planning for Legion. I'm going to it all legal and above-board, but my playstyle in Legion will be all about exploiting the mechanics to s*** in the sandbox and ruin the game for everyone else.
And you, Mr CCP-Lover are going right near the top of my griefing list.
Good for you. Forgetting what alliance I'm in? Read up on us and what we do, and you might understand a thing or two about how affected I will be by your brand of "griefing". It's just a game. I can turn it off and walk away any time and it doesn't come to the real world with me. Sorry to bust your bubble, but at the end of the day, the only in-game people that matter to me in real life are my alliancemates that I actually talk to when not plugged into the game.
But you're still welcome to try. PvP is fun.... win or lose. It's kind of hard to grief people who have the ability to separate reality from fantasy.
Quote:This community belongs to both of us, and you need to understand that there is a CCP-Hater vs a CCP-Lover narrative going down. If you can't deal with that, you can leave.
That doesn't mean you and all these other emoragers get to turn the forums into a completely toxic environment contaminated with filthy language, juvenile rants, and complete and outright BS, thereby driving what little community is left away. That is incredibly selfish of you all, and I'm going to keep calling you lot on it, whenever I feel the need to.
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Cygnus Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
136
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:29:00 -
[43] - Quote
In before lock.
OP is clearly a h3r0in junkie.
DUST sucked anyway. Play EvE instead.
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:32:00 -
[44] - Quote
Cygnus Gogela wrote:In before lock.
OP is clearly a h3r0in junkie. Clearly. I mean, why else would I lambaste a community that is quite plainly overreacting? |
Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:33:00 -
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:X7 lion wrote:i dont care about the fact that the game is moving ect ect i just hope all the toxic people stay away from legion they where not welcome in dust and if a gaming pc is a barrier to entry for atleast one troll then ill be happy. Yea your right the PC will keep all those scary nasty people away. The soothing comforting hum of my PC is the reasuance I need at night to sleep knowing those undesirables are at bay. Keep preaching brotha.
This is exactly why we keep having this pointless rift. PC gamers have plenty of viable ammunition to use as insults against console gamers.
But both sides of that worthless debate are stupid. Most gamers are cross-platform. Deal with it.
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:38:00 -
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Yeah, OP is right.
Burn Jita, amirite?
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:39:00 -
[47] - Quote
Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:Yeah, OP is right. Burn Jita, amirite? What about Burn Jita? Do you take issue with Burn Jita? |
Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
19
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:41:00 -
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Hey they're the ones that lied to us, I've lurked quite a few forums and this barely rates a 5/10.
We're all just trying to learn why they think doing this to paying customers is okay, and when they plan on doing it again to others. |
Joseph Ridgeson
warravens Final Resolution.
1617
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:41:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote: Clearly. I mean, why else would I lambaste a community that is quite plainly overreacting? Please provide an argument of this. Here is the argument that dissenters have with CCP:
"CCP told me 'buy the red car if you want to go off-roading.' After I bought the red car, it still clearly needed work so I waited for it to be able to go off-roading. Now, during an entire presentation about red cars and off-roading they state 'buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car but in a diminished capacity.' This shows a lack of respect from CCP."
What is the argument for our overreaction? How is the above statement fundamentally flawed?
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:44:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Samael Artico wrote: Clearly. I mean, why else would I lambaste a community that is quite plainly overreacting? Please provide an argument of this. Here is the argument that dissenters have with CCP: "CCP told me 'buy the red car if you want to go off-roading.' After I bought the red car, it still clearly needed work so I waited for it to be able to go off-roading. Now, during an entire presentation about red cars and off-roading they state 'buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car but in a diminished capacity.' This shows a lack of respect from CCP." What is the argument for our overreaction? How is the above statement fundamentally flawed? That argument is irrelevant in the context the message was given. |
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Jarod Garamonde Jr
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
70
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:51:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Samael Artico wrote: Clearly. I mean, why else would I lambaste a community that is quite plainly overreacting? Please provide an argument of this. Here is the argument that dissenters have with CCP: "CCP told me 'buy the red car if you want to go off-roading.' After I bought the red car, it still clearly needed work so I waited for it to be able to go off-roading. Now, during an entire presentation about red cars and off-roading they state 'buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car but in a diminished capacity.' This shows a lack of respect from CCP." What is the argument for our overreaction? How is the above statement fundamentally flawed?
It's fundamentally flawed because you have been "going offroading" for almost two years, and you will still be able to continue doing so until whenever the end date is.... which hasn't been announced yet.
CCP did not shut the lights off, tell everyone to go home, and bar the doors. The club is still open, and it's still hoppin. That raven girl in the corner totally wants you to get out on the dance floor. Go grab your rail rifle and get to twerking, mate.
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:16:00 -
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I am Legion. |
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Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
takes deep breath never mind just let him think that.
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:21:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. takes deep breath never mind just let him think that. Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?! |
Ducttape Tinker
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
164
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:50:00 -
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Nominating CCP ROUGE for Randy Pitchfords Trophy of best scammer of 2014.
read this we are not bad community, CCP is. and some more
via "CCP, the silence is doing harm" threat..
CCP Saberwing wrote:Ducttape Tinker wrote: And that question is DID CCP USED COMMUNITY MONEY and OUR IDEAS ON DUST2.0 aka LEGION?!
I understand where your concern is coming from here, but this is a question that we cannot answer in any form. CCP Does not disclose it's financials.
[quote=Ankbar Latrommi] And that question is DID CCP USED COMMUNITY MONEY and OUR IDEAS ON DUST2.0 aka LEGION?!
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I understand where your concern is coming from here, but this is a question that we cannot answer in any form. CCP Does not disclose it's financials. Then why would we give any of it to you?
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(this kind of stuff makes kickstarter look amazing; it's not like ks projects have longer delivery timelines than ccp lives by.)
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And that question is DID CCP USED COMMUNITY MONEY and OUR IDEAS ON DUST2.0 aka LEGION?!
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I understand where your concern is coming from here, but this is a question that we cannot answer in any form. CCP Does not disclose it's financials.
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So that's a yes then .... you lot at CCP deliberately led us on with ideas like a player markets and a full integration with eve along with lots of other features that were planed for dust solly to obtain cash out of our pockets. This said cash has obviously been used to fund legion . This is fraud and a scam at best CCP YOU HAVE LET ALLOW OF PEOPLE DOWN AND SHOULDBE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.
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And that question is DID CCP USED COMMUNITY MONEY and OUR IDEAS ON DUST2.0 aka LEGION?!
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I understand where your concern is coming from here, but this is a question that we cannot answer in any form. CCP Does not disclose it's financials.
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So that's a yes then .... you lot at CCP deliberately led us on with ideas like a player markets and a full integration with eve along with lots of other features that were planed for dust solly to obtain cash out of our pockets. This said cash has obviously been used to fund legion . This is fraud and a scam at best CCP YOU HAVE LET ALLOW OF PEOPLE DOWN AND SHOULDBE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.
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Is this how CCP solving situations?! Just run aways and always like little girls, hell even small girls have bigger bolocks and chin that CCP who alienate one zealing community, just for another one. What making me sick is how thei used money and ideas and implented them to taht f/cu/king PC PORT!!
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:57:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. takes deep breath never mind just let him think that. Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?!
I just did. You are now trolled.
Its not the fact [some of it] that CCP moved on to Legion, its the way it was presented. And we have a right to be upset. But dragging it out doesn't help things either.
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Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:12:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. takes deep breath never mind just let him think that. Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?!
And personally I wouldn't be. I'll give only two observations in this whole mess: (1) Dust514 is made by CCP and, thus, is an honest representation of their skills, abilities and insight into game development. (2) Dust is "now", Legion is "alpha". By saying
"Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time"
you admit that Dust is a lousy game and that, despite their abilities, efforts and resources you and countless others find it a lousy game. Here's a thought for you, as Dust is a current game, maybe they should *fix* the game to see what actually "works" rather than saying "hey guys here's Legion".
No one can honestly say how good/bad, boring/exciting or fun/nauseating Legion will be. No one can. However should the god of logic find my thoughts appealing maybe, JUST MAYBE, wouldn't it make more sense to instead of working on Legion [because no matter what you say it IS a zero sum theory, working on Legion diverts resources to EvE and Dust] to actually explore what they got wrong on Dust before experimenting on Legion because the god of Logic says if you can't get it right the first time, starting all over from scratch does NOT equate to making it right. The god of probability even says your odds are better coming from a fixed game versus a broken one.
Moving from PS3/PS4 to PC does only 1 thing: "omgz I have awesome graphics [with horrible game balance, bugs and dynamics] but I still <3 this game". That's all I'm getting.
And guess what you just proven me right with your sentence of Personally" I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time" only because it presupposes that Dust is what we thought it was. And that's awesome because I don't have to debate or argue you on any point; you just proved me correct sadly. Suddenly I am reminded of this clip in the news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmQbk5h86w
CPP you are whom we thought you were.....not disappointed but was hoping I was wrong. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8359
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:20:00 -
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Clearly you have never seen the Eve forums.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:23:00 -
[59] - Quote
PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Samael Artico wrote: Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?!
I just did. You are now trolled. You have a strange definition of "trolled", partner. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
1351
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:39:00 -
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Worst community 2014?
Check world of tanks or league of legends for truly horrible communities
State your stance on EVE:Legion
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
496
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:59:00 -
[61] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
I nominate you for worst nomination giver.
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THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
I agree. Only because YOU are a part of it.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
863
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:20:00 -
[63] - Quote
The worst community is Pokemon. Those insults are brutal on that game. That whole I'm rubber you're glue thing just kills me every time and I have no response for it. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1379
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:41:00 -
[64] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
Nothing you said makes any sense.
Hypothetical scenerio: Joe Smith bought a car and it broke down after two years (cars have a ten year life cycle). The company admits it was technically flawed and WAS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE and are now realising a second, better car. In your world the people who say anything against that company are childish and selfish.
Dude. Karma is a *****, and its coming for you. That would be adequate recompense for your unblinking lack of insight and shameless apologism.
I am not in anyway condoning ranting, or being abusive to the 'hired help' of CCP, they are only doing thier job. However, it is reasonable to assume when an enterprise makes a PR error that such an error was unintentional. They may not even be aware. You can't let them know by smiling and patting them on the back.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:47:00 -
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Dude, not the car analogy again. It didn't work for DRM arguments and its not working here bro.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
iceyburnz wrote:Hypothetical scenerio: Joe Smith bought a car and it broke down after two years (cars have a ten year life cycle). The company admits it was technically flawed and WAS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE and are now realising a second, better car. In your world the people who say anything against that company are childish and selfish. There are a few key differences between a free-to-play software product and a car.
1. You actually buy a car. 2. The car will work even if the company that made it stops supporting it. 3. The company is not updating your car for free. 4. A car doesn't need a specific road system to operate effectively. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:57:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Samael Artico wrote: Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?!
I just did. You are now trolled. You have a strange definition of "trolled", partner.
I do don't I?
Scout Forever, GJR approved, CATLOSS' LogiBro, PSN; SIL4NTCHAOZZ
GLU-TAC user Efficiency LvL ll
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
219
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Posted - 2014.05.06 09:59:00 -
[68] - Quote
So basically the analogy sucked bro. The car analogy needs to die not now, but right now.
Saying what's on people's minds
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
1530
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:47:00 -
[69] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
this
All Hail Legion
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
106
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:25:00 -
[70] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.
Oh please. CCP was lucky to get the 5,000 or so that they did. Words on the forum do not dictate CCP's development. Go check out the EVE forums. Same deal. Those so called mature players are like babies most of the time. I never saw any difference when I came on here except the whining about the KB/M.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1832
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:27:00 -
[71] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:EVE: Legion is exactly what all of us wanted. Maybe we didn't want it presented to us in this fashion, and maybe we didn't all want it to be on the PC, but the fact remains that EVE: Legion is essentially what we all asked for.
legion is the same empty promises that dust was founded upon.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1676
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:33:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Nah we ain't the worst! We haven't sent so many death threats that iceland police had to go to a devs house! The news we got was far worse than that community too! I mean could you imagine if they had just gotten rid of that sniper rifle?! Someone would have died!
I agree tho, legion is where dust is going to become amazing, shame it couldn't be done on the ps3 but let's face it nothing more could be done. yeah down here in Cartel Land they do not do internet death threats folks just get placed in a metal PEMEX drum and set on fire
or they get an AK hello! like the car bombs / bullet storm yesterday where they killed the chief of the Federal State Police army then it was three hours of taka taka taka taka taka of the Federal State Police army killing Cartel Land members
good thing thick concrete walls stop a lot of bullets
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2071
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:37:00 -
[73] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:Kelestia Colvolian wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. What makes you think that Legion will be the game you want? You do realiise that, functionally, nothing has changed at CCP? The same incompetent fools who f***** up DUST (not to mention WoD) will also be the very same fools who f*** up Legion. Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time. Well, if you expect CCP to succeed with Legion this time, you, Sir, are literally insane. I'm not insane. So, whilst I will be along for the wild ride to Legion's almost certain failure, CCP will not be getting penny one from me until they present a fully-functional game that is fun to play now, not Soon(tm). CCP made an open-world MMO on the PC once before. It's called EVE and it was a great success. I am expecting them to replicate that success. Lol - in that open world MMO they didn't have to come to grips with solving the problem of characters interacting with terrain and objects/structures. This was something they were unable to handle in DUST.
The platform will not change what is required from the coding.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
8049
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:41:00 -
[74] - Quote
I nominate EVE: Online for worst player base of all time.
Why? For encouraging players to commit suicide in real life, and for following the practices of the 3rd Riech.
inb4 The Lock!
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1676
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:45:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Samael Artico wrote:Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.
Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time. Nothing you said makes any sense. Hypothetical scenerio: Joe Smith bought a car and it broke down after two years (cars have a ten year life cycle). The company admits it was technically flawed and WAS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE and are now realising a second, better car. In your world the people who say anything against that company are childish and selfish. Dude. Karma is a *****, and its coming for you. That would be adequate recompense for your unblinking lack of insight and shameless apologism. I am not in anyway condoning ranting, or being abusive to the 'hired help' of CCP, they are only doing thier job. However, it is reasonable to assume when an enterprise makes a PR error that such an error was unintentional. They may not even be aware. You can't let them know by smiling and patting them on the back. you buy some guns and get told they are good for ten years but two years later the guns no longer work so do you call 1 800 bill collector?
no
you take a crew and some oil drums and some gasoline and the problem is fixed
there.
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
631
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:46:00 -
[76] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:EVE: Legion is exactly what all of us wanted. Maybe we didn't want it presented to us in this fashion, and maybe we didn't all want it to be on the PC, but the fact remains that EVE: Legion is essentially what we all asked for.
The Dust trailers looked just as great. Legion doesn't exist, it Is an proposal from a company that just cancelled their previous one.
Because, that's why.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
109
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:55:00 -
[77] - Quote
low genius wrote:Samael Artico wrote:EVE: Legion is exactly what all of us wanted. Maybe we didn't want it presented to us in this fashion, and maybe we didn't all want it to be on the PC, but the fact remains that EVE: Legion is essentially what we all asked for. legion is the same empty promises that dust was founded upon.
Yep, so far there is no difference in the original trailer and demo for DUST and what they have shown for Legion.
Seeing is believing. Give me a fully functioning game that truly out performs DUST then I will support it.
Remember, player base is the true test of success. No player base, no development. Will EVE PCers support Legion enough to help get it going? Will they continue to make use of it?
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3206
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:01:00 -
[78] - Quote
I stopped reading at "Internet shills don't exist."
That's adorable if you really think that.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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Seamie Schmoove
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
201
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:43:00 -
[79] - Quote
Worst playerbase? Surely not. I don't see any COD or BF fanfests or player meets. I haven't added as many people to my psn in the past 2 years from anything else I've ever played. I don't give a damn about the money I've invested, its losing the people from that same playerbase that wrecks my head. Therefore I nominate the playerbase here as the best...
Oh and by the by OP, Ccp IS killing Dust. The fact that its moving to PC and is being called something else i.e LEGION is about as close to ending something as you can get.
Playing the game badly since Replication
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PR0FESSOR CHAOS
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:01:00 -
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Since we're pretending it's the VGA I nominate CCP as the worst fps designer, congrats now spin this into it being my fault. Idiot.
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2009
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:08:00 -
[81] - Quote
I second this!
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
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Hairy Butter
Fairy Fleet
107
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:23:00 -
[82] - Quote
People would not care if they were not emotionally involved, if apathy is good then yeah I guess Dust 514 player base is pretty horrible. |
Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2014.05.08 06:53:00 -
[83] - Quote
I summon this thread from the bowels of hell!
Rise, my pet, rise! |
Gemini Cuspid
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2014.05.08 07:20:00 -
[84] - Quote
PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote:Since we're pretending it's the VGA I nominate CCP as the worst fps designer, congrats now spin this into it being my fault. Idiot.
Don't need to nominate that, they've actually won several awards for 2013 for worst FPS and FPS/MMO/F2P game title. I know mmorpg.com gave them their worse game for an mmo last year with the supporting evidence of several keynotes to the public and business of them stating it's an mmo-themed FPS game.
In other words, the voting is done and the rewards were long since handed down. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4480
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Posted - 2014.05.08 07:20:00 -
[85] - Quote
Samael Artico wrote:EVE: Legion is exactly what all of us wanted. Maybe we didn't want it presented to us in this fashion, and maybe we didn't all want it to be on the PC, but the fact remains that EVE: Legion is essentially what we all asked for.
You're right, EVE:Legion is exactly what all of us wanted.
That's why we played Dust. Because CCP told us that's what was coming to Dust.
Legion doesn't even exist yet, and you're pinning the exact same hopes on it after they've already been dashed.
At this point, you're an idiot if you think CCP can deliver.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2014.05.08 07:50:00 -
[86] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:At this point, you're an idiot if you think CCP can deliver. I think the same away about Christians who think Yahweh can save them.
I guess you could say CCP is my religion. |
Rupture Reaperson
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
325
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Posted - 2014.05.08 07:57:00 -
[87] - Quote
Pvt Numnutz wrote:Nah we ain't the worst! We haven't sent so many death threats that iceland police had to go to a devs house! The news we got was far worse than that community too! I mean could you imagine if they had just gotten rid of that sniper rifle?! Someone would have died!
Im not saying that they should... but i wouldnt condone it. Would be amusing... and accomplish far more that a bunch of eggheads throwing a hissy fit and shooting their lazers into npc buildings. Lets not forget ENGINE TRAILS OMGOZ
Samael Artico wrote:I am Legion. So as the next prepubescent next door with a Guy Fawkes mask. Yeah yeah REAL SCARY. Whoopty ******* doo.
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Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.05.08 08:03:00 -
[88] - Quote
Rupture Reaperson wrote:Samael Artico wrote:I am Legion. So as the next prepubescent next door with a Guy Fawkes mask. Yeah yeah REAL SCARY. Whoopty ******* doo. You're thinking about a different kind of legion, mate. |
Koshh Seere
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6
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Posted - 2014.05.08 08:09:00 -
[89] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:You see, here is the problem: EVE: Legion presentation
You know, I could have sworn they told me to tune into Twitch (paid 20 bucks too) to hear about DUST 514 rather than a completely different product. Remember, Legion is NOT DUST 514 on the PC; it is a different product. Looking at it as "mommy loves me more!" or "PC > console" is frankly mentally deficient. Imagine how EVE players would react if all of the EVE development team, for half the time that EVE has been officially launched, were working on the EVE board games and "development for EVE online would continue but be slowed." There would be as much outrage over that as there is now for Legion.
Were you around for Incarna? This is the same thing; CCP's total lack of openness and respect for their customers. They could have done the release of Legion in a way that didn't **** everyone off (have the DUST 514 keynote be only about DUST 514 and have Legion mentioned as a "DUST 514 is coming to PC" rather than it being a completely different product. But that didn't happen, either because CCP was really shortsighted how their customers would react to this news or they really didn't care what the customers thought.
No, the DUST community is not the worst nor is EVE. The outrage over how DUST fans were treated at FanFest this year by the company that makes the bloody game is equally as justified as Monoclegate and the Incarna ****-storm.
It is that simple.
Edit: even if "EVE: Legion is what we all asked for" it is still bullshit. "Buy the red car if you want to go off-roading." So we buy the red car. Now it is "buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car." Dumbass, there was noone who held a gun to your head and told you to pay for the HD stream, also as a "customer" of a free to play game you really don't have any rights at all since you haven't paid jack **** for the game. Now if you bought boosters you can ask for a refund a couple of months back from Sony, not CCP. Where you here when Dust came out? All EVE players where invited to the beta and most that tried said they won't play it unless it's on PC. And if you think console players are in a amjority when it comes to PC vs Consoles you are dumber than I thought. Thing is most EVE players that wanted Legion from day 1 of Dust doesn't bother coming in here, not even after Legion was announced.
Other people in this thread calling people traitor and whatnot should be taken out back behind the barn..., and I guess you can imagine the rest. Childish inbred kids is all I see. There's a reason Sony made the PS4 you know, because the PS3 is getting old and it's lacking the power to take any game to a higher level in general. If this is a problem for you either get a PC with an xbox controller, get a PS4 and hope CCP puts out Legion on it or HTFU like we do in EVE every day or not, it's your perogative. Imagine if every EVE player cried as much as Dust players do when someone blow up our 2-3 bill ratting ship because we were stupid. EVE would be something like WoW and everything would be high sec with no PVP other than duels where you didn't even lose your ship.
Now, to all Dust players, HARDEN THE **** UP! |
Rupture Reaperson
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
325
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Posted - 2014.05.08 09:24:00 -
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Samael Artico wrote:Rupture Reaperson wrote:Samael Artico wrote:I am Legion. So as the next prepubescent next door with a Guy Fawkes mask. Yeah yeah REAL SCARY. Whoopty ******* doo. You're thinking about a different kind of legion, mate. You both folk act the same. THATS THE JOKE, quite slow arent ya
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Nyctohylophobia
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.05.08 10:56:00 -
[91] - Quote
Atiim wrote:I nominate EVE: Online for worst player base of all time.
Why? For encouraging players to commit suicide in real life, and for following the practices of the 3rd Riech.
I actually agree, the PC Master Race has been annihilating peasants since orbital strikes became a thing which makes you a bigger traitor for calling down orbital strikes on your brethren! |
THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.05.08 10:58:00 -
[92] - Quote
i agree with OP, and would like to nominate them to be CPM'ers. |
BDiD
HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS
5
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Posted - 2014.05.08 11:28:00 -
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EVE is your community. You come on the forms to troll. So don't say no one listens and ccp is a company just doing its job. Stay on your EVE forms. You don't see us dust ppl on ur EVE crap talking and taking up space. Like buddy said, we don't care what an eve player opinion is. This would be like me saying ohhhh EVE this and eve that. No fair and to bad deal with it, there a company.
You just showed why we make fun EVE ppl. YOU COME ON OUR FORMS TO TROLLLL. Don't say oh, there no Legion forms so we have to come here... Its going to be a pc game, so stay on your PC game fourms. Coming to a ps3 game only fourm and talking crap is proving ur a loser. Rational thinking, go on a pc game SITE (EVE) to talk about future PC games from eve. NOOOO an eve player thinks, ps3 forms are the way to trolllll. U r a joke. Id but a pc just to stomp u on day 1 with my 15 month player. |
THE 2000 SWINE
Commando Perkone Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.05.08 11:55:00 -
[94] - Quote
BDiD wrote:EVE is your community. You come on the forms to troll. So don't say no one listens and ccp is a company just doing its job. Stay on your EVE forms. You don't see us dust ppl on ur EVE crap talking and taking up space. Like buddy said, we don't care what an eve player opinion is. This would be like me saying ohhhh EVE this and eve that. No fair and to bad deal with it, there a company.
You just showed why we make fun EVE ppl. YOU COME ON OUR FORMS TO TROLLLL. Don't say oh, there no Legion forms so we have to come here... Its going to be a pc game, so stay on your PC game fourms. Coming to a ps3 game only fourm and talking crap is proving ur a loser. Rational thinking, go on a pc game SITE (EVE) to talk about future PC games from eve. NOOOO an eve player thinks, ps3 forms are the way to trolllll. U r a joke. Id but a pc just to stomp u on day 1 with my 15 month player.
yup,
i'll be stomping in pve with my 50mill SP alt and grief/kill everyone of you PCmasterbaters- just to take all the loot.
fken noobs i'm 50% more of a beast with kb/m.
fck CCP and fck Legion and especially fck you! |
Samael Artico
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:52:00 -
[95] - Quote
BDiD wrote:EVE is your community. You come on the forms to troll. So don't say no one listens and ccp is a company just doing its job. Stay on your EVE forms. You don't see us dust ppl on ur EVE crap talking and taking up space. Like buddy said, we don't care what an eve player opinion is. This would be like me saying ohhhh EVE this and eve that. No fair and to bad deal with it, there a company.
You just showed why we make fun EVE ppl. YOU COME ON OUR FORMS TO TROLLLL. Don't say oh, there no Legion forms so we have to come here... Its going to be a pc game, so stay on your PC game fourms. Coming to a ps3 game only fourm and talking crap is proving ur a loser. Rational thinking, go on a pc game SITE (EVE) to talk about future PC games from eve. NOOOO an eve player thinks, ps3 forms are the way to trolllll. U r a joke. Id but a pc just to stomp u on day 1 with my 15 month player. Who said anything about EVE, mate? |
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