How does any of what you wrote make it ok to purposefully lie to the fan base?

How does it make it ok to have SP events geared towards AURUM sales on a game you know is going to be shelved ina month?

How does anything you wrote make it ok that we were promised 19 patches worth of Dust, 10 years worth of dust, laser focus on dust, just to be shelved 6 months later?

How does anything you wrote make the fact that CCP hyped up Fanfest specifically for dusties, and even pushed for dusties to go to fanfest only to punched in the stomach, ok?

It doesn't does it. By attempting to change the flow of conversation away from these HUGE issues, you come off as a coporate apologist doing CCP PR work for free. So stop QQ'ing about nobody giving a crap about what you are saying, because no one wants to hear it.

LOL, you are the one complaining about no one wanting to steer the conversation int the direction you deem fit. This community of yours if pissed, and you are just trying to white-knight for CCP. Stop it, the community has spoken, we will fill this forum with rage until we get the answers we seek. If you don't like it then go find some other community to be a part of.

Stop being CCPs white knight, they don't care about you as they have already proven. Stop trying to get us to change the subjest. Dust is dead, this is the only subject now.

Worst playerbase actually belongs to CoD. It's so bad that programmers have armed themselves and have armed security with them.

I will now answer your questions....



I don't think they lied, per se. Misled, yes. Maybe it was intentional, maybe it wasn't. I'm not a mindreader. But people make mistakes. Have you ever lied to someone you cared about? I'm betting yes.
If they intentionally lied, then that's super not-cool, and I've expressed displeasure in CCP decisions in the past, as an EVE player. I don't see everything they do as being good and right. They're people. They make mistakes.



(See previous answer) + your account and assets will migrate to Legion.



I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that they thought most people would be ecstatic to hear the PC migration. PS3 is going to be abandoned before the end of 2015, by Sony. The network will shut down and you will no longer be able to play DUST on the PS3. It's going to happen. CCP was thinking about the playerbase when they made that decision. PS4 migration wasn't an option, so they went with the safe bet. And there is still no guarantee that Legion won't find its way over to the PS4 in the future. You're making assumptions.



There you go again accusing me of shilling. Internet shills don't actually exist. You should have read that in my megapost. It was up near the top.
And I'm not "QQ'ing because nobody gives a crap about what I'm saying".... I'm telling you that if you're going to leave the game, then just. Freaking. LEAVE.

Actually I should clarify a few points from the Japanese newspapers and what we understand it to be.The end of support for the PS2 was 2012 and the end of support itself was the ceasing of production for the console. The 2015 mark for the PS3 is essentially when the hardware will no longer be in production anymore. Most PC gamers are assuming this as a "end-of-life" for the console when it's far different. And yes PS2 were continually sold well throughout it's decade long history strongly in Japan as well as the middle east and other parts of Asia. There were always game still made for the PS2 not available in the US, Europe and North America. Some of these PS2 games have found themselves in the PSN as downloads. Sony Japan has also clarified what 2015's mark means for the PS3; they intend to transition console production to the PS4 and shift away from the PS3.

I also don't mince words with "lie" and "misled"; saying you "misled" someone is sugarcoating a lie. Also the difference between lying to a loved one and a business is that business lies need to pay-off for the company; individuals lie to loved one for personal reasons, including financial. As a company CCP has an obligation to avoid PR mishaps that make it look foolish and further hurt the company.

There's also a few things I'd add in. Their financials are in a mess. They're still reeling over the cancellation of WoD. They also managed to really make the community more divisive over Dust and Legion. A decently minded public relations specialist would say "how about we not announce Legion just because it'll alienate people and we don't want to do that". Remember when Xbox One tried to offer features they thought it felt were "wanted" by console gamers? That didn't go well for them and people responded with their wallets and gave Sony a silver platter.

IF you want to say the playerbase are picky a@@holes; you're right we are. This might be a free game but a lot of us likes to see it succeed. The thing a lot of PC gamers and white-knighters are missing is that Legion is in the future, Dust514 is now. They've somehow managed to damage both games just to have something to say at Fanfest.

As I posted well before, players would've responded better to a Dust reboot, a Dust 2.0 or to have the game issues addressed and if Dust manages to come back a year later and say "hey we fixed tons of stuff" and the players overall agree with that assessment then the players would arrive at the conclusion that they learned a lot from Dust and how a firm grounding on how to create Legion. This is the problem with Legion: you could've avoided the issue from the get-go and come out stronger for it by being patient but CCP didn't. They instead committed corporate hara~kiri and made drama when it could've been avoided 100%.

And the proof of all that I am saying is that we're still debating this issue...

I am not excusing any of those things, and never have been. If you don't see the point I'm trying to make, let me spell it out in TL;DR format, in all caps so it's hard to miss:

THIS IS OUR COMMUNITY, TOO... NOT JUST YOURS. STOP F**KING IT UP. IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE, THEN LEAVE.

i dont care about the fact that the game is moving ect ect i just hope all the toxic people stay away from legion they where not welcome in dust and if a gaming pc is a barrier to entry for atleast one troll then ill be happy.

Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.

Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.

You fail to take into account that many of us who have developed a hatred for CCP are still planning to take part in the Legion project. I personally have no problems with splits and factions amongst the remaining playerbase - the drama is quite amusing.

Ironically, the s***** way we've been treated by CCP has given me a renewed purpose when it comes to this game and its successor. You claim to be a great EVE player, so presumably you're familiar with James 315 and his fellow cultists of CODE - a bunch of griefers and extorters who exist for no other reason than to spoil the gameplay of others.

Well, that's what I'm planning for Legion. I'm going to it all legal and above-board, but my playstyle in Legion will be all about exploiting the mechanics to s*** in the sandbox and ruin the game for everyone else.

And you, Mr CCP-Lover are going right near the top of my griefing list.

This community belongs to both of us, and you need to understand that there is a CCP-Hater vs a CCP-Lover narrative going down. If you can't deal with that, you can leave.

In before lock.

OP is clearly a h3r0in junkie.

Yea your right the PC will keep all those scary nasty people away. The soothing comforting hum of my PC is the reasuance I need at night to sleep knowing those undesirables are at bay. Keep preaching brotha.

Yeah, OP is right.

Burn Jita, amirite?

Clearly. I mean, why else would I lambaste a community that is quite plainly overreacting?

Please provide an argument of this. Here is the argument that dissenters have with CCP:

"CCP told me 'buy the red car if you want to go off-roading.' After I bought the red car, it still clearly needed work so I waited for it to be able to go off-roading. Now, during an entire presentation about red cars and off-roading they state 'buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car but in a diminished capacity.' This shows a lack of respect from CCP."

What is the argument for our overreaction? How is the above statement fundamentally flawed?

Please provide an argument of this. Here is the argument that dissenters have with CCP:

"CCP told me 'buy the red car if you want to go off-roading.' After I bought the red car, it still clearly needed work so I waited for it to be able to go off-roading. Now, during an entire presentation about red cars and off-roading they state 'buy the blue car if you want to go off-roading; we will continue to develop for red car but in a diminished capacity.' This shows a lack of respect from CCP."

What is the argument for our overreaction? How is the above statement fundamentally flawed?

Because it really does have one of the worst playerbases I've ever seen. CCP did not kill Dust 514. Anyone who watched the EVE: Legion presentation should attest to that. So enjoy complaining selfishly and childishly about how CCP scammed you by letting you play a great game.

Personally, I'll be looking forward to EVE: Legion, because that's what we've been waiting for all this time.

takes deep breath never mind just let him think that.

I understand where your concern is coming from here, but this is a question that we cannot answer in any form. CCP Does not disclose it's financials.

Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?!

Such cowardice! Are you not willing to engage me in the fields of battle?!

I just did. You are now trolled.