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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:14:00 -
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Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
447
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Posted - 2014.05.04 11:18:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote: 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received
The bad reaction is due to the HORRIBLE way they presented everything. Assuming they get their heads on straight and lay out a clear plan for BOTH games Legion will most likely have a good reception.
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs
30
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:35:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Megan Steel wrote: 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received
The bad reaction is due to the HORRIBLE way they presented everything. Assuming they get their heads on straight and lay out a clear plan for BOTH games Legion will most likely have a good reception.
Let's hope so... the damage is done anyway |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
557
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Posted - 2014.05.04 12:44:00 -
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i like this |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
709
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:09:00 -
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I really wish that players would stop knocking Destiny , I've seen the footage and it looks awesome .
Now I've seen reviews about game play as well and it looks alright as well .
It's not a rival to a game that's on it's last leg .
That's a whole different discussion .
Ever since that announcement I have been having a hard time just trying to play this game knowing that any effort means nothing now , CCP should give current players some sort of incentive to keep playing this game ... perhaps a SP refund and fixes to issues that have been swept under the rug for some time now , also fixing suits that have incorrect stats but something needs to be done .
I'm sure that they are producing legion with the dedication that they didn't give to Dust so I just don't believe that any of you have anything to worry about or else they wouldn't have made such an announcement .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4271
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:23:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Megan Steel wrote: 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received
The bad reaction is due to the HORRIBLE way they presented everything. Assuming they get their heads on straight and lay out a clear plan for BOTH games Legion will most likely have a good reception.
Mate you need to change your sig. I seriously can't read anything you post.
Sure, why the f*ck not?
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1268
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:47:00 -
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well CCP pulled off its oldest trick in the book/gaming history by scamming all of us into buying their booster packs. just like how its done in EVE/DUST they did to all of us in real life.
Markdown
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8299
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Posted - 2014.05.04 13:53:00 -
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Since the debacle, it now looks like CCP has no choice but to give Legion the green light. They said they will be able to get our character stats ported over to Legion so now the only concerns about that part is the "When" and "How".
Also, there needs to be an incentive for console-only players to get a gaming PC. I'm sure almost every console player out there has a PC already, but how many are gaming rigs in particular?
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs
34
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:13:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Since the debacle, it now looks like CCP has no choice but to give Legion the green light. They said they will be able to get our character stats ported over to Legion so now the only concerns about that part is the "When" and "How".
Also, there needs to be an incentive for console-only players to get a gaming PC. I'm sure almost every console player out there has a PC already, but how many are gaming rigs in particular?
I was debating this with BIRDANDY DBSA CEO.... We brazilians have a lot of trouble buying gaming platforms. If the system requirements are "low" we have an improved chance of moving our entire community to there... Even though BIRDANDY is really really pissed ... Give us a chance CCP!
I was banned ...
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Cymek Omnius
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:33:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Demands. Really? They could of rolled this project out a lot better I agree. There are players that are happy of these plans so far though. You do not know the half of CCP has gone through by saying this is what CCP is going to do and then not doing it. You do not want to try to make demands on a time frames in beginning. That is how many big companies screw things up and we do not want to do that. Do we? I have many of the same questions but realize that they might not have the answers yet and wont in the near future.
I think CCP presents gave us a good idea of what their strategy is now as far as bundling all products on PC at first. I am just hoping the pay model does not change for Legion compared to Dust.
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs
35
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:40:00 -
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Cymek Omnius wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, ...
Demands. Really? They could of rolled this project out a lot better I agree. There are players that are happy of these plans so far though. You do not know the half of CCP has gone through by saying this is what CCP is going to do and then not doing it. You do not want to try to make demands on a time frames in beginning. That is how many big companies screw things up and we do not want to do that. Do we? I have many of the same questions but realize that they might not have the answers yet and wont in the near future. I think CCP presents gave us a good idea of what their strategy is now as far as bundling all products on PC at first. I am just hoping the pay model does not change for Legion compared to Dust.
Well, good for you. The fact that you don't have any trouble with the changes doesn't mean that everyone should be "cool" with it... Some of us will have tons of trouble getting a PC, reuniting the corp, etc.
I was banned ...
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
3985
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:41:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys
I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know:
- Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet.
- Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :)
- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
- It's too early to be able to talk about Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking.
- Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans.
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs
35
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:48:00 -
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Thank you Saberwing, I know how hard is to listen to people frustation (I really do...)
Also, I would go ahead and give it the green light.
I was banned ...
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Khan Hun
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
128
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:50:00 -
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It'd be mad not to go ahead with it. Sooner it gets done the better! |
Ace Starburst
Tom Cruise Thetan Army
92
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:50:00 -
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I have a quick question/concern, assuming Project Legion gets the green light would I be able to change my character's name when it becomes transferred? |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7348
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:53:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest Quote from Nova Knife's blog:
Nova Knife wrote:We had countless meetings regarding messaging and how and when to unveil "Project" Legion. Among the very first things we said to CCP, was an emphatic, and unanimous;
"DO NOT WAIT UNTIL FANFEST TO TELL PEOPLE. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TELL PEOPLE AT FANFEST"
"We're not good at keeping secrets at CCP" -CCP Rouge
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Cymek Omnius
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:55:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:Cymek Omnius wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, ...
Demands. Really? They could of rolled this project out a lot better I agree. There are players that are happy of these plans so far though. You do not know the half of CCP has gone through by saying this is what CCP is going to do and then not doing it. You do not want to try to make demands on a time frames in beginning. That is how many big companies screw things up and we do not want to do that. Do we? I have many of the same questions but realize that they might not have the answers yet and wont in the near future. I think CCP presents gave us a good idea of what their strategy is now as far as bundling all products on PC at first. I am just hoping the pay model does not change for Legion compared to Dust. Well, good for you. The fact that you don't have any trouble with the changes doesn't mean that everyone should be "cool" with it... Some of us will have tons of trouble getting a PC, reuniting the corp, etc.
I do not remember saying the word cool but good luck to you on getting a computer. You have a years to get one if the past shows anything on time frames. Best wishes |
GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1040
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Posted - 2014.05.04 14:57:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
"The check is in the mail." "I love you, I won't hit you again." "Of course I'll pull out, I promise."
Just keeping it real.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
690
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:01:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:I know how hard is to listen to people frustation (I really do...)
And this is why I do not envy women... all kinds of burdens to carry around.
Mr. CCP wrote:I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
Can you people PLEASE do something to keep everyone from leaving Dust? I'm one of the only ones left!!!
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
221
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:08:00 -
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Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light! |
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1040
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:09:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:
- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
But you did see plans to split the dev team right?
You did see the reduced dev cycle and no substantial content right?
You did see that there was no content about Dust at Fanfest correct?
Part of the team has been working on Legion for some months, and you still need another month to figure out what to do about the game that up until a couple of days ago had paying customers? It never seemed prudent to have that discussion amongst yourselves at some point before now?
The amount of hubris involved in making your post is vast. Just tell Hilmar to draft a new apology letter, he can use the form from the Incarna debacle, and move on.
Every day you are willing to accept money for a game that you know has no realistic chance of ever becoming what is advertised is an affront to good customer relations.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs
38
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:16:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Megan Steel wrote:I know how hard is to listen to people frustation (I really do...)
And this is why I do not envy women... all kinds of burdens to carry around. Mr. CCP wrote:I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. Can you people PLEASE do something to keep everyone from leaving Dust? I'm one of the only ones left!!!
Well, lol my other char was banned (Necandi Brasil) So I'm using my fiance's toon to post...
Also, as I mentioned... plans for a transition need to be a priority... things must be created for Legion with this in mind...
I was banned ...
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ugg reset
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:23:00 -
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Quote: - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
this just grinds my insides.
it's likes seeing a good friend I've made over the past year and a half slip in and out of a coma and having the Doc say, don't worry I have no intention of pulling the plug I have firmly grasped in my hand.
Dust isn't dead, it's pointless.
Thr33 is the magic number.
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Mr Sanchez Asst
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:31:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST c For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer);
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. Once again CCP does not get it. Remember, Saberwing, the parts in the OP where he stated the text was bold for emphasis? That the same part that is causing players to leave not just Dust but all of ccp's products
CCP, as a company, has made clear through it's actions ( and despite its constant denials and empty reassurances ) that players are not valued as loyal customers. Instead, players are to be treated as a resource - a wellspring of cash that must be extracted through whatever business model your new executives deem most efficient.
CCP, you have misled, deceived, failed to inform or interact with the players of DUST who stayed with you through the most difficult times. We, who gave you our time, commitment and hard earned money. We helped make dust and CCP a viable force in this new market - we are the customers you have mistreated to a deplorable degree.
For the record and to silence the idiots: Legion is the right way to go. It's the only reasonable direction for the game and the company.
Do not confuse my drastic and emotional reaction to ccp's terrible business practices over the past several months as unhappiness with thier direction. I have always advocated for fair and reasonable communication from devs to players.
If we had ever been offered that I would still be a customer.
But CCP decided that the petty dollars they could bleed from us by not communicating would be of more value then continued customer loyalty. Fine- Rouge has decided the price he will charge CCP for short term cash. And many players will no longer be CCP customers.
And because its clear from thier comtinued lack of attention or focus on this - the customer loyalty aspect and terrible communication - that CCP intends to keep this the status quo, I intend to never offer them more of my time or money in support of thier business |
rpastry
The Rainbow Effect
169
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:48:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote: - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
SO; quafe suit promos.... anyting else? nah didnt think so.
Congrats we've been suckered along by your plans for the future for two years.
I'm sure a few gullible souls out there still believe.
[Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3019
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:52:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. Hard to do a char transfer? Actually not really cause i highly assume that Legion will be played on Tranquility server. So if you make a new account for Legion just link your PSN (like you do now with the forum login) and then the dust chars are getting added to the legion account. |
Davy Headhunter
Pradox One Proficiency V.
37
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:52:00 -
[27] - Quote
MR-NASTY wrote:Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light!
I constantly see people bringing that HACK subject into the discussion. This will CERTANTLY NOT BE AN ISSUE. Remember that this is a permanent game with permanent characters and with PERMANENT BANS, imagine if any1 with more than a few weeks of gameplay would use anykind of hack and have the risk to get banned?? i am completely sure that hacks will never be a problem in legion. |
Meknow Intaki
275
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Posted - 2014.05.04 15:56:00 -
[28] - Quote
Fool me once shame on you! Fool me twice shame on me!!
You can go suck a lemon you CCP worms!!! |
Scrub Zero
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
359
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:02:00 -
[29] - Quote
Chunky Munkey wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Megan Steel wrote: 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received
The bad reaction is due to the HORRIBLE way they presented everything. Assuming they get their heads on straight and lay out a clear plan for BOTH games Legion will most likely have a good reception. Mate you need to change your sig. I seriously can't read anything you post.
I feel like a cat watching a mouse.... I just want to jump IT! EDIT: If you get REALLY REALLY close to the screen, it becomes 3D.............. The new dust VR has arrived!
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
372
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:05:00 -
[30] - Quote
Mr Sanchez Asst wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST c For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer);
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. Once again CCP does not get it. Remember, Saberwing, the parts in the OP where he stated the text was bold for emphasis? That the same part that is causing players to leave not just Dust but all of ccp's products CCP, as a company, has made clear through it's actions ( and despite its constant denials and empty reassurances ) that players are not valued as loyal customers. Instead, players are to be treated as a resource - a wellspring of cash that must be extracted through whatever business model your new executives deem most efficient. CCP, you have misled, deceived, failed to inform or interact with the players of DUST who stayed with you through the most difficult times. We, who gave you our time, commitment and hard earned money. We helped make dust and CCP a viable force in this new market - we are the customers you have mistreated to a deplorable degree. For the record and to silence the idiots: Legion is the right way to go. It's the only reasonable direction for the game and the company. Do not confuse my drastic and emotional reaction to ccp's terrible business practices over the past several months as unhappiness with thier direction. I have always advocated for fair and reasonable communication from devs to players. If we had ever been offered that I would still be a customer. But CCP decided that the petty dollars they could bleed from us by not communicating would be of more value then continued customer loyalty. Fine- Rouge has decided the price he will charge CCP for short term cash. And many players will no longer be CCP customers. And because its clear from thier comtinued lack of attention or focus on this - the customer loyalty aspect and terrible communication - that CCP intends to keep this the status quo, I intend to never offer them more of my time or money in support of thier business I wish I could like this to infinity. |
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Deamonwrath21 DeathReign
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
5
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:12:00 -
[31] - Quote
Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2558
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:26:00 -
[32] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:- Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :)
I understand that this is difficult. But I want you to keep one thing in mind: The stuff we spent money on. Meaning mainly SP and BPOs.
Now I guess that especially BPOs will be difficult to transfer over. So I would be fine with getting a single memorial suit. Something like a "'Dust' Memorial Suit" Would be nice if it's something good and would be in line with creating an emotional bond with the suit. So a rare prototype suit, but unspecialized. So it's something that won't make you better in the long run. But that's no must. For all of the other BPOs, as much as I like them, I think it would be fine to either convert them back to Aurum or make them Eve Online items, to be used to create Legion Gear. I mean the original vision was for Eve players to create the gear we use in Dust (so now in Legion), wasn't it? That would be a start to get that part of the Industry in Eve starting.
SP will be very difficult due to the new Skilltree. But please make sure we don't get the short end. Especially because that's probably the part most players spent most of their money on. I can't say much about how that would work, because you haven't told us yet how getting SP will work in Legion. Players currently being able to use specialized Proto Dropsuits and Proto weapons will expect to be able to use that stuff instantly with their character in Legion. And for skills that don't exist it would probably a good idea to give the players these SP into a "Unspent SP"-Pool.
Besides that let it be known that we really look forward to Legion. We're just concerned about our characters.
Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
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Aderek
Bezimienni...
84
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:27:00 -
[33] - Quote
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon
One question: is Dust commercial fail? So, if you plain Legion to PC, what with PS4?
I now downloading PS2.... |
MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
223
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:29:00 -
[34] - Quote
Davy Headhunter wrote:MR-NASTY wrote:Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light! I constantly see people bringing that HACK subject into the discussion. This will CERTANTLY NOT BE AN ISSUE. Remember that this is a permanent game with permanent characters and with PERMANENT BANS, imagine if any1 with more than a few weeks of gameplay would use anykind of hack and have the risk to get banned?? i am completely sure that hacks will never be a problem in legion.
The game will also be free to play allowing you to create dozens of characters, it cerrtianel won't matter how long your character has been around you will be a hero slayer with an aimbot.
Imagine a large battle against an impossible corp like AE or team players. You hire your alt corp of hackers to go in there and shoot face.you win with day one levels alts who cares if you loose them.
Let's face it the griefing tears is all most eve players would do it for anyway.
Aimbots are very hard to detect because they build in a missed shot and other inconsitincies so you would be ahrd pressed to know if they are just that good naturally.
Tell me how your ideas will stop this from happening? |
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:32:00 -
[35] - Quote
GeneralButtNaked wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:
- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
But you did see plans to split the dev team right? You did see the reduced dev cycle and no substantial content right? You did see that there was no content about Dust at Fanfest correct? Part of the team has been working on Legion for some months, and you still need another month to figure out what to do about the game that up until a couple of days ago had paying customers? It never seemed prudent to have that discussion amongst yourselves at some point before now? The amount of hubris involved in making your post is vast. Just tell Hilmar to draft a new apology letter, he can use the form from the Incarna debacle, and move on. Every day you are willing to accept money for a game that you know has no realistic chance of ever becoming what is advertised is an affront to good customer relations. true they better change their minds and announce for ps4 at e3 2014 next moth to cool their fans heads and mine, im enraged and can barely play dust today with excitement , and i loved and was very dedicated to dust
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Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
275
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:38:00 -
[36] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
You made an official presentation of a non green lighted project ? This i cant compute ! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8302
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:44:00 -
[37] - Quote
MR-NASTY wrote:Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light!
OMG, DUDE! Seriously, hacks and cheaters are everywhere regardless. Don't make it seem that somehow there can be a guarantee that hackers and cheaters won't affect the game. That will never happen. Not in a million years. That's like saying somehow Apple computers are immune to hacks compared to regular PC computers. Games, no matter which platform you choose, will always see hackers and cheaters. Again, I want to remind everyone that consoles are still technically PCs only that they are downsized versions.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Deamonwrath21 DeathReign
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:45:00 -
[38] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. Listen dude if no ps4 new at e3 2014 you will losd you fans for dust/project legion to planetside 2, you can atleast say what planetside 2 did, yhat its definitely gonna be on ps4 then wait a lil till its ready. One never give console gamers a game then weaken it, the take same game with upgrades and take it to pc your planing ccps death bed- look at square enix hint hint. Well i loved dust just anounce for ps4 soon or at e3 or me and many others will move to planetside 2, we will not buy a gaming pc just for a project legion when i have a PlayStation 4 for 400$, oh ty for letting me down i have a ps4 with high hopes for dust on PlayStation 4 and that was killed, you guys got till e3 . Oh yea your precious project legion looks further in development than yall say. So i expect a e3 2014 anouncement |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
553
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Posted - 2014.05.04 16:50:00 -
[39] - Quote
I want Project Legion!
Cant wait for the alpha / beta`s it will be like the old days of DUST all over again! Only this time the game will have a solid foundation to begin with (Assuming lessons learned from DUST514 are taken onboard which I assume they will)
Markdown:
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Jebus McKing
Sinister Souls
427
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:02:00 -
[40] - Quote
MR-NASTY wrote:Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light!
LOL. 'Aim-assist' and passive scanning in Dust are closer to aim- bots and wallhacks than anything I see on the PC games I play.
@JebusMcKing
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Guilbert 515
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
111
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:02:00 -
[41] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:
Hi guys
I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know:
- Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet.
- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
HILMAR you are our only HOPE!
I hope he cancels of any ambitions taken from those PC fanboys at CCP and confronts them with what CCP had achieved in the past of bringing together two platforms into the same universe. Two completely different communities that emerged on PC and console. I hope atleast Hilmar realizes that PC community and console community are two completely different kind of people and players, which only have in common a love for videogames and a passion for their individual tools which is a PC OR a console. CCP should know better that players on the console will never trade places with a PC, for the same reasons why dust was initially not developed for PC. When microsoft turned their back to you, Sony supported you. They made it happen that dust could see the light. And now your turning away from those thst supported you! The same with the community, the console community supported you and joined in to cope with PC gamers, started organizing cross platformwise. Started to manage huge corporations and alliances on the console.
At you SABERWING, Im deeply dissatisfied with your qualities as a community manager! - First of all you dont seem to have a clue what this community was seeking, heck you dont even seem to have noticed that this is a mainly console community for that matter! - Second of all you never tryed to any extend to get into contact or a relationship towards the core of this community, - Third you dont seem to have a clue what the vision of dust514 was and in turn brought players of the console platform to join into that vision. Im calling in a vote to remove you from dust514 and move over to your pc fanboys. Take CCP Rouge with you while your at it, if he cant see the vision of cross platform gaming happen and is only focussing on a PC version.
I dont know how PC fanboys made it into CPM or made it happen to turn the future of dust from cross platform gaming into single platform. If you have had representatives from the actual dust 514 community, i am hundert percent sure that none would have agreed to give you any support on your brainless legion approach. You want to push legion faster? Go ahead! All you gonna achieve, if at all, is to start a new FPS community on the PC. But those people your talking to right now, except of the pc fanboys thst wont stfu, will not follow you on your selfish path. These people here the dust community are made of players that wont spent money on a high end PC to expect the same performance in gameplay as a console. And dont even think you can mix PC Fps players with console FPS players, we are not going to battle dissillusioned PC players that do 360s aimhack wallhack the **** out of a game.
Hilmar please! Read the forums! Stop reading the EVE Forums and start listening to the console fans of new eden whos entire world is about to be destroyed by a few PC fanboys in your own company!
"Please fix drop uplink spam"
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
173
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:03:00 -
[42] - Quote
Gelhad Thremyr wrote: You made an official presentation of a non green lighted project ? This i cant compute !
They did the same with EVE VR, which now became EVE Valkyrie. After thinking about it, I think they made the correct decision: informed us early in the process, and requested feedback. The only screwup was the giant mistake to announce it on Fanfest (and the Dust keynote to boot)
Saberwing, I think CCP made the right decision, and Legion is were mercs on the ground will flourish. Just make SURE the project is green lit, and I (and many other) in the community will help you make the best game possible. If it gets a no-go, that will be the end of a dream, and we are left with nothing.
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chill amarr
Austrian Tactical Hacker Corp
14
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Posted - 2014.05.04 17:13:00 -
[43] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2053812#post2053812
does fully committed means for u that u next have to take devs for another game and dust just getting stuff for next3months or so?? also you werent able to even give us a hint if u knew that this would happen next, but told us to look foreward to fanfest in the same post were u were telling us DUST is save, DUST , not legion, just wanna know your word on this |
Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
74
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:41:00 -
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Guilbert 515 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:
Hi guys
I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know:
- Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet.
- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
HILMAR you are our only HOPE! I hope he cancels of any ambitions taken from those PC fanboys at CCP and confronts them with what CCP had achieved in the past of bringing together two platforms into the same universe. Two completely different communities that emerged on PC and console. I hope atleast Hilmar realizes that PC community and console community are two completely different kind of people and players, which only have in common a love for videogames and a passion for their individual tools which is a PC OR a console. CCP should know better that players on the console will never trade places with a PC, for the same reasons why dust was initially not developed for PC. When microsoft turned their back to you, Sony supported you. They made it happen that dust could see the light. And now your turning away from those thst supported you! The same with the community, the console community supported you and joined in to cope with PC gamers, started organizing cross platformwise. Started to manage huge corporations and alliances on the console. At you SABERWING, Im deeply dissatisfied with your qualities as a community manager! - First of all you dont seem to have a clue what this community was seeking, heck you dont even seem to have noticed that this is a mainly console community for that matter! - Second of all you never tryed to any extend to get into contact or a relationship towards the core of this community, - Third you dont seem to have a clue what the vision of dust514 was and in turn brought players of the console platform to join into that vision. Im calling in a vote to remove you from dust514 and move over to your pc fanboys. Take CCP Rouge with you while your at it, if he cant see the vision of cross platform gaming happen and is only focussing on a PC version. I dont know how PC fanboys made it into CPM or made it happen to turn the future of dust from cross platform gaming into single platform. If you have had representatives from the actual dust 514 community, i am hundert percent sure that none would have agreed to give you any support on your brainless legion approach. You want to push legion faster? Go ahead! All you gonna achieve, if at all, is to start a new FPS community on the PC. But those people your talking to right now, except of the pc fanboys thst wont stfu, will not follow you on your selfish path. These people here the dust community are made of players that wont spent money on a high end PC to expect the same performance in gameplay as a console. And dont even think you can mix PC Fps players with console FPS players, we are not going to battle dissillusioned PC players that do 360s aimhack wallhack the **** out of a game. Hilmar please! Read the forums! Stop reading the EVE Forums and start listening to the console fans of new eden whos entire world is about to be destroyed by a few PC fanboys in your own company!
I am so down for voting Saberwing and Rogue out of the Dust community and over to EVE where they belong. Also, a revote for the CPM to get the PC fanboys out and get people into the CPM and CCP that actually want to have the game be cross-platform. |
Doctor Day
EoN Minmatar
251
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:43:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
HAHHAHAHA PUNY FKING HUMAN
Destiny will be 100000X better than Dust 514 and Legion Dont be hattin on it
Bouncy bouncy bouncy more bonucy o.o
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Roy Xkillerz
Red Star. EoN.
33
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:49:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
I really like this project and hope the dreams gets real I like the 1 platform idea and possiblitys on the pc are endless. |
thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
342
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:49:00 -
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Doctor Day wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
HAHHAHAHA PUNY FKING HUMAN Destiny will be 100000X better than Dust 514 and Legion Dont be hattin on it
I can't read your post because of ur sig.
I keep getting distracted.....
CCP DONT **ing FORGET ABOUT THE PS3 USERS!
Just give me something to play with!!
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Nstomper
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
543
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Posted - 2014.05.04 18:58:00 -
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i think im all burnt out on questions :( been asking questions forever
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deezy dabest
Warpoint Sharx
464
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:00:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:i think im all burnt out on questions :( been asking questions forever
To ask a question infers that an answer will be given.
As far as CCP is concerned many of us stopped asking questions long ago.
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George Moros
Balkan Express Squad
343
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:18:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet.
So, you guys announced Project Legion at fanfest DUST keynote (during which, BTW, you barely mentioned DUST at all), without even being certain that Legion has a green light for production ?!?!?!
And what if Hilmar et al decide to scrap it? Do you realize that the Incarna debacle is going to look like a big success compared to the shitstorm you just unleashed, potentially for nothing?
I'm living in New Eden from 2008. During these 6 years, this is by far the most reckless and unreasonable move I've seen you pull off.
You better make Legion worth all this ruckus you just caused! If you screw this up, I'm afraid the community will never forget it. I sure won't.
Pulvereus ergo queritor.
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Vance Alken
Commando Perkone Caldari State
141
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:23:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
Really can't wait for Legion Alpha, us dusties get first dibs, right?
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DUST Fiend
The Wings of Legion
13986
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:30:00 -
[52] - Quote
Give Legion the green light GO GO GO GO
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5156
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:33:00 -
[53] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Selinate deux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:45:00 -
[54] - Quote
Why would it take so long when you already have a whole framework of Dust 514 to work with? If this is going to be at normal CCP rate, I'll be in my 30's before I see any of Legion... |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
892
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:47:00 -
[55] - Quote
CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
If this is so early in development, why announce it at a dust 514 keynote?
And here you make it seem there will be more dust 514 development, why was this not mentioned at a Dust 514 keynote?
I do question the commitment CCP holds to Dust 514, as every indication is that nothing more will be done.
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fragmentedhackslash
Arrogance.
266
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Posted - 2014.05.04 19:48:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
Point of clarification here.
You have a 10 year development plan, roadmaps to 2.0, known issues list, vechials, weapons, etc etc etc and you don't know what is happening with DUST 514 beyond when you walk in the door?
"Few things..." "over the next few weeks... hopefully I can figure out more..."
That would be good. -_-
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5160
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Posted - 2014.05.04 20:08:00 -
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fragmentedhackslash wrote: Point of clarification here.
You have a 10 year development plan, roadmaps to 2.0, known issues list, vechials, weapons, etc etc etc and you don't know what is happening with DUST 514 beyond when you walk in the door?
"Few things..." "over the next few weeks... hopefully I can figure out more..."
That would be good. -_-
That would indeed be good, yes.
/understatement
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APOPHIS Xxx
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
40
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Posted - 2014.05.04 20:49:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Hey guys, Since we were all caught of guard by CCP announcement and this, in the process, enraged 90% of the community, now we need them to work harder than ever to deliver us the Project Legion stuff.
Few questions need to be answered in my opinion, since it will decide most of the DUST community future.
For the next weeks; 1) Is Project Legion a "go" or "no go" after the bad reaction it received; 2) How will character transfer work ? Will it really occur ? (This question is the most needed one... since those who plan playing Legion will start gathering resources or trainning based on this answer); 3) How long do you plan the DUST 514 servers to run?
For the next few months 1) Specs required to run the future project (Similar to EVE ? TO PS2?), Since people need time to plan a purchase of a rig; 2) SOLID timeframe for Alpha/Beta start. How long till the conclusion of the project? We need REAL progress tracking and dev blogs at least 2 per month to keep us updated.
The "Don't do this again to us" List: 1) Leave us in the dark; 2) Change projects without consulting us first; 3) Booster sales in a dying game (This was the most absurd thing IMO. I have 1 year of passive booster connected...all for nothing); 4) Specially this one... DO NOT LIE TO US ANYMORE !(LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3 means LASER FOCUSED ON THE PS3... LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT MEANS LASER FOCUSED ON THE LEGION PROJECT) (The Caps is not a scream it's to get the attention)
The concept you are working is what keeps me here... I'm losing almost all my corp mates to Destiny ( that game looks like it's going to SUCK BAD! ) because of this decision... I'm mad and needless to say ... all of us are.
Also, please don't delete this topic saying this is a rant... this is a demand ... not a rant,
Hi guys I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: - Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. - Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) - I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. - It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. - Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
This was in development for a few months and you knew this was coming. Yet you all still put out these merc packs for people to purchase! That makes me sick! You had players go to Iceland to see the keynote speech about Dust and you speak of Legion! What the ***** is wrong with you guys?! You are all SCUMBAGS!
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drixon talaro
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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DUST Fiend wrote:Give Legion the green light GO GO GO GO
dude shut up allready we get it, you make love to your pc.... get off of here and go make a legion forum for god sakes |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
4026
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:13:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys.
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Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
75
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:17:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys.
Why don't you address everyone else's concerns? Are you just selectively deciding who to respond to based on how eager they are to have a PC game instead of having Dust's vision realized and have it integrated into the EVE universe? Do you even care about Dust 514?
Why is all this legion crap on the Dust forums anyways? |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2042
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:26:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Please take this Legion talk to the Locker Room as this is the General Discussion for Dust 514.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:30:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Why don't you address everyone else's concerns? Are you just selectively deciding who to respond to based on how eager they are to have a PC game instead of having Dust's vision realized and have it integrated into the EVE universe? Do you even care about Dust 514? Why is all this legion crap on the Dust forums anyways? He is literally the rookie here. He has no say on what is going on, and he is told what he is allowed to say.
You know how you have a bunch of pieces of garbage pulling the strings and then they put out someone from PR to catch the flak and be that sacrificial lamb?
Yep that is CCP Sabrewing, I just hope he is trying to get out of there ASAP.
CCP CMDwang probably knew that he was going to be vilified and scapegoated purely by virtue of being the public face, and so he left.
All of your hatred and vitriol should be centerd at the CPM, CCP Rouge, and Hilmar.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:31:00 -
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Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon
Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
5291
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:31:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hi guys
I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: Cool. You have less than 24 hours left before the real riots hit if we don't have an official response in the sticky thread. You have less than a week to give us a LOT of straight answers to the questions we're ACTUALLY ASKING. Make sure Rouge knows.
Quote:- Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. But it's far enough that you've removed most of the dev team from DUST already to work on it? Whose lunatic idea was that one?
Quote:- Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) This should MOST DEFINITELY have been THE ABSOLUTE FIRST STEP BEFORE SITTING DOWN AND STARTING DEVELOPMENT.
Quote:- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. Just because you're not shutting it down yet, doesn't mean this announcement hasn't effectively killed the game. Particularly with confirmation that many things which the PS3 CAN HANDLE have been CONFIRMED as scrapped for DUST, but will be coming to Legion (if it pans out).
Quote:- It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. Totally understandable, but not one of the major concerns that need addressing URGENTLY. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:32:00 -
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Quote:- Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Again, totally understandable.
Quote:Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. You say it was difficult to remain closed-lipped. I say YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE KEPT QUIET.
This was NOT how an announcement like this should have been handled. EVERY SINGLE PERSON who knew about this before Fanfest has FAILED the community with the decision to remain quiet.
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
You, other CCP employees, CPM, E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E.
YOU. ALL. SCREWED. UP.
Apologies all around are important here, and definitely not the least of what needs to happen to make this right. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1680
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:34:00 -
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Khan Hun wrote: It'd be mad not to go ahead with it. Sooner it gets done the better!
high-def dust changes things?
what part of that demonstration was what you consider to be 'emergent gameplay'? was it the fake orbitals going off in the background?
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:59:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Why don't you move back to the skill system this game had in closed beta? You told us you had to change it becuase it was too PC and console gamers didn't understand it. Now you are moving to PC and going with the leveling system from halo 4. Shame on you.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest. Oh boy powerpoint graphics
Crazy space 1 for CPM1
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Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
76
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest.
Why are you on the CPM again? That's not a very good answer. CCP has said that they don't even know what the specs are going to be. They don't even know if it will be green-lit by Hilmar et al. |
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1684
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest.
we did. we've seen graphics before. what part of that demo was the good part? the fake orbital effects in the back-ground?
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chill amarr
Austrian Tactical Hacker Corp
19
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:50:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Please take this Legion talk to the Locker Room as this is the General Discussion for Dust 514. this
but when u there, what about asking about the real things the community want to know???just browse through the last days forum, u should find it all as community manager or something like that (and as we saw u all dont real know any of us, so give us feedback what u ask before u there)
most people want clarify about your choise to go to pc or to let dusties come to fanfest with u knowing theres not real a thing for them, many other are really really important for u to awnser if u wanna holt ab bit more of this community
for me i wanna know whats about thegame dust. also what about isk?? still on list to trade from dust to eve or even valkyrie someday?? are we still getting real new stuff like maps/modes or finally all vehicles (if no at least the old ones pls), or do we just getting balancement and hotfixes?? open market? 1.9 on ps3 relevant or not? |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
578
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:59:00 -
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thanks saber. much appericated. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
612
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Davy Headhunter wrote:MR-NASTY wrote:Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light! I constantly see people bringing that HACK subject into the discussion. This will CERTANTLY NOT BE AN ISSUE. Remember that this is a permanent game with permanent characters and with PERMANENT BANS, imagine if any1 with more than a few weeks of gameplay would use anykind of hack and have the risk to get banned?? i am completely sure that hacks will never be a problem in legion.
You haven't played many F2P FPSes have you... |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:39:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest. Why are you on the CPM again? Again? o_O
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
200
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:45:00 -
[76] - Quote
EXACTLY how much (if any) support can we expect to see for THIS GAME (you remember this game, don't you? Dust514?) and for how long? |
Skylight Atoma
The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs
5
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:53:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest Quote from Nova Knife's blog: Nova Knife wrote:We had countless meetings regarding messaging and how and when to unveil "Project" Legion. Among the very first things we said to CCP, was an emphatic, and unanimous;
"DO NOT WAIT UNTIL FANFEST TO TELL PEOPLE. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TELL PEOPLE AT FANFEST"
I'll be brief and keep the negativity to a minimum.
I'm absolutely looking forward to Legion, and I assumed this was going to happen at some point.
However, there is a worrisome trend of consistently keeping us in the dark while you keep saying "we want to develop this game with you." It feels like you have your own plans and take even the best constructive feedback with a grain of salt. |
Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
15
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:51:00 -
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Mr Sanchez Asst wrote:But CCP decided that the petty dollars they could bleed from us by not communicating would be of more value then continued customer loyalty. Fine- Rouge has decided the price he will charge CCP for short term cash. And many players will no longer be CCP customers.
Nice man. Cool to hear some sense.
Why stop at simply not giving them money, when you could let people know how they operate their MMO's and prevent their custom also? A handful of short-sighted gamers might have so much invested in this game that they have lost all reason and foresight, but new players are gonna know about this and think twice before they get invested themselves. |
Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
15
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:54:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:EXACTLY how much (if any) support can we expect to see for THIS GAME (you remember this game, don't you? Dust514?) and for how long?
In some interview in a polygon article somebody implied that they will support it as long as people are spending money on it. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:54:00 -
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Harold Junk wrote:Mr Sanchez Asst wrote:But CCP decided that the petty dollars they could bleed from us by not communicating would be of more value then continued customer loyalty. Fine- Rouge has decided the price he will charge CCP for short term cash. And many players will no longer be CCP customers. Nice man. Cool to hear some sense. Why stop at simply not giving them money, when you could let people know how they operate their MMO's and prevent their custom also? A handful of short-sighted gamers might have so much invested in this game that they have lost all reason and foresight, but new players are gonna know about this and think twice before they get invested themselves. You forgot to mention that Sony are refunding players who bought into the lies. They're playing damage control better than CCP right now. |
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Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
15
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:56:00 -
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I heard that was only the past 90 days. |
Jace Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:21:00 -
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Thanks for answering these, but here is the real problem.
CCP Saberwing wrote:
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
Right there.
You guys shattered most of our trust with that announcement. I don't feel safe putting money into ANYTHING CCP makes now.
You have given us absolutely no reason to trust you ever since open beta.
This is why we are so skeptical about this, and why many are jumping ship.
All we get from you guys is promises that turn into lies, and an endless chorus of "Trust Us!"
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1439
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:12:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Since the debacle, it now looks like CCP has no choice but to give Legion the green light. They said they will be able to get our character stats ported over to Legion so now the only concerns about that part is the "When" and "How".
Also, there needs to be an incentive for console-only players to get a gaming PC. I'm sure almost every console player out there has a PC already, but how many are gaming rigs in particular? I personally only have an old Dell 1545 laptop that I got back in 2005 or 2006, and I only managed to afford that because of income taxes.
We are the 514, and we will not forget
RIP Dust
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Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
79
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:42:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Rami Hamilo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest. Why are you on the CPM again? Again? o_O
Well, not again again. More like 'why were you elected, again' sort of way. He gave a pretty ****** answer to the question. |
Ankbar Latrommi
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CCP Saberwing wrote:- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
With a quote like that, I seriously can't take you as either an intelligent person or an honest person with the players' interests at heart. Stop telling us what you've been told to and use your own head--there is no way this game will continue on in any meaningful way in a very short time. You should seriously put some of your own personal money on the line, keep you honest and reasonable.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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