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Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:17:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys.
Why don't you address everyone else's concerns? Are you just selectively deciding who to respond to based on how eager they are to have a PC game instead of having Dust's vision realized and have it integrated into the EVE universe? Do you even care about Dust 514?
Why is all this legion crap on the Dust forums anyways? |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:26:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Please take this Legion talk to the Locker Room as this is the General Discussion for Dust 514.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:30:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Why don't you address everyone else's concerns? Are you just selectively deciding who to respond to based on how eager they are to have a PC game instead of having Dust's vision realized and have it integrated into the EVE universe? Do you even care about Dust 514? Why is all this legion crap on the Dust forums anyways? He is literally the rookie here. He has no say on what is going on, and he is told what he is allowed to say.
You know how you have a bunch of pieces of garbage pulling the strings and then they put out someone from PR to catch the flak and be that sacrificial lamb?
Yep that is CCP Sabrewing, I just hope he is trying to get out of there ASAP.
CCP CMDwang probably knew that he was going to be vilified and scapegoated purely by virtue of being the public face, and so he left.
All of your hatred and vitriol should be centerd at the CPM, CCP Rouge, and Hilmar.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:31:00 -
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Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon
Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:31:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hi guys
I'll do what I can to answer some of your questions over the next few days. :) It's only the first day after Fanfest so I'm a little weary, but I'll do my best! Some answers for you, based on what we know: Cool. You have less than 24 hours left before the real riots hit if we don't have an official response in the sticky thread. You have less than a week to give us a LOT of straight answers to the questions we're ACTUALLY ASKING. Make sure Rouge knows.
Quote:- Project Legion will be determined to be a "go" or a "no go" when Hilmar et al. sign off on it. We obviously really want it to grow in to a real boy and become everything this game's vision is made out to be. It's not at the point in development for that call to be made just yet. But it's far enough that you've removed most of the dev team from DUST already to work on it? Whose lunatic idea was that one?
Quote:- Character transfer is a no-brainer from a conceptual standpoint, but it's specifics are difficult from a development standpoint. I understand the frustration that it wasn't made crystal clear during the keynote. Let me elaborate a little as to why it's difficult, though. As presented in CCP Z's talk, we're working super hard on developing a progression system and economy that will kick ass. So, if some things may not exist or make sense should Legion become a reality, then those items couldn't carry over (in their current form, anyway). Rest assured though, we will do what we can to preserve what is currently there and figure out solutions for what is not. That is my current understanding. :) This should MOST DEFINITELY have been THE ABSOLUTE FIRST STEP BEFORE SITTING DOWN AND STARTING DEVELOPMENT.
Quote:- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail. Just because you're not shutting it down yet, doesn't mean this announcement hasn't effectively killed the game. Particularly with confirmation that many things which the PS3 CAN HANDLE have been CONFIRMED as scrapped for DUST, but will be coming to Legion (if it pans out).
Quote:- It's too early to be able to talk about Recommend Hardware Specs, although I know that the guys are starting to pull a rough idea of these together. The game is still being heavily developed and little has been done in the way of optimization just yet, but this will obviously happen. When we have an idea of minimum specs I'll try to get them out to you. Keep poking. Totally understandable, but not one of the major concerns that need addressing URGENTLY. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:32:00 -
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Quote:- Solid timeframe for Alpha / Beta is also impossible to give right now, because the truth is that we honestly don't know until the Project is green-lit. Once that happens then we'll be able to try and formalize those plans. Again, totally understandable.
Quote:Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime. You say it was difficult to remain closed-lipped. I say YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE KEPT QUIET.
This was NOT how an announcement like this should have been handled. EVERY SINGLE PERSON who knew about this before Fanfest has FAILED the community with the decision to remain quiet.
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
You, other CCP employees, CPM, E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E.
YOU. ALL. SCREWED. UP.
Apologies all around are important here, and definitely not the least of what needs to happen to make this right. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:34:00 -
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Khan Hun wrote: It'd be mad not to go ahead with it. Sooner it gets done the better!
high-def dust changes things?
what part of that demonstration was what you consider to be 'emergent gameplay'? was it the fake orbitals going off in the background?
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.04 22:59:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote: As to the progression system, are we going to be able to give feedback on that?
I, for one, think the freedom that we have now that is also available to new players right at the start is better than a system that locks a player into just one role and doesn't allow customization till they reach the top tier.
Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Why don't you move back to the skill system this game had in closed beta? You told us you had to change it becuase it was too PC and console gamers didn't understand it. Now you are moving to PC and going with the leveling system from halo 4. Shame on you.
Crazy space 1 for CPM1
Closed beta vet
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest. Oh boy powerpoint graphics
Crazy space 1 for CPM1
Closed beta vet
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Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest.
Why are you on the CPM again? That's not a very good answer. CCP has said that they don't even know what the specs are going to be. They don't even know if it will be green-lit by Hilmar et al. |
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Deamonwrath21 DeathReign wrote:Well ccp you want demans you want the truth put it on ******* ps4, planetside 2 is huge 64 by 64 killometer maps, 2000 plus players, tons more and running on max ps settings on ps4, so i and many others demand project legion on ps4 or loose me or others very soon without a ps4 anouncement soon Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest.
we did. we've seen graphics before. what part of that demo was the good part? the fake orbital effects in the back-ground?
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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chill amarr
Austrian Tactical Hacker Corp
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:50:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Yes, 100%. I'm hoping CCP Z's presentation videos will be on YouTube at some point this week, and once I'm back in Shanghai I'll try to get some open dialogue going with him for you guys. Please take this Legion talk to the Locker Room as this is the General Discussion for Dust 514. this
but when u there, what about asking about the real things the community want to know???just browse through the last days forum, u should find it all as community manager or something like that (and as we saw u all dont real know any of us, so give us feedback what u ask before u there)
most people want clarify about your choise to go to pc or to let dusties come to fanfest with u knowing theres not real a thing for them, many other are really really important for u to awnser if u wanna holt ab bit more of this community
for me i wanna know whats about thegame dust. also what about isk?? still on list to trade from dust to eve or even valkyrie someday?? are we still getting real new stuff like maps/modes or finally all vehicles (if no at least the old ones pls), or do we just getting balancement and hotfixes?? open market? 1.9 on ps3 relevant or not? |
boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:59:00 -
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thanks saber. much appericated. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:05:00 -
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Davy Headhunter wrote:MR-NASTY wrote:Let's be honest if you can't gauarentee that Legion won't be riddled with aim bots wall hacks and mods.
DONT EVEN BOTHER making it no green light! I constantly see people bringing that HACK subject into the discussion. This will CERTANTLY NOT BE AN ISSUE. Remember that this is a permanent game with permanent characters and with PERMANENT BANS, imagine if any1 with more than a few weeks of gameplay would use anykind of hack and have the risk to get banned?? i am completely sure that hacks will never be a problem in legion.
You haven't played many F2P FPSes have you... |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:39:00 -
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Rami Hamilo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest. Why are you on the CPM again? Again? o_O
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Mojo XXXIII
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:45:00 -
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EXACTLY how much (if any) support can we expect to see for THIS GAME (you remember this game, don't you? Dust514?) and for how long? |
Skylight Atoma
The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:53:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest Quote from Nova Knife's blog: Nova Knife wrote:We had countless meetings regarding messaging and how and when to unveil "Project" Legion. Among the very first things we said to CCP, was an emphatic, and unanimous;
"DO NOT WAIT UNTIL FANFEST TO TELL PEOPLE. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TELL PEOPLE AT FANFEST"
I'll be brief and keep the negativity to a minimum.
I'm absolutely looking forward to Legion, and I assumed this was going to happen at some point.
However, there is a worrisome trend of consistently keeping us in the dark while you keep saying "we want to develop this game with you." It feels like you have your own plans and take even the best constructive feedback with a grain of salt. |
Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:51:00 -
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Mr Sanchez Asst wrote:But CCP decided that the petty dollars they could bleed from us by not communicating would be of more value then continued customer loyalty. Fine- Rouge has decided the price he will charge CCP for short term cash. And many players will no longer be CCP customers.
Nice man. Cool to hear some sense.
Why stop at simply not giving them money, when you could let people know how they operate their MMO's and prevent their custom also? A handful of short-sighted gamers might have so much invested in this game that they have lost all reason and foresight, but new players are gonna know about this and think twice before they get invested themselves. |
Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:54:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:EXACTLY how much (if any) support can we expect to see for THIS GAME (you remember this game, don't you? Dust514?) and for how long?
In some interview in a polygon article somebody implied that they will support it as long as people are spending money on it. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:54:00 -
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Harold Junk wrote:Mr Sanchez Asst wrote:But CCP decided that the petty dollars they could bleed from us by not communicating would be of more value then continued customer loyalty. Fine- Rouge has decided the price he will charge CCP for short term cash. And many players will no longer be CCP customers. Nice man. Cool to hear some sense. Why stop at simply not giving them money, when you could let people know how they operate their MMO's and prevent their custom also? A handful of short-sighted gamers might have so much invested in this game that they have lost all reason and foresight, but new players are gonna know about this and think twice before they get invested themselves. You forgot to mention that Sony are refunding players who bought into the lies. They're playing damage control better than CCP right now. |
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Harold Junk
SATAN'S SECRET SOLDIERS
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:56:00 -
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I heard that was only the past 90 days. |
Jace Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:21:00 -
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Thanks for answering these, but here is the real problem.
CCP Saberwing wrote:
Ultimately, I don't want to leave you guys in the dark. It was difficult to remain closed-lipped about the announcement of Project Legion prior to Fanfest (trust me!), but it's my intention to try and share as much as I can with you in the meantime.
Right there.
You guys shattered most of our trust with that announcement. I don't feel safe putting money into ANYTHING CCP makes now.
You have given us absolutely no reason to trust you ever since open beta.
This is why we are so skeptical about this, and why many are jumping ship.
All we get from you guys is promises that turn into lies, and an endless chorus of "Trust Us!"
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:12:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Since the debacle, it now looks like CCP has no choice but to give Legion the green light. They said they will be able to get our character stats ported over to Legion so now the only concerns about that part is the "When" and "How".
Also, there needs to be an incentive for console-only players to get a gaming PC. I'm sure almost every console player out there has a PC already, but how many are gaming rigs in particular? I personally only have an old Dell 1545 laptop that I got back in 2005 or 2006, and I only managed to afford that because of income taxes.
We are the 514, and we will not forget
RIP Dust
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Rami Hamilo
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:42:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Rami Hamilo wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Watch the Graphics Presentation from fanfest. Why are you on the CPM again? Again? o_O
Well, not again again. More like 'why were you elected, again' sort of way. He gave a pretty ****** answer to the question. |
Ankbar Latrommi
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:19:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:- I have seen no plans relating to DUST 514 shutting down at this time. We're still working on some things for it and over the next few weeks (and once I'm back in Shanghai) hopefully I can figure out more of what that will entail.
With a quote like that, I seriously can't take you as either an intelligent person or an honest person with the players' interests at heart. Stop telling us what you've been told to and use your own head--there is no way this game will continue on in any meaningful way in a very short time. You should seriously put some of your own personal money on the line, keep you honest and reasonable.
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