Less! less heat build up!!!

Indeed.

Its fine as it is, less would involve in double fully charged shots and spam.

The Assault (Plasma) Rifle had enough DPS to be a solid CQC strafing fighter, and if the Scrambler Rifle had less heat buildup (the damage nerf did more than just lower DPS donchaknow?).

The Assault (Plasma) Rifle had enough DPS to be a solid CQC strafing fighter, and if the Scrambler Rifle had less heat buildup (the damage nerf did more than just lower DPS donchaknow?).

But it's pretty balanced now. It fails to kill tanked adv gallente suits without overheating (then they kill you). I thought it should just be 20% less effective, not useless for killing them.
EDIT: Just let it shoot 5 more shots. It wouldn't be that big of a deal so it could be at least reliable.

AR is Gallente tech, hence it will forever suck.

Also a Red dot sight on the AR

The Scrambler Rifle already excels at what it's designed to do (annihilating Shield Tankers). When it becomes ineffective against Shield Tankers, then it will need adjustment. If you cannot handle the fact that you aren't able to kill Armor tankers before overheating, use the Assault Scrambler Rifle.

Sadly I've nearly given up on the community getting behind a PR buff; excluding the few like myself such as Cat Merc, Kirk, Etc. They just don't think it should be the undisputed CQC king of rifles, they don't like the idea of being at a disadvantage within 40m yet are perfectly ok with the PR being useless beyond said range.

Don't even get me started on people who say the CR is balanced or "It's the damage profile." Right... Cause that 5% is what makes it so unbearably OP close-mid range. It couldn't be the fact that it has the best DPS, Damage profile, decent range, AND has little to no downsides for both the normal burst and Assault variant.

Still thank you for posting this, perhaps there is hope.

Lawlz okay. The reason the Scrambler Rifle was considered "overpowered" or borderline at least, is because of it's insane alpha damage with the help of proficiency and damage mods. Now, since the nerf of both, the gun is very balanced. However, the gun itself is very terrible when facing heavily tanked medium frames (mostly Gallente suits). The weapon is suppose ton be weak against armor, which I agree, it should. But should you overheat almost every time when fighting a tanked Gallente. I think it should in the very least kill them before overheat BUT be incapable to kill other suits until the heat buildup decreases.
That was all...stay frosty, and happy hunting.


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The Assault (Plasma) Rifle had enough DPS to be a solid CQC strafing fighter, and if the Scrambler Rifle had less heat buildup (the damage nerf did more than just lower DPS donchaknow?).

So what exactly are you saying btw?

Are you implying that the scrambler overheat mechanic is balanced? What with it having by far the lowest damage per clip/cooldown?? (between 50-66% of the other rifles?) EDIT: incidently it is not enough to kill most militia heavies even if you land every single shot]

Or are you implying that the weapon is only really balanced on the amarr assault, and that the scrambler is pretty worthless on other suits?

Or beyond that.. are you implying that armor focused weaponry shouldn't be able to kill shield tankers in one clip?

I mean what exactly are you trying to say?

So what exactly are you saying btw?

Are you implying that the scrambler overheat mechanic is balanced? What with it having by far the lowest damage per clip/cooldown?? (between 50-66% of the other rifles?) EDIT: incidently it is not enough to kill most militia heavies even if you land every single shot]

Or are you implying that the weapon is only really balanced on the amarr assault, and that the scrambler is pretty worthless on other suits?

Or beyond that.. are you implying that armor focused weaponry shouldn't be able to kill shield tankers in one clip?

I mean what exactly are you trying to say?

Agreed. I can take out shield tankers with my Mass Driver in one barrel, and it's -20% to shields and +20% against armor. Either less heat buildup or nerf the amount of armor you get back to chromosome stats (which btw if you only read "armor" means do not change the penalty).

It's hard to guage damage before cooldown, as it implies that the user always spams R1 as hard as they can without letting the sink lower at all.

Most meaning what exactly? MLT Caldari Heavies are lunch to SCRs if they don't stack armor, and MLT Minmatar Heavies may as well be free kills against it.

If it's damage bias is extreme (20% or higher), then yes I am. Unless you are using a niche weapon and inside that niche, you should never be able to kill someone with such an extreme damage bias, as you sacrifice your effectiveness against one type of tank (Shields/Armor) for extreme effectiveness against another (Armor/Shields).

What I'm trying to say, is that Scrambler Rifles already excel at what they were designed to do, and because of this they need no adjustments.


And I can take out armor tankers with my Laser Rifle without overheating. It's not an accurate comparison, as one is a niche weapon while the other is a Rifle. Though if your killing shield tankers with MDs, it's because they either stood there and didn't seek cover (which is an issue of player incompetence) or were caught in a situation where they had a low amount of HP to the point where anything would have killed them (which is not a valid basis for any comparison)

Not to mention, the seize time on SCRs is shorter than the time it takes to empty 1 MD clip.

No, you cannot nerf armor simply because you can't handle making sacrifices. Nerfing Armor would result in a lower TTK, and as Uprising 1.4 - 1.7 showed us, is not healthy for the game.

Are you implying that the scrambler overheat mechanic is balanced? What with it having by far the lowest damage per clip/cooldown?? (between 50-66% of the other rifles?) EDIT: incidently it is not enough to kill most militia heavies even if you land every single shot]

Or are you implying that the weapon is only really balanced on the amarr assault, and that the scrambler is pretty worthless on other suits?

Or beyond that.. are you implying that armor focused weaponry shouldn't be able to kill shield tankers in one clip?

That just don't make any sense. A CR ir RR will tear through shields and armor, with no overheat. Do I have to think twice before engaging a Caldari heavy with a RR or a CR? NO! Just fire and watch them die.

The way it is now:

Yes the carthrum is a good gun on any suit, but far from OP compared to the CR or RR.

The Viziam needs the Amarr suit to be a viable option, so it can be argued that this is the way its supposed to be.

- The Viziam, a specialised gun for the dedicated Amarr player, different (hard most would say) to use but it yelds great rewrds when used by the right person wearing the right suit.

The assault SCR is for everyone else.

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Well, should i conclude; Fair enough, it is what it is!?

Or should I say: Damn! I loved that gun! Now its all gone from my fittings cause its hardly worth using and almost 2.5 M SP for the correct suit is not something I will bother with, not yet at least.

I can't decide....

This is a terrible idea! I use Caldari suits and you chew me up just fine. The only problem is the guys who think this will fix the gun. Newsflash you need to fix armor suit spam. My shields are not that high and the penalty to extenders reduces the whole reason we use shield suits.