Then please stop commenting on my threads if you're a Heavy that has no experience with Scouts or Cloaks.

And you seem to be the expert in all ?!

you can see it on the following youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Lfy7J1c4I

while you can see them most of the time while fully sprinting, there are moments were you cannot and this is on a darker map. on a brigher map everyone already knows how it looks like

beside that, if he says something like this:


then I have all rights to nail the lie.

a standing still cloaked scout right in your face: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65896/1/3p_still_cloak.png

standing still cloaked scout, 14m away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Lfy7J1c4I

all fully invisible, yet Garret Blacktroll claims he can see that

Thank you ^

nice job editing out the part where he tells me to stop defending my crutch. i said that in response to what he said, and i have played with cloaks before on my friends proto scout, i capped during the accelerated sp event for him cuz he was out of town. i never said i had no experience, i just said i dont use them. plus, half the players im playing against are using a cloak, so thats a bit more experience.

Opinions against a FOTM are always going to be unpopular.

And I was just doing the same thing pal, comments like yours are unhelpful, stupid, and incredibly annoying to anyone who wants to discuss these things.

Tell the community that HAVs are OP and nobody bats an eye, tell the community that Scouts are OP and everyone loses their minds.

I done that to stop the thread being full of pointless quotes, if you read through all the posts in which I have quoted someone, you can clearly see that I have done it in almost every single one.

No, but I can at least try help bring ideas together with balancing the suits instead of being a smartass.

But anyone who takes those descriptions literally is a joke, they're there for lore purposes, and not balancing.

No, I never said that, but thanks.

I do have experience with Scouts and Cloaks though, both on the recieving end, and the one using them.

you can see it on the following youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Lfy7J1c4I

while you can see them most of the time while fully sprinting, there are moments were you cannot and this is on a darker map. on a brigher map everyone already knows how it looks like

stuff

I see 99.9% of the Cloaks... Mostly with Chevrons on top of their hat... I chose not to tank my suits and use what i have... Like i said a billion times before ... Use the high and low slots for something other than Shield and Armor modules... Experimenting is OP, So is Squad work, Squad formation, Teamwork and Mic... Nerf it all

that wasnt my point. I am just tired to see some people throwing around false information around the forum. I also never said that I want to change cloaks although I personally would remove the dampening bonus cause damps are already more powerful than precision enhancers and with the cloak it scales through the roof.

and regarding the video, I mean when they later move around and move away, there are moments where you cannot see them because the lighting of the sun "occludes" them several times. in a bright areas this happens all the time.

translate: I am a lemming with no clue.

there is no hope for you if you say thank you to someone claiming he can see standing still cloaked scouts at 40-50m ranges and then follows with that he "knows" the actual problem

I've been running around in an Assault suit without any scanning skills on one of my alts lately. At more than 40m, I've seen a human shape standing in a corner near an objective, turned to verify and had my crosshairs light up to confirm a cloaked Scout. I've also had a few times where as I'm turning, there was a shimmer of blue and they ran off, obviously smart enough to suspect I saw them when I started to turn towards them. I haven't yet had a moment where I've turned towards what I thought I saw and NOT had something confirm a cloaker, so I'm not imagining it.

The problem with cloak is that there are glitches (which aren't a balance problem) which sometimes make the shimmer either not display or vanish from a cloaked player. I don't yet know if this is something players can intentionally manipulate or not, but I have reason to suspect it is. There are also glitches which allow cloaked players to draw their weapons while remaining cloaked (not sure if CCP have fixed this yet). This means that some Shotgunners, for example, are taking their first shot BEFORE the decloak animation begins, and simultaneously with the decloak sound being played. Often the sound of your attack will drown out the decloak sound or prevent it from playing in this instance, which makes this glitch the key problem with cloaks.

When CCP can fix the bugs, which interfere with the possible judgement of balance, but which aren't themselves relevant to how something is balanced, THEN we can talk seriously about whether or not the cloak is OP.