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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.04.23 23:29:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote: ? who is CCP Legion?
I don't know but
Ccp legion --> eve legion?
Seems like to much of a coincidence
Either way, I think dust could use a renaming....but only after they tell us what 5-1-4 stands for
EDIT:  ccp legion is the head of eve legion
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.24 03:11:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:EDIT: ccp legion is the head of eve legion
uh??
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 06:09:00 -
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Why would CCP start developing a fourth game in the New Eden universe, when they just shut down a game to focus on EVE:O, Dust and Valkyrie?
Doesnt make sense business-wise to do that after reporting a loss of $21M.
HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
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KatanaPT
Tech guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.24 08:52:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:There has to be a respec if the game is re-launched! If this game relaunch...there should be a wipe, in order to let new players join. Also, bumping for blue tag
Damn right! 33mil Sp and 100mil isk here, but i would gladly see it all gone if it mean a clean fresh start.
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.24 08:58:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:So here's a thing someone discovered: http://www.trademarkia.com/eve-legion-86233018.htmlCCP have or are in the process of trademarking an online game called "EVE Legion" My thoughts are it could be a re-branding of Dust 514 for the following three reasons: 1. Dust 514 is a name that doesn't give an immediate connection to the EVE universe 2. CCP want to use a consistent product naming convention (EVE Online, EVE Valkyrie, EVE Legion) 3. Dust 514 has some bad publicity attached to it, and so losing the name could be likened to a fresh start
dust 514 as a name does have a connection its hidden in books I believe, the first Templar or some such, my apologies my knowledge of eve lore is basic....
as far as changing the name for publicity reasons, unless they fix the game it wont help.... lipstick on a pig is still a pig and all that.
this game makes me sad....
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steadyhand amarr
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Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 09:39:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Why would CCP start developing a fourth game in the New Eden universe, when they just shut down a game to focus on EVE:O, Dust and Valkyrie?
Doesnt make sense business-wise to do that after reporting a loss of $21M.
You put ccp and business sense in the same sentance when has ccp ever done somthinh that makes sense. Their whole development stratgey is. Deploy idea....see results....hotfix anything game breaking....deploy idea
Which oddly means eventully on a long enough timeline they hit gold but its deploying that gold idea that is sinking dust at the moment
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:34:00 -
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So... its like minecraft? If you dig deep enough you might find diamonds?
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X7 lion
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:43:00 -
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long shot idea: since company's tend to do there trademarks well before the announcement of the product in question, it could be a re brand for when the game is moved to ps4. (lets be honest its simply a bad idea to plan to keep dust on ps3 for more then another year-ish)
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:44:00 -
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"In the universe of DUST 514, MorduGÇÖs Legion is one of the oldest, most respected, and powerful mercenary outfits in existence. When the first cloned soldier, code-named Templar One, went rogue and broke away from his Amarr overlords, the Legion gave him sanctuary. MorduGÇÖs Legion was the first to embrace the cloned soldier not merely as a weapon, but as a human being."
HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:05:00 -
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All 1st and 2nd gen mercs hold the legion in high regard. Its also possable that ccp is shoving all its pve content into its own branded game
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... its like minecraft? If you dig deep enough you might find diamonds?
You know something, don't you?
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:41:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... its like minecraft? If you dig deep enough you might find diamonds? You know something, don't you?
Yes he does. 
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:41:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... its like minecraft? If you dig deep enough you might find diamonds? You know something, don't you?
Proably yes but i think his comment was aimed at mine :-P.
Though mercs protecting mineing sites has a cool vibe
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... its like minecraft? If you dig deep enough you might find diamonds?
Given the state of meaningful communication atm, i'd have to say it's more like Dwarf Fortress.
I support SP rollover.
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Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... its like minecraft? If you dig deep enough you might find diamonds?
something tells me you know things we do not know
and I'm envious... 
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:13:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Why would CCP start developing a fourth game in the New Eden universe, when they just shut down a game to focus on EVE:O, Dust and Valkyrie?
Doesnt make sense business-wise to do that after reporting a loss of $21M.
Because for more than a year now their corporate strategy has been to expand on New Eden. They realized that the way people were treating New Eden as an alternate life was a huge asset that they need to expand on. The idea is to enrich that experience by adding new games that interact with that alternate universe. Not only do they get new players, but it makes the experience deeper for the players they already have.
It's basically a switch from selling a game to selling an experience. if they pull it off successfully then other game developers will have a hard time competing with the New Eden games, because they'll be fundamentally different. It's like I've been saying for ages now, Dust isn't meant to compete with Call of Duty. The selling point of this game is the connection to the New Eden universe and the results of your matches meaning something more than stroking your epeen (which people get bored of quickly). They haven't delivered on that part yet really, but they're getting there. Once they do, comparing Dust and a traditional shooter would be like comparing Skyrim and The Elder Scrolls Online (or any single player rpg vs an MMO). Both are good games, but they offer fundamentally different experiences and aren't in competition with each other.
WOD wasn't a New Eden game and was a distraction from the plan. It also hadn't shown much progress in a long time. Also, that "loss" was simply a recognition that there wasn't any value in the product the WOD team had developed. It wasn't that their income was lower than their expenses, just that the things they owned were less valuable than they had thought. They still have cash flow. |
Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:17:00 -
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Oh, maybe they're finally getting around to the connected PC release with proper KB/M & joystick support.
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Jebus McKing
Sinister Souls
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Posted - 2014.04.24 13:18:00 -
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It is going to be a MOBA!
Because... EVERYONE LIKES MOBAS!!!1
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:04:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Remember all the talk and speculation when dust was in beta about contractual agreements with Sony holding CCP exclusive to the PS3? Some thought this was enough of a contractual protection to allow Sony to develop and grow Planetside 2 without directly competing with Dust.
What if CCP figured out a way to make a new game very much like Dust and release it on other platforms....like PC or PS4. Making a whole new game might relieve CCP of its Dust contractual restrictions.
CCP is not contractually obligated to keep Dust 514 exclusive to PS3.
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-01-theres-no-deal-preventing-dust-514-being-on-pc-xbox
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:22:00 -
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It's probably just the name of their next EVE expansion. |
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Autoaim Bot514
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:25:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It's probably just the name of their next EVE expansion.
CCP doesnt trademark expansion names.
This is going to be either: an entirely new game, such as a mobile title, or a rebranding of Dust to bring its brand inline with the other 2 games and move away from the name attached to this stinker. |
Kristoff Atruin
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:26:00 -
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They've never trademarked the name of an expansion though, so that's pretty unlikely. We also know there is another game under development which so far has been unnamed. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:27:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:It's probably just the name of their next EVE expansion.
While i thought that as well, just a basic look into more info available on that trademark site; only seperate IPs are listed as trademarked (DUST 514, VALKYRIE), not expansions like Rubicon and Oddessy.
blah.
Pro-tip: if you're the only one that understands your contextual clues, re-word them.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:44:00 -
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Good point. Not sure then.
Four things immediately come to mind though.
1. Seagull recently went on record saying that they had no plans to expand Walking in Stations content on the EVE engine due to it melting graphics cards when multiple avatars entered the picture. She did say, however, that she wants to expand the game into the WiS domain regardless without trying to force the issue onto the EVE client.
The only real possibility that leaves is a separate client altogether for WiS activities that would link as a central hub between all EVE related games. The timing does make sense, though the name does not. Then again, the name never makes sense with CCP.
2. Rebranding Dust and relaunching it on the PS4. This is very likely to happen, though I do not believe it is likely to happen under the name EVE: Legion. It has been said in the past that they want the name of their Infantry game to stand on its own, as people responded better to simply Dust 514 instead of EVE: Dust 514.
3. A single player FPS campaign. A long time ago they did work on such a game before finally conceiving Dust 514. It was a game centered around a female Gallente Mercenary. It was thought to be trashed, though I imagine a lot of that work is still lingering around the office. Having competent AI created would also allow them to import it into Dust 514 for use in PvE. Thus killing two birds with one stone, as it were.
4. CCP is going to release a Shmup where you fly around in an Amarr Legion shooting at things, but you die instantly when a single pellet hits you. |
Autoaim Bot514
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:53:00 -
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[quote=Himiko Kuronaga]
2. Rebranding Dust and relaunching it on the PS4. This is very likely to happen, though I do not believe it is likely to happen under the name EVE: Legion. It has been said in the past that they want the name of their Infantry game to stand on its own, as people responded better to simply Dust 514 instead of EVE: Dust 514.
Yea but the Dust name is tainted by negative reviews and such. All forum posts I see about it not on here call it trash and ask if anyone still plays it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.24 14:54:00 -
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I agree, it certainly is tainted.
I do believe it will be re-branded and relaunched. I just dont think it will be done under that name. |
steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.04.24 15:38:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:It is going to be a MOBA!
Because... EVERYONE LIKES MOBAS!!!1
As titen fall just proved everyone loved mobas because no matter how useless u are u can still be useful in the kill the bots kinda way :-P
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Principus Shmoof Triariian
Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:21:00 -
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DJINN Stephani wrote:If they do change the name can CCP please tell us what Dust 514 actually meant?
When the first cloned soldiers were created, they used the implants that were inside the unused bodies of 'Sleepers", an extinct race who left clones behind, idle. The implant put inside these first few immortal soldiers was part of another person, they had another person inside their head. This meant that they would hear things, and one thing that always rang in their ears was 'Dust 514', which drove some of them crazy. These problems were to disappear when they could figure out how to make the technology themselves and no longer needed to harvest Sleeper clones. What Dust 514 meant however, is lost to the world, as the Sleepers are gone.... but the Jove... the Jove might know |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:38:00 -
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Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote:DJINN Stephani wrote:If they do change the name can CCP please tell us what Dust 514 actually meant? When the first cloned soldiers were created, they used the implants that were inside the unused bodies of 'Sleepers", an extinct race who left clones behind, idle. The implant put inside these first few immortal soldiers was part of another person, they had another person inside their head. This meant that they would hear things, and one thing that always rang in their ears was 'Dust 514', which drove some of them crazy. These problems were to disappear when they could figure out how to make the technology themselves and no longer needed to harvest Sleeper clones. What Dust 514 meant however, is lost to the world, as the Sleepers are gone.... but the Jove... the Jove might know
The Jove "are" Sleepers and also dead.
Womp womp.
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.04.24 16:40:00 -
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I need to reread it but i thought jove and sleepers where diffrent races and that the jove where very very scared of the AI that controls them
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