DUST Search - sp wipe

True Adamance wrote:

steelRatt wrote:

So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe.
Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months.
This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win.

The SP advantage will always exist. There will always be those who started at the wipe and those who didn't.

Just as it is in EVE. To me all it sounds like is that you want to be at the top of the SP curve, but didn't get into Dust back when those "Leet gerks" (please in future spell it as "elitist jerks").

I am sorry if this is not true for you....but this is indeed a terrible idea.... it will not lead to balance, if that is in fact what you are concerned with, but only serve remove, amongst your elitist jerks some of the most dedicated and long standing supporters of Dust. Maybe not the truly hardcore but some who have invested a significant amount of time and into this game.

All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.

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John ShepardIII G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 218	Posted - 2014.04.20 23:40:00 - [91] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Let me guess, you don't have that much SP do you??? CEO of G0DS AM0NG MEN Join out pub channel G0DS AM0NG MEN :D
Baltazar Pontain Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 128	Posted - 2014.04.20 23:54:00 - [92] - Quote Completly not makeable and it should not be done even if possible. Reasons? Sure. The SP system is the persistence stuff and unique for CCP. Reseting would mean nullifying the persistence. Moreover they would loose any trust in gaming community. Think of all the guys that have spend over a year to get those SP. What would be the signal for EVE? Hey you have 200 Million SP but we reset that now. No sir. Third, You cannot buy SP with AURUM. You can buy boosters but nevertheless it takes real time to accumulate SP. So AURUM is not the aproparate stff to compensate what you have earned so far. Next issue, what is about the money you have spend on boosters? Can CCP find out how many boosters each player has consumed? I give it a big maybe (do not know if it is protocolled and how long). Are those booster bought from the market or due to bundles? Is that also stored? => not makeable I am pretty sure this post was only a troll but here you have some serious answers.
wiseguy12 Ancient Legion 22	Posted - 2014.04.21 00:00:00 - [93] - Quote Just give new players more sp to start with and a longer academy.Add a better tutorial. *W.I.D.O.S.* when in doubt orbital strike
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2015	Posted - 2014.04.21 00:41:00 - [94] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Let me guess, you don't have that much SP do you??? someone doesn't know how to do a player search and answer his own stupid question.... this game makes me sad....
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 160	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:59:00 - [95] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Confirming I am also a member of the "Get ******" camp. Can I have a jacket?
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 31	Posted - 2014.04.21 06:51:00 - [96] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Let me guess, you don't have that much SP do you??? I have 2 tools with over 30mil each and 4more with over 15 Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 31	Posted - 2014.04.21 06:52:00 - [97] - Quote steelRatt wrote: John ShepardIII wrote: steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Let me guess, you don't have that much SP do you??? I have 2 toons with over 30mil each and 4more with over 15 Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 157	Posted - 2014.04.21 06:53:00 - [98] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Get fucked. I didn't spend a year playing this game to 38M SP so that I could be reset a year later. Find some other way of fixing it, but don't even think about touching my SP. an unannounced ISK wipe All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9607	Posted - 2014.04.21 07:00:00 - [99] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. The SP advantage will always exist. There will always be those who started at the wipe and those who didn't. Just as it is in EVE. To me all it sounds like is that you want to be at the top of the SP curve, but didn't get into Dust back when those "Leet gerks" (please in future spell it as "elitist jerks"). I am sorry if this is not true for you....but this is indeed a terrible idea.... it will not lead to balance, if that is in fact what you are concerned with, but only serve remove, amongst your elitist jerks some of the most dedicated and long standing supporters of Dust. Maybe not the truly hardcore but some who have invested a significant amount of time and into this game. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 157	Posted - 2014.04.21 07:03:00 - [100] - Quote True Adamance wrote: steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. The SP advantage will always exist. There will always be those who started at the wipe and those who didn't. Just as it is in EVE. To me all it sounds like is that you want to be at the top of the SP curve, but didn't get into Dust back when those "Leet gerks" (please in future spell it as "elitist jerks"). I am sorry if this is not true for you....but this is indeed a terrible idea.... it will not lead to balance, if that is in fact what you are concerned with, but only serve remove, amongst your elitist jerks some of the most dedicated and long standing supporters of Dust. Maybe not the truly hardcore but some who have invested a significant amount of time and into this game. that is where an unannounced ISK wipe would be perfect. ISK is the only thing in game completely separate from AUR purchases. It would have to be unannounced so that People wouldnt stock up All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.

Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 945	Posted - 2014.04.21 08:59:00 - [101] - Quote Thread should be called 'op is an arse wipe'
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1199	Posted - 2014.04.21 09:41:00 - [102] - Quote lol i've just read some cancer post right here hahahaha OP is a cancer and should be removed YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Alena Ventrallis PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 1197	Posted - 2014.04.21 09:48:00 - [103] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Get fucked. I didn't spend a year playing this game to 38M SP so that I could be reset a year later. Find some other way of fixing it, but don't even think about touching my SP. This. That's what you get!! - DA Rick
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 32	Posted - 2014.04.21 10:25:00 - [104] - Quote steelRatt wrote: John ShepardIII wrote: steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Let me guess, you don't have that much SP do you??? I have 2 toons with over 30mil each and 4more with over 15 Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1515	Posted - 2014.04.21 12:37:00 - [105] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp How about You STFU - How about CCP gives them 100k kills and a kdr of 5.0 and w/l ratio of 10.0 while they are at it - how about give them weapons that insta zaps anything that moves - how about they give them only 3 buttons to play with L Stick, R Stick and R1... No need to aim or use equipment or anything just hold R1 and run around... Infinite ammo and so on... Some people and their Scrubberyyy has no limits...
Reaper Alim WarRavens League of Infamy 5	Posted - 2014.04.22 01:15:00 - [106] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: I don't like the idea of a sp wipe, but I would get behind a isk wipe =ƒÿü I second that and while you at it why not have CCP take the game breaking PC out of the game till it's fix. I mean players being able to lock down districts and farm them with no risk at all is what allows players to so call "Proto Stomp" every game. I mean being able to just have isk giving to you by CCP takes mad skills right? Oh also you are at it have CCP take away everybody's non BPO items aswel.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 94	Posted - 2014.04.22 01:16:00 - [107] - Quote that's a stupid idea
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3999	Posted - 2014.04.22 01:27:00 - [108] - Quote A SP wipe does not wipe away the tactics, training, and muscle memory that fierce mercs has acquired in their FPS career pre Dust and during. Meaning, if you wiped the SP and everyone started from scratch, new players still will be wiped off the map with unrelenting fury by players who has history with this game. The new player experience is that, an experience designed to teach the player about the nuances of Dust 514. It does not teach the player about tactics. Like slicing the pie behind certain covers. How to sweep left and flank when your corpmate heavy is pushing forward on the objective. This is what people constantly get the NPE confused about. I don't think the majority knows what they are asking for. The NPE can't teach a player the many tactics and maneuvers that are used to overcome hostiles in this game. That is learned or taught by others, not by a NPE. Even if you gave the new player 30m SP, don't you know how much that would be squandered and how laughable it would be for a inexperienced player in the ongoing wars of New Eden dying fast and hard due to someone else having tactical advantage over him every single time they match up? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Reaper Alim WarRavens League of Infamy 5	Posted - 2014.04.22 01:30:00 - [109] - Quote steelRatt wrote: calisk galern wrote: theirs dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now. Yes there is dozens of ways to help and off a full sp wipe is the last thing on the list all iv been hearing tho is how ccp need to do this and that to fix it we need to help em tho we can do so much more then ccp coz we are in the matches it shouldn't just be ccp it's our game we play it spend cash on it and want it to last don't we? No they don't care if it last all they care about is winning until the game dies from starvation. I mean lets face it the population on the game is so awesome and is totally not declining so we really don't need to keep new players in the game we just need to keep stomping them till the point where the game completely die and then all that money yall spent on the game will be even more useless, because they will be no one to play with other then the few 30M plus SP/4B isk hand me down players. So to you all GG cause when this game dies because the old just get off on grieving new till they don't play any more, all I got to say is I've only spent 40 USD and 8 months on this game and I won't be phased by the death of this game. Tho I would like to see the game improve. Again GG all you try-hard elitists.
Rifter7 Ancient Exiles. 396	Posted - 2014.04.22 01:31:00 - [110] - Quote no. Primus sucks.

Reaper Alim WarRavens League of Infamy 5	Posted - 2014.04.22 01:54:00 - [111] - Quote Rifter7 wrote: no. Funny you should say no. LOL Just saying.


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