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Patrick57 7108	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:49:00 - [31] - Quote steelRatt wrote: I have 47mill sp been here from the start and spent -ú500+ on this game to help this game yes I would give it all up. And all the players who wouldn't give that up will laugh at you as you still complain after your SP is reset. Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3083	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:49:00 - [32] - Quote steelRatt wrote: It's I new this post would upset players and tbh I don't care you can say how train and help players but how about the players you dont. We no ccp takes for ever to do anything we the players that have been here from the start need to lose the op ego and start making in game changes. I have 47mill sp been here from the start and spent -ú500+ on this game to help this game yes I would give it all up. Then maybe because you personally believe this to be fair on new players, you should email CCP to get your sp wiped, I'm pretty certain they'd do that. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2138	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:50:00 - [33] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I have been here since the first build in closed beta yet I only have 26m, GTFO go back too wherever you came we don't want you making our game worse.. You chose to wait this long we didn't soo bye. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2387	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:59:00 - [34] - Quote Lololololol No. I JUST hit 20mil last Thursday. Do you know how long it took me to get here?
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 438	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:59:00 - [35] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I've been here since January 1013 and that's way more than I have built up. So uh... sure, I can just biomass and waste 16 months of work and 200+ Euros spent on this game. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 25	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:07:00 - [36] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp You just lost all credibility son. Us beta vets have trained hundreds, if not thousands of players. Spent money that funds part of the games development and gave countless feedback. You are like an ungrateful child who doesn't understand what earning something means. I didn't have any to start with lol Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 581	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:12:00 - [37] - Quote I have been at this for seven months and I wouldn't want anyone to have their SP's taken from them . It doesn't make sense . If we just had a full infantry refund then I believe that would have helped a lot of players who had their who play style changed by 1.8 . That would have been the responsible thing to do and before we have the people saying that crap about choices , a lot of players skilled into items to compete from lack of choices , a lot of what happened in 1.8 changed that but players like myself , were not able to change with those changes . I was becoming a Caldari medic slash support from my logi suits and now my rep tools , scanners and other instruments are not as reliable because of the racial bonuses that now section off certain items to certain races . Some equipment even became broken . Weapons I don't need and or use because of the fact that now I have my own races weapons . Everyone doesn't cross speck into different races ... I don't . The best thing that CCP could do besides a full refund would be just to give an infantry one . It would do more help than harm , players that do the " FOTM " will get it anyway , while players who just are trying to compete will be thankful and inspired . For those who advocated against it , stop looking for reasons to hold players down by having their SP's locked into useless items while you sit on a boatload of unallocated SP's . I don't want another SP event , I would rather make good use of the SP's that I already have . New SP's and a player's market will not help me to use the SP's that are locked into useless items and are more or less dead weight . Can't claim that choices mean something while your choices are changed from the actions that helped you to make the choice in the first place , kind of defeats the purpose of choice . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Patrick57 7108	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:12:00 - [38] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I've been here since January 1013 and that's way more than I have built up. So uh... sure, I can just biomass and waste 16 months of work and 200+ Euros spent on this game. That's more than 1000 years.. :P Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3083	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:13:00 - [39] - Quote steelRatt wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp You just lost all credibility son. Us beta vets have trained hundreds, if not thousands of players. Spent money that funds part of the games development and gave countless feedback. You are like an ungrateful child who doesn't understand what earning something means. I didn't have any to start with lol I apologised for that anyway, it was a bit brash and I assumed you was a fresh newb because of the post. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 438	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:14:00 - [40] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I've been here since January 1013 and that's way more than I have built up. So uh... sure, I can just biomass and waste 16 months of work and 200+ Euros spent on this game. That's more than 1000 years.. :P Whooops, I'm old. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2783	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:24:00 - [41] - Quote I'm pretty sure you've had a resounding GTFO from this community re: SP wipes. I mean, in the end, feel free to wipe my SP. But I will be expecting a full PSN refund from CCP from the large quantity of AUR I have purchased over the last year (dat booster yo) and said refund will be followed in short order by my permanent biomassing of this character and all my others. MarasdF Loron wrote: Patrick57 wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I've been here since January 1013 and that's way more than I have built up. So uh... sure, I can just biomass and waste 16 months of work and 200+ Euros spent on this game. That's more than 1000 years.. :P Whooops, I'm old. I just want to know how you didn't manage to pull 30k over more than a millennium!! Passive on the wrong alt? ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 199	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:25:00 - [42] - Quote steelRatt wrote: It's I new this post would upset players and tbh I don't care you can say how train and help players but how about the players you dont. We no ccp takes for ever to do anything we the players that have been here from the start need to lose the op ego and start making in game changes. I have 47mill sp been here from the start and spent -ú500+ on this game to help this game yes I would give it all up. Well, considering most blueberries, new or not, are completely idiots, no, I don't feel obligated to help them. The amount of times I've seen blueberries try to shoot the MCC, or try to snipe standing up, or even those scumbag blueberries that run around and revive you in the middle of fire fights. I feel no compassion when I stomp those blueberries, cause even when I was new I was never that stupid. I'm a logi now! :D
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 26	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:26:00 - [43] - Quote It's funny how even on the forums not in game were you might lose some Fake money some peeps have to fight. Like I said it was a thought instead of constructive feed back it's all hell no iv worked for my sp. The point was to prove only a few want this game to work some of you have pointed out how much real cash and the time invested in to this game. Yet it's all down to ccp to fix so when this game is all dead at least you won that last match over the new guy.oh and you got a step closer to the top of the leaderboards. Someone even compared dust to Cod saying they don't do wipes true but they bring out a new game every 6 months.dust can be so much more yes ccp need to pull there fingers out there backsides but all the content in the world won't help if players need to win so bad they use bugs and exploits and fotm all the time. We have seen dust change so much from swarms killing the mac to redline rails now ramming DS and tanked scouts and um sure there is more to come. So please carry on rageing over this post call me all the names you want if it makes you happy. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 26	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:28:00 - [44] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: steelRatt wrote: It's I new this post would upset players and tbh I don't care you can say how train and help players but how about the players you dont. We no ccp takes for ever to do anything we the players that have been here from the start need to lose the op ego and start making in game changes. I have 47mill sp been here from the start and spent -ú500+ on this game to help this game yes I would give it all up. Well, considering most blueberries, new or not, are completely idiots, no, I don't feel obligated to help them. The amount of times I've seen blueberries try to shoot the MCC, or try to snipe standing up, or even those scumbag blueberries that run around and revive you in the middle of fire fights. I feel no compassion when I stomp those blueberries, cause even when I was new I was never that stupid. so teach em oh and your blue to them Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 966	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:35:00 - [45] - Quote Yea just refund every cent I've dumped into the game, then I'll go give it to a developer that doesn't suck. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 439	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:41:00 - [46] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I'm pretty sure you've had a resounding GTFO from this community re: SP wipes. I mean, in the end, feel free to wipe my SP. But I will be expecting a full PSN refund from CCP from the large quantity of AUR I have purchased over the last year (dat booster yo) and said refund will be followed in short order by my permanent biomassing of this character and all my others. MarasdF Loron wrote: Patrick57 wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I've been here since January 1013 and that's way more than I have built up. So uh... sure, I can just biomass and waste 16 months of work and 200+ Euros spent on this game. That's more than 1000 years.. :P Whooops, I'm old. I just want to know how you didn't manage to pull 30k over more than a millennium!! Passive on the wrong alt? I did actually make 30k, but not 30m.. :P I think CCP disabled my passive SP gain cause I had been away for way too long, and then I also heard that there were SP wipes in 2012 and 2013. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 474	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:52:00 - [47] - Quote there's many more reasons than SP that new players dont play this game. so what after 2 years are we supposed to do another wipe since you know there's a new batch of new players? this is stupid. yea because i want to keep the SP i grind for that makes me leet? this thread is beyond retrded. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1654	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:01:00 - [48] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Get fucked. I didn't spend a year playing this game to 38M SP so that I could be reset a year later. Find some other way of fixing it, but don't even think about touching my SP. still laughing at your opening statement. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 317	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:11:00 - [49] - Quote Just like the Ttk change didn't save the lower skilled sp players an sp wipe would not either. " oh! Maybe if we all start over I can hold my own since we all have the same stuff and sp! " Go ahead and qq till you get a wipe then let's see what you cry babies come up with next We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 156	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:26:00 - [50] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Pretty radical, but Id like it, even if my 20mio SPs would be gone. I think youd have to wipe all bought assets and give the ISKs/Aur worth back, too. Id reboot the ISK too, but only if the problems are fixed that let ISK rage out of control in the first place. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo

Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2139	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:26:00 - [51] - Quote The only thing that an sp wipe would do is cause the few players that are good at this game too leave. Which I bet is what you want, that way you don't get stomped anymore. I say go for it but as others have stated I want my money back and then I'll leave. We had too build up sp so why shouldn't they? Because they didn't want too play through the hard freezes, broken mechanics and other **** we went through to help this game? Instead you would rather push us away for the new players who never gave a damn about this game. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 487	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:35:00 - [52] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. CCP don't have the stones to do it. They sorta believe their own press about New Eden and HTFU so they're psychologically conditioned against doing it.
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 218	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:37:00 - [53] - Quote Make it so the new players play against other new players rather than taking them out of academy so early and putting them them in a cluster ****
Meknow Intaki 139	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:43:00 - [54] - Quote I don't like the idea of a sp wipe, but I would get behind a isk wipe =ƒÿü
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 27	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:43:00 - [55] - Quote Ccp would never delete the sp we all have and it wouldn't help the point of this post was/is if we new that it would fix the game 100% wouldn't that be a good thing. like I said looks like some don't want the game fixed coz there all here hating the thought of it Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 27	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:45:00 - [56] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Make it so the new players play against other new players rather than taking them out of academy so early and putting them them in a cluster **** agree 100% Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI 769	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:47:00 - [57] - Quote steelRatt wrote: It's funny how even on the forums not in game were you might lose some Fake money some peeps have to fight. Like I said it was a thought instead of constructive feed back it's all hell no iv worked for my sp. The point was to prove only a few want this game to work some of you have pointed out how much real cash and the time invested in to this game. Yet it's all down to ccp to fix so when this game is all dead at least you won that last match over the new guy.oh and you got a step closer to the top of the leaderboards. Someone even compared dust to Cod saying they don't do wipes true but they bring out a new game every 6 months.dust can be so much more yes ccp need to pull there fingers out there backsides but all the content in the world won't help if players need to win so bad they use bugs and exploits and fotm all the time. We have seen dust change so much from swarms killing the mac to redline rails now ramming DS and tanked scouts and um sure there is more to come. So please carry on rageing over this post call me all the names you want if it makes you happy. Dude, I seriously can't tell if you are serious or not. Are you trolling? I really can't tell. Earlier you said you would give up your 47million sp for a better NPE, just biomass yourself. I hear it is a new trend on the forums, stupid but new. Also in the quote above you mention that this thread has no constructive feedback. I'm sorry to tell you this but you can't build something sturdy with crap. I think your trolling. You are asking for people to rage. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous*
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 27	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:52:00 - [58] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: The only thing that an sp wipe would do is cause the few players that are good at this game too leave. Which I bet is what you want, that way you don't get stomped anymore. I say go for it but as others have stated I want my money back and then I'll leave. We had too build up sp so why shouldn't they? Because they didn't want too play through the hard freezes, broken mechanics and other **** we went through to help this game? Instead you would rather push us away for the new players who never gave a damn about this game. I don't want anyone to leave and don't get stomped to often and you stuck with the game this long you would leave if a sp wipe fixed the game 100% how well the new players learn to love this game like We do if some corps players can't help but stomp every match coz the thought of losing hurts so much.I was in a match we was wining tho it was close with about 5 mins left the ofter team swapped to full proto to win it was a good game even with the lose but the urge to win is so strong in some. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2140	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:56:00 - [59] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: I don't like the idea of a sp wipe, but I would get behind a isk wipe =ƒÿü Nah I grinded my 200m isk I never received a single paycheck from a corp. That's another grind I'm unwilling to do again. But I see what you did there Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 138	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:56:00 - [60] - Quote I'd find a way to file a lawsuit against CCP if they did that. I have forty million sp and as the Lord as my witness they'd feel my wrath somehow. The forgotten "A" in AAA



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