DUST Search - sp wipe

Orin the Freak wrote:

You best be trollin'. I'm so tired of all these absolutely r-tarded threads about various wipes/resets. It wouldn't even help anything.

Best case (and highly unlikely) scenario if they were to reset SP to 0, CCP manages to retain a large percentage of their current players, everyone is on an even playing field with gear for a few months, then more new guys start complaining about the proto stompers, and it all starts again. Not to mention the actual good players who will still be able to steamroll because they are just that good.

Most likely scenario if they did this, CCP alienates the few (relatively) faithful players they still have, causing them to quit since they no longer have any ties to the game, the few that actually stay think they are better off, till it takes them 5 minutes to find a match, that won't be full anyway. Then if/when new people start coming in, the few that stayed will take the place of the "idiots" who left, and the new guys will cry for a full reset because they weren't here since "the beginning"

It's a r-tarded idea, and just needs to die. I will absolutely quit if they reset our characters again. Luckily, it won't come to that, because CCP stated baring some kind of catastrophic server malfunction, there will be NO FURTHER RESETS. SP reFUNDS... perhaps. but no resets. This is an online game. HTFU. Wait for better matchmaking/more places for the "endgamers" to go. that or possibly incentives for people to NOT run proto in pub matches.

Whatever they do, a reset won't be a part of it. It's like if after the first year, Blizzard said they were going to wipe all WoW characters so the slowasses that weren't there in the beginning could "get a fair shake". No. You start late, you get ganked till you can defend yourself against those high levels. then you get to do the ganking.

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steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 23	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:43:00 - [1] - Quote So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 196	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:47:00 - [2] - Quote It's not that the so called "leet" players don't want the SP advantage, they want the versatility that they have been waiting for and building up for a year and a half. I'm a logi now! :D
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 23	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:51:00 - [3] - Quote Is that why they have to go full proto on new players for the versatility. Iv been here since closed beta to but the get some new life in the game hell. Yes take my sp Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2772	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:53:00 - [4] - Quote Get fucked. I didn't spend a year playing this game to 38M SP so that I could be reset a year later. Find some other way of fixing it, but don't even think about touching my SP. ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3514	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:55:00 - [5] - Quote Confirming I am also a member of the "Get ******" camp.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2550	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:55:00 - [6] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Lol april fools was so long ago! For the Federation!
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1423	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:57:00 - [7] - Quote If CCP gives away millions of dollars worth of AUR to the players, do you think they'll be buying any more for the next couple of years? If players aren't buying AUR, how will CCP make any money? If they're not making any money, how will they pay the salaries of the people developing the game? Or pay for servers and bandwidth to run the game? Best PvE idea ever!
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3517	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:59:00 - [8] - Quote I had to suffer this games beta and horrible early aiming/not aiming mechanics and memory leaks. Proto stomping is nowhere near as bad as those early issues. New players can suffer, and I hope they do.
Khan Hun Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 85	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:59:00 - [9] - Quote This would upset loads of people and be totally pointless. In another years time, do you suggest another reset? What would be the point of SPs at all if the only way to create a half decent NPE is to wipe them every year? CCP needs to create a NPE that eases new players into the game fairly with fun matches and makes them want to play to build up their own SP to be competitive with the vets, instead of throwing them into a vet-run meat grinder. Thats the only way dust will work as a game long term.
Kalante Schiffer 542	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:03:00 - [10] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. sure cuz screw all the ppl who have spent over $200 dollars on the game you know... the "leet tryhards" who actually have supported the game since chromosome and even before then. PSN:MWsRAGE_5

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3439	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:08:00 - [11] - Quote I have 50mil SP I aint giving that up
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 25	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:14:00 - [12] - Quote Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3439	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:15:00 - [13] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp No thats more than some players who started 12months ago You know how long it takes to get 30mil SP?
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1205	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:17:00 - [14] - Quote Well, here's the problem: I have as much SP as I do because I have used boosters. If a wipe happens, I would want AUR equal to the amount I put in. They can't just say "Nope!" because that is real money for me. Want to alienate and essentially leave an indelible black mark on your product? Do just that. Also, an SP wipe does nothing for the NPE because in a year you have the same thing. Say you completely wipe, which IS going to cause a lot of people to stop playing because they would be furious, and you get people coming it. In a year's time, you have the 'new people' with 40 million SP. People would have tens of millions of SP and the real new player would be screwed. An SP wipe does nothing for the new player and will just infuriate every single player. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3080	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:18:00 - [15] - Quote I have spent over -ú1000 on this game. So long as I'd get refunded, I'd be happy for two randoms who'd probably quit anyway to take my place defo. A lot of that is still in usable assets so I'd want and expect a refund proportional to what I have In aurum suits, equipment, weapons, grenades and vehicles. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
yep derrith again Shining Flame Amarr Empire 191	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:19:00 - [16] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp NO!! All us chrome vets and no lifers worked our butts off to get our sp count. Why should some new guy who didn't support this game and play it through good, and uprising (bad) get a free ride because they can't learn the hard way that we all did? Official DNS alt The official panty monk of FA.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 25	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:19:00 - [17] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. sure cuz screw all the ppl who have spent over $200 dollars on the game you know... the "leet tryhards" who actually have supported the game since chromosome and even before then. Is that all iv spent over -ú500 but I like this game I want it to improve I'm willing to do whatever to make that happen fyi I'm a tryhard to Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3080	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:20:00 - [18] - Quote Also an sp wipe would drive away the players who know this games potential and then usher in people who probably haven't even heard of eve and thus quit anyway. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Kalante Schiffer 542	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:20:00 - [19] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp how about you biomass all your charcters and sell your ps3. 30m sp making a starter alt with out any effort gtfo. PSN:MWsRAGE_5
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3080	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:23:00 - [20] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp You just lost all credibility son. Us beta vets have trained hundreds, if not thousands of players. Spent money that funds part of the games development and gave countless feedback. You are like an ungrateful child who doesn't understand what earning something means. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3518	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:24:00 - [21] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp No. Earn your damn keep.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1109	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:26:00 - [22] - Quote **** me, do you have any idea how long its taken me to get my dropship where it is?! No thanks, new berries can have their trial by fire, that's how I learned dust. I wouldn't give my dropship skills for 2 scrubs ever, I worked hard for that and it barley pays the bills as is!
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 790	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:33:00 - [23] - Quote You best be trollin'. I'm so tired of all these absolutely r-tarded threads about various wipes/resets. It wouldn't even help anything. Best case (and highly unlikely) scenario if they were to reset SP to 0, CCP manages to retain a large percentage of their current players, everyone is on an even playing field with gear for a few months, then more new guys start complaining about the proto stompers, and it all starts again. Not to mention the actual good players who will still be able to steamroll because they are just that good. Most likely scenario if they did this, CCP alienates the few (relatively) faithful players they still have, causing them to quit since they no longer have any ties to the game, the few that actually stay think they are better off, till it takes them 5 minutes to find a match, that won't be full anyway. Then if/when new people start coming in, the few that stayed will take the place of the "idiots" who left, and the new guys will cry for a full reset because they weren't here since "the beginning" It's a r-tarded idea, and just needs to die. I will absolutely quit if they reset our characters again. Luckily, it won't come to that, because CCP stated baring some kind of catastrophic server malfunction, there will be NO FURTHER RESETS. SP reFUNDS... perhaps. but no resets. This is an online game. HTFU. Wait for better matchmaking/more places for the "endgamers" to go. that or possibly incentives for people to NOT run proto in pub matches. Whatever they do, a reset won't be a part of it. It's like if after the first year, Blizzard said they were going to wipe all characters so the slowasses that weren't there in the beginning could "get a fair shake". No. You start late, you get ganked till you can defend yourself against those high levels. then you get to do the ganking.
SAIRAX SIS Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 49	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:37:00 - [24] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Do you self wipe? s u ! good bye :)
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3080	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:39:00 - [25] - Quote I'd be up for increasing starting sp to around 1 million but giving 30 million straight away will have more people quit because they'd realise a lot sooner that there's nothing in dust that warrants the big grind. I also apologise for being so brash. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
KGB Sleep Inner.Hell 1028	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:40:00 - [26] - Quote You can perfectly spec a role for 7 to 10m SP. You want to help NPE? Write a guide. Better yet, read one. Because beer, that's why.
Patrick57 7107	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:41:00 - [27] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Bad idea is bad, and you should feel bad. Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3080	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:42:00 - [28] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: You best be trollin'. I'm so tired of all these absolutely r-tarded threads about various wipes/resets. It wouldn't even help anything. Best case (and highly unlikely) scenario if they were to reset SP to 0, CCP manages to retain a large percentage of their current players, everyone is on an even playing field with gear for a few months, then more new guys start complaining about the proto stompers, and it all starts again. Not to mention the actual good players who will still be able to steamroll because they are just that good. Most likely scenario if they did this, CCP alienates the few (relatively) faithful players they still have, causing them to quit since they no longer have any ties to the game, the few that actually stay think they are better off, till it takes them 5 minutes to find a match, that won't be full anyway. Then if/when new people start coming in, the few that stayed will take the place of the "idiots" who left, and the new guys will cry for a full reset because they weren't here since "the beginning" It's a r-tarded idea, and just needs to die. I will absolutely quit if they reset our characters again. Luckily, it won't come to that, because CCP stated baring some kind of catastrophic server malfunction, there will be NO FURTHER RESETS. SP reFUNDS... perhaps. but no resets. This is an online game. HTFU. Wait for better matchmaking/more places for the "endgamers" to go. that or possibly incentives for people to NOT run proto in pub matches. Whatever they do, a reset won't be a part of it. It's like if after the first year, Blizzard said they were going to wipe all WoW characters so the slowasses that weren't there in the beginning could "get a fair shake". No. You start late, you get ganked till you can defend yourself against those high levels. then you get to do the ganking. Agreed but when you see my going 1/10 with knives but number 1 on the board, I can assure you that I ran my arse off keeping the team alive. Winmatar logi with knives right here hahahahaha. o7. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2138	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:44:00 - [29] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. Just cuz you got the game late doesn't mean we should be punished.. We closed beta members have had our sp wiped enough times.. You don't see cod or bf wiping their players after 4 months.. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 25	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:45:00 - [30] - Quote It's I new this post would upset players and tbh I don't care you can say how train and help players but how about the players you dont. We no ccp takes for ever to do anything we the players that have been here from the start need to lose the op ego and start making in game changes. I have 47mill sp been here from the start and spent -ú500+ on this game to help this game yes I would give it all up. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.



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