DUST Search - sp wipe

21yrOld Knight wrote:

steelRatt wrote:

It's funny how even on the forums not in game were you might lose some Fake money some peeps have to fight. Like I said it was a thought instead of constructive feed back it's all hell no iv worked for my sp. The point was to prove only a few want this game to work some of you have pointed out how much real cash and the time invested in to this game. Yet it's all down to ccp to fix so when this game is all dead at least you won that last match over the new guy.oh and you got a step closer to the top of the leaderboards. Someone even compared dust to Cod saying they don't do wipes true but they bring out a new game every 6 months.dust can be so much more yes ccp need to pull there fingers out there backsides but all the content in the world won't help if players need to win so bad they use bugs and exploits and fotm all the time. We have seen dust change so much from swarms killing the mac to redline rails now ramming DS and tanked scouts and um sure there is more to come. So please carry on rageing over this post call me all the names you want if it makes you happy.

Dude, I seriously can't tell if you are serious or not. Are you trolling? I really can't tell.

Earlier you said you would give up your 47million sp for a better NPE, just biomass yourself. I hear it is a new trend on the forums, stupid but new.

Also in the quote above you mention that this thread has no constructive feedback. I'm sorry to tell you this but you can't build something sturdy with crap.

I think your trolling. You are asking for people to rage.

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Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2140	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:59:00 - [61] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: The only thing that an sp wipe would do is cause the few players that are good at this game too leave. Which I bet is what you want, that way you don't get stomped anymore. I say go for it but as others have stated I want my money back and then I'll leave. We had too build up sp so why shouldn't they? Because they didn't want too play through the hard freezes, broken mechanics and other **** we went through to help this game? Instead you would rather push us away for the new players who never gave a damn about this game. I don't want anyone to leave and don't get stomped to often and you stuck with the game this long you would leave if a sp wipe fixed the game 100% how well the new players learn to love this game like We do if some corps players can't help but stomp every match coz the thought of losing hurts so much.I was in a match we was wining tho it was close with about 5 mins left the ofter team swapped to full proto to win it was a good game even with the lose but the urge to win is so strong in some. I can't play as much as I used to.. Something about graduating? Anyways I don't have the time or patience to make that grind again so I'd just leave. I mean it's cool if it truly helps but I've been here from the start and I will not go through the grind again.. I did that enough in closed beta. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2370	Posted - 2014.04.20 15:59:00 - [62] - Quote there's dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2140	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:02:00 - [63] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: steelRatt wrote: It's funny how even on the forums not in game were you might lose some Fake money some peeps have to fight. Like I said it was a thought instead of constructive feed back it's all hell no iv worked for my sp. The point was to prove only a few want this game to work some of you have pointed out how much real cash and the time invested in to this game. Yet it's all down to ccp to fix so when this game is all dead at least you won that last match over the new guy.oh and you got a step closer to the top of the leaderboards. Someone even compared dust to Cod saying they don't do wipes true but they bring out a new game every 6 months.dust can be so much more yes ccp need to pull there fingers out there backsides but all the content in the world won't help if players need to win so bad they use bugs and exploits and fotm all the time. We have seen dust change so much from swarms killing the mac to redline rails now ramming DS and tanked scouts and um sure there is more to come. So please carry on rageing over this post call me all the names you want if it makes you happy. Dude, I seriously can't tell if you are serious or not. Are you trolling? I really can't tell. Earlier you said you would give up your 47million sp for a better NPE, just biomass yourself. I hear it is a new trend on the forums, stupid but new. Also in the quote above you mention that this thread has no constructive feedback. I'm sorry to tell you this but you can't build something sturdy with crap. I think your trolling. You are asking for people to rage. I'm filled with rage it truly sucks.. Very hard to control as well. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 27	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:12:00 - [64] - Quote calisk galern wrote: theirs dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now. Yes there is dozens of ways to help and off a full sp wipe is the last thing on the list all iv been hearing tho is how ccp need to do this and that to fix it we need to help em tho we can do so much more then ccp coz we are in the matchs it shouldn't just be ccp it's our game we play it spend cash on it and want it to last don't we? Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Canari Elphus Dirt Nap Squad. 1453	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:14:00 - [65] - Quote calisk galern wrote: there's dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now. And what happens next year when the people that were wiped now get to 30-40mil SP range? You going to wipe again for the next batch of newberries? Sure, you could get rid of people's SP but they are still going to trounce new players because they know the maps, the objectives, and all of the equipment. Canari Elphus for CPM1
The Attorney General 2648	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:19:00 - [66] - Quote calisk galern wrote: there's dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now. that is why there needs to be an asset wipe to go with it. Everyone who has spent aurum on boosters gets all their boosters back, etc. Everyone goes to zero to clean up the inflated ISK from the 3 buybacks and all the PC shenanigans. There is a lot of ill-gotten ISK out there, and it could cause all sorts of problems. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 27	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:23:00 - [67] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: calisk galern wrote: there's dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now. And what happens next year when the people that were wiped now get to 30-40mil SP range? You going to wipe again for the next batch of newberries? Sure, you could get rid of people's SP but they are still going to trounce new players because they know the maps, the objectives, and all of the equipment. Right so let the current player base act with more responsibility until ccp do what ever ur is they plan to so not to scare off new players. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Meknow Intaki 140	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:26:00 - [68] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Meknow Intaki wrote: I don't like the idea of a sp wipe, but I would get behind a isk wipe =ƒÿü Nah I grinded my 200m isk I never received a single paycheck from a corp. That's another grind I'm unwilling to do again. But I see what you did there I'm in the same position!! I've saved and saved for almost two years now to the tune of 150 million isk but I'd give it up if the trillionairs had to give up there's too=ƒæì
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2141	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:29:00 - [69] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Meknow Intaki wrote: I don't like the idea of a sp wipe, but I would get behind a isk wipe =ƒÿü Nah I grinded my 200m isk I never received a single paycheck from a corp. That's another grind I'm unwilling to do again. But I see what you did there I'm in the same position!! I've saved and saved for almost two years now to the tune of 150 million isk but I'd give it up if the trillionairs had to give up there's too=ƒæì Their districts would pay it back though.. Let's be smart about this, we'd have to grind back and they'd just sit on their districts making bank Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Meknow Intaki 140	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:34:00 - [70] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Meknow Intaki wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Meknow Intaki wrote: I don't like the idea of a sp wipe, but I would get behind a isk wipe =ƒÿü Nah I grinded my 200m isk I never received a single paycheck from a corp. That's another grind I'm unwilling to do again. But I see what you did there I'm in the same position!! I've saved and saved for almost two years now to the tune of 150 million isk but I'd give it up if the trillionairs had to give up there's too=ƒæì Their districts would pay it back though.. Let's be smart about this, we'd have to grind back and they'd just sit on their districts making bank The isk wipe could only be implemented after the no risk for over the top amazing rewards cash cow known as planetary conquest is fixed =ƒÿÉ

Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 477	Posted - 2014.04.20 16:42:00 - [71] - Quote so the players who opted out of PC are made to suffer an isk wipe because of those who broke PC to generate isk they now want removed from everybody? u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Meknow Intaki 140	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:11:00 - [72] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: so the players who opted out of PC are made to suffer an isk wipe because of those who broke PC to generate isk they now want removed from everybody? Well maybe CCP would be kind enough to give everyone 50 million isk or something?
jerrmy12 kahoalii 1067	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:13:00 - [73] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Get fucked. I didn't spend a year playing this game to 38M SP so that I could be reset a year later. Find some other way of fixing it, but don't even think about touching my SP. touch Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 357	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:27:00 - [74] - Quote Or, ya know... you could just add a game mode where only basic and militia fits are usable... plus PvE, instead of taking such a risky gamble. I know I wouldn't be likely to continue playing this game if my SP got wiped. The grind is too slow and I'm finally in a decent spot with my meager 26 million SP to play the way I want. Wiping everyone's SP would probably drive more players away than it would get. You're forgetting how underevolved Dust is in comparison to other FPS's, and the fact that it doesn't exactly have a marketing campaign going. Most of the new players come by word of mouth. Who would honestly recommend a game that not only has as many glitches as Dust, and also wipes all the time spent by the gamer to get good gear? It's already hard enough to recommend as is and doing this would be sure to send a vast majority of Dust players to other games. Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 552	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:31:00 - [75] - Quote i dont play often, so losing my 23 mil sp would be hell for me. It would take me 2-3 years getting that back, please tell me what would compensate for that? I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 682	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:19:00 - [76] - Quote As others have mentioned it would be a short term solution to either wipe everybody or give new players 30 m SP as you would have to do it every year for each new batch of players. If that is the case you might as well remove SP or give everyone max SP plus a billions of isk. None of the above makes an effective solution to the NPE. The only solution I can see is a graduated introduction to the game e.g. High Sec or a means of avoiding direct conflict e.g. PVE where vets would actually support new players rather than shoot them.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2031	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:30:00 - [77] - Quote You are either 1: A dumbass 2: a kid who wants to be in the same place as the vets 3: a troll 4: a mix of above click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2031	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:32:00 - [78] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: calisk galern wrote: there's dozens of ways to handle the npe without a wipe. a wipe is literally the worst possible temporary soloution ever thought of to handle the npe. a wipe would last 3 months then any new players would be back to exactly where we are now. that is why there needs to be an asset wipe to go with it. Everyone who has spent aurum on boosters gets all their boosters back, etc. Everyone goes to zero to clean up the inflated ISK from the 3 buybacks and all the PC shenanigans. There is a lot of ill-gotten ISK out there, and it could cause all sorts of problems. Are you a complete idiot? It doesn't matter what happens, what kinds of wipes there is, it will always go back to square 1. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2015	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:52:00 - [79] - Quote steelRatt wrote: Well as you guys don't want to help the game how bout they give new players 30mil sp I don't understand why ccp just doesn't put anyone under 10 mil sp in matches vs each other....anyone over 10 mil fight in the normal game. problem solved right? furthermore, personally I spent 600$ on this game (I know I'm an idiot) the dren pack, the elite pack, the vetern pack, countless boosters, all the bpo's do you think an aurum refund for over a year of game time and monetary investment is fair recompense for an sp wipe, especially when, quite frankly, the aur market is crap? why should I be further punished for my investment? I'm already stuck with a subpar game. answers to the npe experience are so simple, like adding pve, separating new players from vets and so forth.....and for the record I can run proto and hardly ever do, I run bpo suits with adv links or hives and explosives, so for me it's not about wanting to maintain an advantage, it's wanting to retain what I've worked hard for. edit: just wanted to add one more thought.... when all the new players now hit 30 mil sp and the next new players are in the same boat, do we wipe it all again? until the actual game mechanics are fixed we are taking bandaids to a problem here.... this game makes me sad....
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2015	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:02:00 - [80] - Quote another thing that boggles my mind.... when did it become our responsibility to make dust fun for new players? thats what the devs at ccp get paid for...I'm all about helping new players, but I draw the line at it being my responsibility.... what other game ever made the player responsible for player retention? whay cant ccp do what any number of other games have done for new players, all of which seems to work since those games aren't having this problem.... I swear the dust community has a group within it who act like an abused spouse who feels like it's their fault they get hit.... NO! CCP IS THE PROBLEM, not the players.... even the most douchbag of player is not in the least responsible for npe... ccp is the only problem here! this game makes me sad....

Seeth Mensch Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 214	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:07:00 - [81] - Quote Yup, goin' with "get f\|\|<3d". I built my versatility and skills up. Taking that away is like giving someone a book and then removing it when they get to the last chapter. There isn't a benefit in it, it doesn't change the issues already present, and I would turn away from CCP and decry them to every person I know. Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 30	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:12:00 - [82] - Quote You no its funny peeps keep saying why should I be punished if if fixs the game would that be a punishment. Seymor you are right CCP needs to make dust a better game for a npe but we can help to and iv hard you rage when getting stomped think of the guys playing only 1 or 2 days. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Seeth Mensch Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 214	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:27:00 - [83] - Quote Just realized something. A couple of weeks ago, I made an alt and hopped into the Academy with my starter fit. I got something like quadruple the points of the next person down; I was matched by someone doing probably the same thing on the other side. Taking away all the goodies that people have earned wouldn't work because good players are GOOD. I'm way far from the best and I was mopping the floor with folks. NPE has to be a created enviornment, you can't just try to force it on like that. It won't work. Scrubs won't even have a chance to complain about being protostomped, they'll just be confused about why they aren't doing as well and quit. Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2015	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:23:00 - [84] - Quote steelRatt wrote: You no its funny peeps keep saying why should I be punished if if fixs the game would that be a punishment. Seymor you are right CCP needs to make dust a better game for a npe but we can help to and iv hard you rage when getting stomped think of the guys playing only 1 or 2 days. yes I hate stomps, I think its poor sportsmanship, and I hate bugs, like getting shot to death through cover...I also agree that theres an element of players that go out of there way to make the game unfun for everyone else, and I do sympathize with new players, I'm never a douchebag to them... but it's ccp's sole responsibility to fix this, and because there are so many ways to fix it an sp wipe would be punishment to people like me who are certainly not top tiered players, gets stomped, and put a lot of hard work and effort (and money) to get where I am.... I bet there are a lot more people like me than there are of the exploiters and stompers whom I believe are the types your thinking of with this sort of idea. unfortunately they are also the people who will be effected the least since without a proper game fix, if they wanted to they could get right back into the position they are in now with in months and we would be right back to square 1. this game makes me sad....
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 152	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:31:00 - [85] - Quote Ok. So let's say that CCP blindly accepted your request to wipe our SP's and bring it all down to 0. Then after a year or two from now, some other "dude" like yourself comes along and makes the same request. After you just earned a good 40+ million SP's. Are you willing to do the same for that chap? If your answer is no. Then GTFO.
Ablerober The Southern Cross Extraction Services 24	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:51:00 - [86] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. I created two alts in the last fortnight and have to say I'm enjoying the experience more this time round. The only thing I would change about the NPE is letting them start with more ISK - luckily my own corp (which contains all three of us) has been able to fund both of these builds. My Amarr alt is doing really well, I wanted him to skill into commando dropsuits and laser rifle. I've only been working on him for the last two weeks and am happy with progress so far. My Minmatar alt will become either an assault or scout with the assault combat rifle - the real work begins in the next month. I don't want the 34M SP from my this (my main character) wiped, as I've been playing on and off for about 15 months and this would be a waste of my m0therfuckin time.
plaplapla Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 21	Posted - 2014.04.20 22:22:00 - [87] - Quote end 10 weeks later we be back where we are now with a lot new players getting there ass kick . then some one on the form wil say let reset all the SP so the new guys can feel good . then 10 weeks later we do all again so that the buthurt noobies can feel good
plaplapla Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 21	Posted - 2014.04.20 22:24:00 - [88] - Quote .
noobsniper the 2nd Inner.Hell 420	Posted - 2014.04.20 23:18:00 - [89] - Quote U reset my sp the tryhard gods will punish u for the stupidity you have caused "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
MINA Longstrike 536	Posted - 2014.04.20 23:26:00 - [90] - Quote steelRatt wrote: So I was thinking about the NPE one way we could handle this is a full sp wipe. Now before all the leets and tryhards get butt hurt Ccp could give us AUR equal to the time played so a vet gets more then someone playing for the past 4 months. This might force some players to leave but is that a bad thing if we get 2 new players to 1 leet gerk it's win win. A sp wipe kills this game, completely. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.



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