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DMH Bond Dust OMEGA corp United Brotherhood Alliance 26	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:17:00 - [1] - Quote I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed.
Tectonic Fusion 1505	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:19:00 - [2] - Quote Get a 1600 EHP Amarr Heavy if you don't want to be a glass cannon... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 469	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:19:00 - [3] - Quote well it is a shotgun in every FPS they usually 1 shot you not 2 or 3 u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12420	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:20:00 - [4] - Quote The guy is within 5 metres of you, using a weapon that is completely useless past that. It takes him three shots from his relatively slow firing weapon to kill you. What is the problem here? I would say its your idea that such a thing should be impossible because you brick tanked your logi to over 1000 HP. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 6970	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:20:00 - [5] - Quote DMH Bond wrote: I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed. There is something that I'm wondering how it's possible, but it's not the 2-3HK Shotgun. Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS] [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Clone D 237	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:21:00 - [6] - Quote DMH Bond wrote: I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed. The enemy probably shot you more than that but only 2 or 3 sound effects are rendered on your client. It's a synchronization problem. It's one of the sad facts of life about Dust 514. .
Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 70	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:22:00 - [7] - Quote I'm sorry, I'm not quite understanding something here. You get shot 2-3 times by a shotgun. And you die. And this is somehow wrong? Please explain.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2372	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:23:00 - [8] - Quote Shotgun... it's doing what it's supposed to do. If you're shield tanking, you'll get shredded by it like a LVL 99 Super Soaker going through a LVL 1 Paper Armor.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2581	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:24:00 - [9] - Quote It means the Enemy is 1) Hitting you within the optimal of 5m 2) Hitting you with the whole slug (the whole circle is directly over your body) This is meant to be rather difficult to achieve however the current iteration of cloaks MAKES Shotguns OP, they are not OP by them selves. Or it might be a Breach Shotgun, if it's a Breach then it's designed to kill heavies, that's its job. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Scheherazade VII 417	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:25:00 - [10] - Quote translation: it killed me, let's cry nerf because it killed my brick suit i use a minmatar light frame, i never see that suit but I use it anyway and I love destroying proto heavies/logis with it and hearing you cry! i am that guy

Tectonic Fusion 1505	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:28:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: It means the Enemy is 1) Hitting you within the optimal of 5m 2) Hitting you with the whole slug (the whole circle is directly over your body) This is meant to be rather difficult to achieve however the current iteration of cloaks MAKES Shotguns OP, they are not OP by them selves. Or it might be a Breach Shotgun, if it's a Breach then it's designed to kill heavies, that's its job. Mine fails to kill Amarr and Gallente heavies. I think it needs 4 shots. It's not like it will be OP. That's still half the normal clip size for the shotgun. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 469	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:33:00 - [12] - Quote not sure if op is trolling or srs u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 72	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:36:00 - [13] - Quote What do people think happens to the scout after he has shot someone at 5m with a shotgun and kills them? They die, because they are sitting in the middle of the enemy, on their own, with much less hp than everyone else. If the enemy had no nearby backup that's his/his team's fault for not sticking together. Trouble is people are incapable of thinking about things from other people's perspective. They just think "oh I died, scouts/cloaks are op." They don't think about the risk the shotgun user has to make to get the kill. Also if someone hits you twice with a breach shotgun they have hit you with literally an entire magazine without missing, you should be dead. If I get shot by a shotgun in my std min logi with a std CR, half of the time I still win the engagement, so I have no sympathy for all the whinging.
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. 462	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:46:00 - [14] - Quote A shotgun does something like 400 damage per shot. If he landed a head shoot it would only take two volleys to kill you. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 373	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:50:00 - [15] - Quote Aiming center mass within five (5) meters, a CRG-3 used by an Operation V Shotgunner will hit for around 500 damage per blast. Within 5 meters, downward variability occurs if/when a percentage of pellets miss the target. Within 5 meters, upward variability occurs when a percentage of pellets hit the head. Beyond 5 meters, efficiency Rating drops linearly and damage potential drop exponentially. It stands to reason that you are being 2-shotted when your adversary blasts you in the face / head, and 3 shotted when he fails to hit you in your face / head. Bang?
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5131	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:52:00 - [16] - Quote DMH Bond wrote: I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA 3 Shotted with a SG! ? YOU ARE RIGHT! It should only take 1 shot to kill a 1000 HP red dot with a shotgun a point blank. FIX CCP. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1875	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:54:00 - [17] - Quote Please, do not take OP seriously. The SG is bad. Support my thread. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155689&find=unread
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4812	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:58:00 - [18] - Quote I've had my caldari commando's 400 shields gone in absolutely no time from standard rail rifles and mass drivers. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 558	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:12:00 - [19] - Quote Can i have a heavy weapon that can 1 shot any infantry suit that does not have a 4 second chage time or leave me immobile?
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2856	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:16:00 - [20] - Quote And the problem with this is what? That a guy sneaked up onto you and actually gets the kill while you are using a bricktanked logi? Thats so 1.7 get with the times man. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.

Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 73	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:18:00 - [21] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Can i have a heavy weapon that can 1 shot any infantry suit that does not have a 4 second chage time or leave me immobile? A HMG kills much quicker than a shotgun at much longer range so I don't know what you are talking about. Unless you aren't talking about shotguns and just want some kind of awsome 1HK heavy weapon? Maybe the Gallente one? 1HK on any suit might be op though without a charge. Unless it's a hammer...
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 558	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:33:00 - [22] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Can i have a heavy weapon that can 1 shot any infantry suit that does not have a 4 second chage time or leave me immobile? A HMG kills much quicker than a shotgun at much longer range so I don't know what you are talking about. Unless you aren't talking about shotguns and just want some kind of awsome 1HK heavy weapon? Maybe the Gallente one? 1HK on any suit might be op though without a charge. Unless it's a hammer... I do not understand your argument. A weapon that can 1hk most suits and has no charge up time can easily kill faster than a hmg.
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 334	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:22:00 - [23] - Quote DMH Bond wrote: I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed. Adv Shotguns with a full shotgun blast = 500 hp. Proto is at 600, so don't be surprised that it doesn't kill you in even 2 shots. "One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s. You do it with 63.00 Stamina Regen.
Jenza's Pants The Hetairoi 163	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:23:00 - [24] - Quote DMH Bond wrote: I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed. trolling? lol.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 455	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:34:00 - [25] - Quote I don't want to hear complaints about the shotgun considering due to the awful hit detection I sometimes fire and hit absolutely zero and then get insta-killed because everyone nearby heard the "phtoom", immediately panic and turn around. Obviously OP has never used one before. Always the last person to leave. Always the one cleaning up people's messes.
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 558	Posted - 2014.04.20 03:03:00 - [26] - Quote LEHON Xeon wrote: I don't want to hear complaints about the shotgun considering due to the awful hit detection I sometimes fire and hit absolutely zero and then get insta-killed because everyone nearby heard the "phtoom", immediately panic and turn around. Obviously OP has never used one before. I havent had any issues with hit detection using a shotgun myself and i engage a bit further out than most scouts shooting at people 10 meters away. I am a controller user though.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 484	Posted - 2014.04.20 03:25:00 - [27] - Quote the shotgun suks without a cloak and still with a cloak i can think of at least 2 better guns to use with a cloak
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2006	Posted - 2014.04.20 03:31:00 - [28] - Quote DMH Bond wrote: I have a 1008 eHP Minmatar proto logi fit that is getting 2 and 3 shotted my scouts with shotguns. How CCP is this possible. Its either a glitch that needs to be corrected or needs to be nerfed. SHOT GUNS AT CLOSE RAGE ARE THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON IN MOST FPS GAMES. sry caps...not retyping... you also have to ask yourself: 1. is it a proto shotty 2. were you head shot? 3. was anyone else also shooting at you? even if the answer to all these questions is no 2-3 shots is much more than most suits get, what? did you think because you put on a fat suit you should be invincible? this game makes me sad....
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5135	Posted - 2014.04.20 03:37:00 - [29] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Can i have a heavy weapon that can 1 shot any infantry suit that does not have a 4 second chage time or leave me immobile? You have. BURST HMG. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 906	Posted - 2014.04.20 03:41:00 - [30] - Quote Why is this an issue? It's a SHOTGUN, how many shots do you expect it to take? Measure in ttk not in shots fired. HMGs and rifles will kill just as quickly. Did you know my PLC can absolutely obliterate your suit in 1, count em 1, hit?! Or that a Forge gun can also do the same? Obviously those need nerfing because minimum to kill someone is 30 shots, regardless of rof.



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