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Bar Be
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:32:00 -
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Forget everything else.
This is what kills the game.
If you do it. You are a d!ck.
And yes, I've just been spawn camped by 3 x Madrugers.
Rage over. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:34:00 -
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Spawn camping isn't the problem its matchmaking, theres a spawn protection thing but it seems to only work against shotguns, but not OHK weapons like the PLC.
Assassination is my thing.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:34:00 -
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To be fair, no one forced you to spawn there multiple times
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Bar Be
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:54:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:To be fair, no one forced you to spawn there multiple times
You are so right. I should have quit the game. Or is there a secret spawn location I don't know about? |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:10:00 -
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Its called LOOKING AT THE MAP BEFORE YOU MASH AUTO DEPLOY.
If you see your spawn with a bunch of blue dots bunched up and dissapearing, then don't deploy because you spawn in long enough to make the spawn stay in that spot, while another blue dot as dumb as you hits auto deploy, perpetuating the spawn camp and draining clones.
I'm in nyain san, I've gone 3 games IN A ROW where we went 50 to 0 because the idiots kept doing it.
Ccps spawn system is garbage because enemies have to be within 10 feet or so of the spawn for it to change, meaning you actually have to stop spawning in if its getting camped.
Your post is making me facepalm very hard right now.
Nyan!~~~~~=[,,_,,]:3
Nyain san is currently accepting hatemails.
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:56:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Its called LOOKING AT THE MAP BEFORE YOU MASH AUTO DEPLOY.
If you see your spawn with a bunch of blue dots bunched up and dissapearing, then don't deploy because you spawn in long enough to make the spawn stay in that spot, while another blue dot as dumb as you hits auto deploy, perpetuating the spawn camp and draining clones.
I'm in nyain san, I've gone 3 games IN A ROW where we went 50 to 0 because the idiots kept doing it.
Ccps spawn system is garbage because enemies have to be within 10 feet or so of the spawn for it to change, meaning you actually have to stop spawning in if its getting camped.
This ^ is soo true!
I have been on the receiving end of spawn camping many times. When it's obvious you will get killed by a firingsquad in 0.2 sec, I don't spawn in. If enough people do the same a new spawn point will form very quickly. However, the rest of the blueberries didn't seem to catch on, and happily depleted our clone reserve in 1.5 minutes of constant slaughter. |
Cee Zet
Phantom Universe Task Force
Die Fremdenlegion
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:48:00 -
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As an Drop-up logi, i can tell you, that it is very difficult to lay uplinks in the "right" position. You have to lay them on to fronts, maybe three. Two as backup, two in a front position, and two on the flank of them, so that they can secure them. I also watch my spawm points the hole time, from point of view with an LR and ScR.
Spawm camping is possible, and makes the game more taktical, cause you have to change the way you attack/defend. And aslong as there are uplinks, spawn camping is allowed. If you talk to your team mates, they will tell you, how much people are on the actuell best uplink. Use the one behind, wich maybe takes longer spawntime, but its maybe safe. |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
385
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:54:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:Forget everything else.
This is what kills the game.
If you do it. You are a d!ck.
And yes, I've just been spawn camped by 3 x Madrugers.
Rage over. little hint check the map before you spawn in and if you die there i would say don't spawn right back there again like a tard.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Bar Be
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.19 13:50:00 -
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You are all so right you great sages of this game. If only I was as good as you.
I hadn't thought of trying to spawn somewhere else, so I just mash deploy anywhere without checking the map.
Neither do I attempt to get away from the spawn site with some uplinks to help out my team. I prefer to die over and over again like a tard.
When 3 tanks are driving into the red line one after the other to shoot me as I fall out of the MCC I just think: if only I could get good. |
The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:00:00 -
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If it happened in Skirmish, than yes, you need to get good.
If it happened on a certain map on Dom then blame CCP for being stupid and not knowing how to design a map.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:09:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:You are all so right you great sages of this game. If only I was as good as you.
I hadn't thought of trying to spawn somewhere else, so I just mash deploy anywhere without checking the map.
Neither do I attempt to get away from the spawn site with some uplinks to help out my team. I prefer to die over and over again like a tard.
When 3 tanks are driving into the red line one after the other to shoot me as I fall out of the MCC I just think: if only I could get good.
It's true barbe. When there are six blaster tanks at your ground spawn and MCC going in and out of the red line, this is clearly a sign of YOUR inability to get good.
You should probably just make 30m SP materialize out of thin air and GET GOOD SCRUB |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:19:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:To be fair, no one forced you to spawn there multiple times You are so right. I should have quit the game. Or is there a secret spawn location I don't know about?
The Mobile Command Center, and the Ground Base.
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Roofer Madness
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 14:23:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Its called LOOKING AT THE MAP BEFORE YOU MASH AUTO DEPLOY.
If you see your spawn with a bunch of blue dots bunched up and dissapearing, then don't deploy because you spawn in long enough to make the spawn stay in that spot, while another blue dot as dumb as you hits auto deploy, perpetuating the spawn camp and draining clones.
I'm in nyain san, I've gone 3 games IN A ROW where we went 50 to 0 because the idiots kept doing it.
Ccps spawn system is garbage because enemies have to be within 10 feet or so of the spawn for it to change, meaning you actually have to stop spawning in if its getting camped.
Listen to this man. He's in Nyain San. They practically invented spawn camping.
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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Justice Prevails
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:26:00 -
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OP, I know what your saying, raged about this a few times. Problem is your trying to convince aholes to stop ahole behavior.
Not talking about ambush, because spawning in that is a crapshoot. The only time spawncamping is good tactic wise is if you need to clone the enemy out to win. Other than that, destroy the link or hack the point and move on with your victory.
That said, you can't expect aholes not be aholes, especially in new eden, and especially during 5X WP WEEK. If they get you once, shame on pthem; twice shame on us. Most of my deaths to spawn camping came from the muliple times I spawned in enraged, stupid, and looking for revenge. Oh, but when i did get a kill, it felt good.
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:30:00 -
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I make it a bit of a mission to destroy compromised uplinks, or hack into cru's that are being camped, sorry if you just so happen to spawn in while im hacking or destroying, i will kill you though :/ |
Eruditus 920
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:33:00 -
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When 3 tanks are driving into the red line one after the other to shoot me as I fall out of the MCC I just think: if only I could get good.[/quote]
Genuinely made me laugh.
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."
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Spike Slania
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT
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Posted - 2014.04.19 15:33:00 -
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I will admit to spawning in on crus being spawn camped when I knew it was, when people are spawn camping them they normally don't expect a Sentinel to pop out with a HMG that isn't a stupid blue berry. Sure I die but normally after I kill a few, just hard trying to pick out the Logi when you start off surrounded and gunning. Never bother spawning in an uplink that's being camped since there is no cover like what the cru provides.
I'm not too far from you, I can't wait to see you, again and again
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:39:00 -
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was just in a game where my cru was being camped by a tank, a couple of heavies, and a scout... Some scrubs these days SMH cant find a good way to kill? Gotta go with these scrub tactics? |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University
Ivy League
534
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:45:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:You are all so right you great sages of this game. If only I was as good as you.
I hadn't thought of trying to spawn somewhere else, so I just mash deploy anywhere without checking the map.
Neither do I attempt to get away from the spawn site with some uplinks to help out my team. I prefer to die over and over again like a tard.
When 3 tanks are driving into the red line one after the other to shoot me as I fall out of the MCC I just think: if only I could get good.
These guys know its a dickhead move, they do it to be dicks.
If you want a vision of DUST514 v1.8, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2835
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:51:00 -
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3 madrugars? Hmm that means you didnt played ambush which means you played a objective game like domination/skirmish. Just a hint: if 3 tanks are around the spawnpoint that you selected you might want to spawn somewhere else except you want a free death.
Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
389
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:51:00 -
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[quote=Bar Be]You are all so right you great sages of this game. If only I was as good as you.
I hadn't thought of trying to spawn somewhere else, so I just mash deploy anywhere without checking the map.
Neither do I attempt to get away from the spawn site with some uplinks to help out my team. I prefer to die over and over again like a tard.
When 3 tanks are driving into the red line one after the other to shoot me as I fall out of the MCC I just think: if only I could get good.[/quote so your not aware that a redline rail tank will make most smart people back off your redline. and if its to the point were tanks are shooting you as you fall from the MCC it might be time to leave battle and shuffle the bluedot deck.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:00:00 -
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So around 99% of the player base lol.
Its easy quick isk
It kills clones
It punishes idiots for spawning in
Those idiots tend to be the ones who think spawn camping is bad
Next time I'll hack the objective and let someone shoot me in the back and cut the idiots some slack in doing so
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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Dericha
xDisgruntledx
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:04:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:and if its to the point were tanks are shooting you as you fall from the MCC it might be time to leave battle and shuffle the bluedot deck.
exactly. I'm all for pushing objectives and trying, but sometimes throwing yourself face-first into a meat grinder is not the solution. Leave game and don't feed the KDR monster. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Bar Be wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:To be fair, no one forced you to spawn there multiple times You are so right. I should have quit the game. Or is there a secret spawn location I don't know about? The Mobile Command Center, and the Ground Base.
This right here ^
"Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads."
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
628
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:05:00 -
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I think it's annoying when there are other things to be doing (like objectives to defend), but other times it just helps the match to quicker.
When it happens to me, that is my cue to lay uplinks.
When it's happening at the MCC, I kinda wish CCP refined the spawning system.
The Ghost of Bravo
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wripple
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
164
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:07:00 -
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Pro tip: don't spawn at a camped location |
Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
Dropsuit Samurai
139
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:08:00 -
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I recall just yesterday being spawn camped by a Minnie Scout with Nova Knives. Since it was the only spawn point in that Ambush match, I decided to spawn with an HMG heavy, and wiped him out.
Then I realized it was placed in a wedge where clones couldn't escape. Crud. |
Bar Be
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:08:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Atiim wrote:Bar Be wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:To be fair, no one forced you to spawn there multiple times You are so right. I should have quit the game. Or is there a secret spawn location I don't know about? The Mobile Command Center, and the Ground Base. This right here ^
Tell me. Where is this second Mobile Command Centre? |
Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:22:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Atiim wrote:Bar Be wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:To be fair, no one forced you to spawn there multiple times You are so right. I should have quit the game. Or is there a secret spawn location I don't know about? The Mobile Command Center, and the Ground Base. This right here ^ Tell me. Where is this second Mobile Command Centre?
There isn't but there is a ground base in your redline that the enemy cannot get to. Maybe try spawning there. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
875
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:30:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Its called LOOKING AT THE MAP BEFORE YOU MASH AUTO DEPLOY.
If you see your spawn with a bunch of blue dots bunched up and dissapearing, then don't deploy because you spawn in long enough to make the spawn stay in that spot, while another blue dot as dumb as you hits auto deploy, perpetuating the spawn camp and draining clones.
I'm in nyain san, I've gone 3 games IN A ROW where we went 50 to 0 because the idiots kept doing it.
Ccps spawn system is garbage because enemies have to be within 10 feet or so of the spawn for it to change, meaning you actually have to stop spawning in if its getting camped.
This coming from the biggest known spawn campers in the game! What a bunch of douchebags. Here's a thought: sometimes there's no other place to spawn. That's no excuse for you and your corpmates being the biggest bunch of douchebags out there doing this.
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:37:00 -
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I do it all the time at CRUs with my HMG.
I don't intend to camp it, I'm just defending myself from being attacked by spawners when I hack.
Me fatty, no hacky.
If I'm in a Scout though, I will make the hack even though camping is just as easy with a Shotgun/SMG and the spawn SFX.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
1070
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Posted - 2014.04.19 17:40:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:There isn't but there is a ground base in your redline that the enemy cannot get to. Maybe try spawning there.
Advanced tactics right here
Sucks to be spawn camped but you have options...
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:40:00 -
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Yep the spawn system is about the worst I have ever encountered. It seems to go out of its way to either spawn you out in the open on a sniper or tank map or in front of the enemy and especially their tanks.
Every so often it will spawn you about as far away as possible from everything but making sure that their is an enemy tank patrolling the space between you and the battle.
Create a grid system and allow players to spawn into zones that are either contested, empty or controlled by your team. |
Savaekin 2046
Blades of the Darkmoon
12
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:44:00 -
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Its the new players to the game that are getting wrecked by this which will ultimately make CCP lose money. The Elite corporations that have the funding and skill points for proto gear every spawn may keep this game from ever getting a bigger fan base. Gotta have a balance so new players have a chance to get better and want to keep playing. Hopefully the spawn issue will get fixed next update. |
PAXTON HAILFIRE
Dark Knightz Recruitz
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:52:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Its called LOOKING AT THE MAP BEFORE YOU MASH AUTO DEPLOY.
If you see your spawn with a bunch of blue dots bunched up and dissapearing, then don't deploy because you spawn in long enough to make the spawn stay in that spot, while another blue dot as dumb as you hits auto deploy, perpetuating the spawn camp and draining clones.
I'm in nyain san, I've gone 3 games IN A ROW where we went 50 to 0 because the idiots kept doing it.
Ccps spawn system is garbage because enemies have to be within 10 feet or so of the spawn for it to change, meaning you actually have to stop spawning in if its getting camped.
Oh aren't you special. 3 in a row. Must have been fun. You'r a bunch of **** suckers. Y'all sprint from spawn point to spawn point to show these pub match scrubs how so badass you are. Your corps is full of protro wearing pussies. The entire community should leave any match you're in so you can have one big pro q synced circle jerk. I'm sure while you're drinking sugar water and eating doritos in your moms basement while mopping up 50-0 vindicates your miserable life somehow.
Just my opinion, though. Have a great day.
P.s. And yes, I suck. But I'm man enough to suck like a man and not camp crus or spawn pads. How bout y'all find a new game where there arent so many idiots spawning into your awesomeness. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:58:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:Forget everything else.
This is what kills the game.
If you do it. You are a d!ck.
And yes, I've just been spawn camped by 3 x Madrugers.
Rage over.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
Works here.
If you think anyone of the players who is spawn camping hasn't been spawn camped themselfs? EVERYONE who has played DUST long enough to give any feedback to CCP has asked them to fix their spawn mechanics...
Instead we nerf and buff **** for a solid year... and barely add the stuff they said they where gonna add a year prior.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:59:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Bar Be wrote:
Tell me. Where is this second Mobile Command Centre?
There isn't but there is a ground base in your redline that the enemy cannot get to. .
wrong. in many maps, enemy can spawn camp you there just as easily.
This is broken.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:00:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
If you think anyone of the players who is spawn camping hasn't been spawn camped themselfs?
"Hey, dont blame me for beating up on you. i was beaten as a child, too!"
yeah, that makes it ALL BETTER.
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LittleCuteBunny
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:05:00 -
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If you have issues with it, try setting an uplink in a safe position (always).
Back in closed beta it was worst.
Retired.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:06:00 -
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Cee Zet wrote:As an Drop-up logi, i can tell you, that it is very difficult to lay uplinks in the "right" position. You have to lay them on to fronts, maybe three. Two as backup, two in a front position, and two on the flank of them, so that they can secure them. I also watch my spawm points the hole time, from point of view with an LR and ScR.
Spawm camping is possible, and makes the game more taktical, cause you have to change the way you attack/defend. And aslong as there are uplinks, spawn camping is allowed. If you talk to your team mates, they will tell you, how much people are on the actuell best uplink. Use the one behind, wich maybe takes longer spawntime, but its maybe safe.
Eh. I always put a fast one for the point, one that has more spawns available in a secret or hard to get place, and the normal uplink at a flanking position (if I die I spawn in with my scout suit there).
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:13:00 -
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Tip: If you know that an uplink that you dropped is being spawn farmed. Go drop an uplink elsewhere immediately in order to destroy the other one you dropped. If you're using an R-9, immediately drop 2 elsewhere, etc. This will prevent your team from losing clones to farming.
I noticed the enemy spawn camping a drop uplink that I had set near the frontline of battle the other day and immediately committed suicide and summarily dropped my uplinks upon animation. The self sacrifice probably saved at least 5-10 clones getting farmed.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:17:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Its called LOOKING AT THE MAP BEFORE YOU MASH AUTO DEPLOY.
If you see your spawn with a bunch of blue dots bunched up and dissapearing, then don't deploy because you spawn in long enough to make the spawn stay in that spot, while another blue dot as dumb as you hits auto deploy, perpetuating the spawn camp and draining clones.
I'm in nyain san, I've gone 3 games IN A ROW where we went 50 to 0 because the idiots kept doing it.
Ccps spawn system is garbage because enemies have to be within 10 feet or so of the spawn for it to change, meaning you actually have to stop spawning in if its getting camped.
Obviously the problem is with the idiots spawning.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
503
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:32:00 -
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Bar Be wrote:Forget everything else.
This is what kills the game.
If you do it. You are a d!ck.
And yes, I've just been spawn camped by 3 x Madrugers.
Rage over.
I think spawn camping is a legitimate tactic, uplinks give you a tactical advantage and give your opponent the advantage when camped. I'm an uplink guy, if there is one role in the game I can say I do it is this, and I hate my links being camped, but it is fair to do it.
What I would like is cloaked uplinks though, so I can place them and some proto squad running non - stop vehicle scans and driving around at 100 mph, don't find them as soon as I drop them. TThere are few things as frustrating and annoying as getting spawn camped, but if it is happening in a match it is just a symptom of bad matchmaking. You don't get continually spawn camped in an even match. It's the sniffles, it might be what bothers you but it your allergies that are the problem.
Because, that's why.
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