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Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1096	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:18:00 - [1] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/N8GGasO.jpg Its a liopleuradon Charlie a magical lioplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3410	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:35:00 - [2] - Quote Ambush - Team Deathmatch Objective - To kill deplete the enemies clones Working as Intended
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2302	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:38:00 - [3] - Quote Stay out of Ambush then. It's seriously that simple. By continuing to spawn and play Ambush, you are just feeding them. I worry about people sometimes. This is a signature. You have been enlightened.
Nelo Angel0 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 232	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:40:00 - [4] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: http://i.imgur.com/N8GGasO.jpg for .1 isk ill bring my gastun into bush and make that 35/1
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 383	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:43:00 - [5] - Quote CCP will not listen to a word you say, Tried to tell them not to remove the third AV made, did they listen, NO. Now we're , stuck with misfiring Forges, Flying tanks , short range swarms, inadequate nades to name few. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1096	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:02:00 - [6] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ambush - Team Deathmatch Objective - To kill deplete the enemies clones Working as Intended Obviously a tanker who goes into ambush and hides in a tank Its a liopleuradon Charlie a magical lioplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3411	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:32:00 - [7] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ambush - Team Deathmatch Objective - To kill deplete the enemies clones Working as Intended Obviously a tanker who goes into ambush and hides in a tank I dont play lolbush
jerrmy12 kahoalii 1041	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:34:00 - [8] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Stay out of Ambush then. It's seriously that simple. By continuing to spawn and play Ambush, you are just feeding them. I worry about people sometimes. Shouldn't have to do that. Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Nelo Angel0 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 235	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:41:00 - [9] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Stay out of Ambush then. It's seriously that simple. By continuing to spawn and play Ambush, you are just feeding them. I worry about people sometimes. Shouldn't have to do that. Not really something to help vets, more along the line to help the NPE, but shouldn't we be matchmaking with people within our SP range? I thought that was one of the things introduced back when uprising first released. So why are blueberries still getting caught in pub stomp matches?
Aisaka Tiaga Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 13	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:44:00 - [10] - Quote Nelo Angel0 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Stay out of Ambush then. It's seriously that simple. By continuing to spawn and play Ambush, you are just feeding them. I worry about people sometimes. Shouldn't have to do that. Not really something to help vets, more along the line to help the NPE, but shouldn't we be matchmaking with people within our SP range? I thought that was one of the things introduced back when uprising first released. So why are blueberries still getting caught in pub stomp matches? Na they invented scotty as a way of removing the warbarge from whining hootapops, its not really a matchmaking system Clone of Yokal Bob If you don't watch anime then you are not alive

Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 354	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:45:00 - [11] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Sum1ne Else wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ambush - Team Deathmatch Objective - To kill deplete the enemies clones Working as Intended Obviously a tanker who goes into ambush and hides in a tank I dont play lolbush But you ARE a tanker Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1097	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:46:00 - [12] - Quote Heres another tanker in Ambush whos name is actually 'Brik Tank' lol http://imgur.com/43NWLRt Its a liopleuradon Charlie a magical lioplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Aisaka Tiaga Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 13	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:46:00 - [13] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: CCP will not listen to a word you say, Tried to tell them not to remove the third AV made, did they listen, NO. Now we're , stuck with misfiring Forges, Flying tanks , short range swarms, inadequate nades to name few. It's not just forge guns misfiring, its most weapons. Clone of Yokal Bob If you don't watch anime then you are not alive
Nelo Angel0 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 235	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:01:00 - [14] - Quote Aisaka Tiaga wrote: Nelo Angel0 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Stay out of Ambush then. It's seriously that simple. By continuing to spawn and play Ambush, you are just feeding them. I worry about people sometimes. Shouldn't have to do that. Not really something to help vets, more along the line to help the NPE, but shouldn't we be matchmaking with people within our SP range? I thought that was one of the things introduced back when uprising first released. So why are blueberries still getting caught in pub stomp matches? Na they invented scotty as a way of removing the warbarge from whining hootapops, its not really a matchmaking system lol i missed the warbarge TBH, Some of the maps look like **** without the pre render from warbarge ( if it even ever did that ). You would think that the first thing to try and do with the matchmaking to improve the NPE would be to have similarly SP players playing together.
Aisaka Tiaga Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 13	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:10:00 - [15] - Quote Nelo Angel0 wrote: Aisaka Tiaga wrote: Nelo Angel0 wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Stay out of Ambush then. It's seriously that simple. By continuing to spawn and play Ambush, you are just feeding them. I worry about people sometimes. Shouldn't have to do that. Not really something to help vets, more along the line to help the NPE, but shouldn't we be matchmaking with people within our SP range? I thought that was one of the things introduced back when uprising first released. So why are blueberries still getting caught in pub stomp matches? Na they invented scotty as a way of removing the warbarge from whining hootapops, its not really a matchmaking system lol i missed the warbarge TBH, Some of the maps look like **** without the pre render from warbarge ( if it even ever did that ). You would think that the first thing to try and do with the matchmaking to improve the NPE would be to have similarly SP players playing together. I loved the warbarge :) plus it gave people time to restock or whatever, now it just takes 5 mins to get into a match. As for the matchmaking, you would think so, wouldn't you? Unfortunetly CCP seem a bit slow on things. Clone of Yokal Bob If you don't watch anime then you are not alive
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2304	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:10:00 - [16] - Quote So, you have a picture of a HAV in Ambush? Here's a game I just came from in Domination. Was I in a HAV? No. Was I in a squad? No, that's very rare and only in FW. Was I idling? No. Know what I was? A motherfuckin' logibro. Uplinks, repair tool, hives, revives. The only guy I killed was someone that was cloaked and after I killed him, I shot his R/Es off the point and took the objective by myself. What was my ISK gain? 440,442. SP? 30,070 thanks to my regular active booster. You think HAVs are overpowered? I don't always logibro, but when I do, I make sure to top the board. Nerf me. Nerf my 'Dren' Logistic with advanced equipment and only Minmatar Logistic II. People seem to have forgotten how to logibro. P.S. No, I did not drop a warbarge. I don't need something so easy. This is a signature. You have been enlightened.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 355	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:10:00 - [17] - Quote The bonuses are fruity at best, my mass effect, forge and plasma cannon all fire blanks right now Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 355	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:15:00 - [18] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: So, you have a picture of a HAV in Ambush? Here's a game I just came from in Domination. Was I in a HAV? No. Was I in a squad? No, that's very rare and only in FW. Was I idling? No. Know what I was? A motherfuckin' logibro. Uplinks, repair tool, hives, revives. The only guy I killed was someone that was cloaked and after I killed him, I shot his R/Es off the point and took the objective by myself. What was my ISK gain? 440,442. SP? 30,070 thanks to my regular active booster. You think HAVs are overpowered? I don't always logibro, but when I do, I make sure to top the board. Nerf me. Nerf my 'Dren' Logistic with advanced equipment and only Minmatar Logistic II. People seem to have forgotten how to logibro. P.S. No, I did not drop a warbarge. I don't need something so easy. Um...off-topic much? How does you topping the board in fw as a logi counterpart a discussion about tanks mauling thru ambush? I'm neither pro or con about the issue I just fail to see the correlation? Ps: topping the charts with odd kdr is what logis do? Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2305	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:19:00 - [19] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Um...off-topic much? How does you topping the board in fw as a logi counterpart a discussion about tanks mauling thru ambush? I'm neither pro or con about the issue I just fail to see the correlation? Ps: topping the charts with odd kdr is what logis do? What I've gotten from this thread is that someone topped the board in a HAV and that seemed problematic. However, the core issue with Ambush right now is not the people that top the board in HAVs, but the people that are readily feeding them those scores. It may seem off-topic, but what I'm attempting to say is that it really isn't that hard to top the board. HAVs topping the board is about as common as a logibro sitting on the top as well. And no, that wasn't FW. If it was FW I would probably have been kicked for team killing the little *** that wouldn't do anything but feed the enemy team. I haven't been in FW in... a while. Added note: I should also add that, if I remember correctly, naming and shaming is against the rules. Aside from all of this stop feeding Ambush HAVers kills.** This is a signature. You have been enlightened.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2211	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:05:00 - [20] - Quote There is nothing wrong with tanks in Ambush, FFS the enemy team can only field 2... Te problem is IMO the large blaster guns. A heavy vehicle with 5 K + HP and Godly rep capabilities shouldn't have a giant AR strapped to the roof. The anti personell role should be reserved for the second and third gunner. But who am I to deny their EZ-mode, I mean, I was a logi for a year... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.

Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1097	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:08:00 - [21] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Um...off-topic much? How does you topping the board in fw as a logi counterpart a discussion about tanks mauling thru ambush? I'm neither pro or con about the issue I just fail to see the correlation? Ps: topping the charts with odd kdr is what logis do? What I've gotten from this thread is that someone topped the board in a HAV and that seemed problematic. However, the core issue with Ambush right now is not the people that top the board in HAVs, but the people that are readily feeding them those scores. It may seem off-topic, but what I'm attempting to say is that it really isn't that hard to top the board. HAVs topping the board is about as common as a logibro sitting on the top as well. And no, that wasn't FW. If it was FW I would probably have been kicked for team killing the little *** that wouldn't do anything but feed the enemy team. I haven't been in FW in... a while. Added note: I should also add that, if I remember correctly, naming and shaming is against the rules. Aside from all of this stop feeding Ambush HAVers kills.** I am a logi bro, I have nearly 6million war points lol! Check the leaderboards. The OP doesn't say anything about topping the leaderboards infact I do this every game. It was merely suggesting that Tanks should not be allowed in ambush because of their clear advantage over ground infantry. With CEOPyrex's most recent videos this is part of the problem and contributes to the terrible new player experience. CCP should have just removed tanks and ADS from ambush when they dropped it down to two. Its a liopleuradon Charlie a magical lioplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2723	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:15:00 - [22] - Quote They're an organised squad. It is not unusual to see squads scoring ten kills apiece in ambush; literally the only difference here is that Merch scored most of those. I don't know about that match in particular but I'm also guessing he was using a decently fit tank with small turrets in that particular match. In the end, Merch is a skilled, experienced tanker and he has just as much right to practice his trade in ambush as does anyone else - especially when it's a pretty normal result. For the record, I have serious problems with blasters in their current incarnation. ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2307	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:16:00 - [23] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: I am a logi bro, I have nearly 6million war points lol! Check the leaderboards. The OP doesn't say anything about topping the leaderboards infact I do this every game. It was merely suggesting that Tanks should not be allowed in ambush because of their clear advantage over ground infantry. With CEOPyrex's most recent videos this is part of the problem and contributes to the terrible new player experience. CCP should have just removed tanks and ADS from ambush when they dropped it down to two. I could care less about how much WP you have. Leaderboards are worthless in my eyes and are about as appealing as DLC for Battlefield 4 (and are worth even less). But back to the whole vehicle issue with Ambush- I agree with the removal of vehicles from Ambush. They've posed as an issue ever since OMS and regular Ambush merged into one. At least in OMS it was a given that you could possibly combat vehicles with installations (though why would you when lolswarms?). The very nature of what Ambush is... why are there vehicles in a strictly clone-count based mode? As for the new player experience, the sheer root of that is the lack of a stable environment. Academy is, yes, semi-stable, but it's easily able to be invaded by older players (and this does happen). After the Academy, the new players are thrown to the vets in an unrestricted field. Vehicles in Ambush, in no way, contributes to the NPE. If you say it does, then you also cannot deny that Domination and Skirmish are also part of the contribution to the NPE. There's only a few solutions to the stabilization of the NPE and perhaps the most beneficial, to everyone, is PVE. This is a signature. You have been enlightened.
Nelo Angel0 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 236	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:49:00 - [24] - Quote Aisaka Tiaga wrote: [quote=Nelo Angel0][quote=Aisaka Tiaga][quote=Nelo Angel0][quote=jerrmy12 kahoalii][ I loved the warbarge :) plus it gave people time to restock or whatever, now it just takes 5 mins to get into a match. As for the matchmaking, you would think so, wouldn't you? Unfortunetly CCP seem a bit slow on things. Better yet here's a thought i'm sure someone else probably mentioned it by now but i just thought of how it'd work. In pub matches you fight against people with similar rank In contracts from EvE players it's a free for all where the EvE players send us on specifics missions which determine the game mode. So if they told us to take control of a certain part X planet we'd be playing skirmish so it's like a mini PC gamemade and while EvE players battle it out in space and provide support of the dust players they sent in they risk getting hit by planetary defenses if the opposing team wins. This brings me to my next point which is, the same game mode could turn into a puesdo endurance match in which EvE players buy more clones and then transport those clones back to the planet ( with the defenses still up ) and now it becomes a defend and hold type game mode ( or skirmish 1.0 from what i hear ) But none of that would work without the installation OMS so said EvE player can launch CRUs on a spot indictated by dust players. There's actually alot of things they could do with this but I'll make a thread on it soon in one of the other forums
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 272	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:07:00 - [25] - Quote KingBabar wrote: There is nothing wrong with tanks in Ambush, FFS the enemy team can only field 2... Te problem is IMO the large blaster guns. A heavy vehicle with 5 K + HP and Godly rep capabilities shouldn't have a giant AR strapped to the roof. The anti personell role should be reserved for the second and third gunner. But who am I to deny their EZ-mode, I mean, I was a logi for a year... That's exactly the problem. That stupid large blaster turret. Eliminate it and tanks would be fine.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5035	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:46:00 - [26] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Ambush - Team Deathmatch Objective - To kill deplete the enemies clones Working as Intended Obviously a tanker who goes into ambush and hides in a tank I can't stand Ambush because I don't like Team Deathmatch modes in general. Boring and pointless. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2899	Posted - 2014.04.18 14:59:00 - [27] - Quote When someone kills nearly half the enemy clones in a match and doesn't die once, something is clearly imbalanced. Whatever you say about skill or matchmaking or being able to call in your own tanks, every ambush should not be a case of tanker cleans up. Large turrets should never be anti-infantry. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1098	Posted - 2014.04.18 15:11:00 - [28] - Quote Django Quik wrote: When someone kills nearly half the enemy clones in a match and doesn't die once, something is clearly imbalanced. Whatever you say about skill or matchmaking or being able to call in your own tanks, every ambush should not be a case of tanker cleans up. Large turrets should never be anti-infantry. +1 Its a liopleuradon Charlie a magical lioplueradon, its gunna guide our way to candy mountain!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2019	Posted - 2014.04.18 16:11:00 - [29] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: http://i.imgur.com/N8GGasO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/43NWLRt.jpg EDIT: I think I will collect a bunch of pictures and post them all here You're still complaining about ambush. If I was head of CCP, I would've come to the realization that most, if not 99% of the people that complain about tanks, are in ambush 99% of the time. At that point, I would've said "Fine, we're nerfing vehicle count from 7 to 4. That's it." Why? Because you all complain that you can't solo a tank with less than minimal effort. You can't destroy it with a charge sniper rifle, and you can't destroy it with an MH82, and you can't destroy a Gunnlogi with an ELM laser rifle. I then would've started locking threads that complain about tanks, then offering people short vacations from the forums. Why? Because we get individual nerfs, while for AV to get nerfed, requires a whole rework of the AV-vehicle relationship. When infantry complained about contact grenades, they were nerfed into the ground. When tankers complained about AV grenades, infantry said "LOL HTFU" and that was that. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 2030	Posted - 2014.04.18 16:20:00 - [30] - Quote all you need is one rail tank. ISK Donuts are delicious Q_Q Moar



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