This is ... flawed ... in several ways, mostly related to the fact that pubs pit PC challengers directly against the class of PC powers (i.e. pubstompers).

The current "power" has the advantage that they can run top-tier gear while experimenting with any fit or vehicle they like. If you want to nerd out, they are in essence 'training' for PC because they get to 'pub' how they 'pc'.

Potential "Challengers" are forced to either accept routine defeat and forego 'training' in their preferred PC gear by running cheapfits and getting stomped, or they proto up themselves - which degrades their income and puts us back to square one: No one can generate the ISK to effectively challenge the PC class.

One can argue some of the above points, but it's basically a solid assessment of the situation. It's... not news. We've known it since the week PC came out.

DNS gets hated on because they're at the top of an unbalanced, imperfect system.

So looking down from on high one can either play the snide, arrogant aristocrat or have some class.

I vote arrogant aristocrat, but I also <3 Amarr so opinions may vary.

DNS is playing the game the way it's meant to be played. You may not like it, I know I don't, but kudos to them for doing it. Whether they're doing It for lulz, epeen stroking, proving a point to CCP or for ISK farming doesn't much matter. I think the most impressive thing they did was house all of those huge egos under one flag for this long.

All said and done, yes I'm upset that PC is at a "stalemate" currently, but it's not DNS' fault, or problem. Good job DNS.

The aim of Dust is to usher in an age of farming and peace?

I though we were clone mercenaries bred for war?

If PC is 100% in the hands of DNS it ceases to be a useful of viable game modes and there is no point in having it, but to provide members with ISK they are doing nothing to earn.

In the end I don't really care. I maintain a solid 6 Million ISK account balances and I practically only ever play FW, being the only game mode I actually want to play, just pointing out the fallacies of a player base that preaches competition and currently has blued up completely the most competitive game mode.......

The alliance probably won't be long term. We want to fight each other for fun, not fight early in the day against some pretend heroes.


I just want ESO to come out then I'll be afk from Dust for a good time. I need a break :/

Not in sense that DNS is abusing it as its attended to.

Passive Isk from your district is an abuse. Not mainly on you guys but its a bad pc mechanic that needs to be fixed. In eve you have to pay the land you hold. Same should apply to Dust514. This will then settle the mass holding of land. BUTTTT it might be to late because DNS as a whole probably has a lifetime isk stock xD. But Just one way the alliance is abusing the Bad PC Mechanics. Only if the developer can fix it ^___^

I'm curious


Everyone keeps saying DNS is abusing PC and cheating so please explain. No one has explained how and avoids answering the question so please do explain how DNS is abusing PC.



Things you can't list for common sense reasons that still have to be mentioned because many of you don't have common sense.

- District locking: All of you have done it and many of you have done it waaaaaaaaaay before most of the corps in DNS did it. No one here is inncoent

- PC lags in general just like how the Gallente facility in pubs lags in general. So you can't point fingers and blame anyone for the game lagging. Ask anyone that actually has had a decent amount of PC experience and they will tell you that PC lags. That is why people restart Dust before playing PC, so they lag as least as possible. Do it, trust me it helps.

Side note: Many of you will probably just come up with random ******** but please just list stuff that has been proven to be true. If you post something new, have proof.











QQ Kane

3. Your using PC as a way to force people to join your alliance so you guys have an increased tax percentage into your wallets.

Easy:

1. Your denying everyone else entry into PC, thus killing the game by lack of competitiveness and interest in community growth.

2. Your gaining Billions of ISK a day which puts you at the tippy top of the wealthiest in Dust while telling those that cant afford the **** you have scrubs that need to "get gud", demonstrating that your arrogant, selfish, ignorant and downright assholes.

3. Your using PC as a way to force people to join your alliance so you guys have an increased tax percentage into your wallets.

4. Your using the PC ISK to fund proto stomping which is killing the playerbase on the pub match spectrum.

5. You refuse to fight anyone on your level as evident of absorbing all the top 500 players in the game so you can get infinite ISK from broken ISK making PC mechanics.

did I miss anything?

I'm curious to how many would shoot themselves if ccp wiped out every ones isk :P

Easy:

1. Your denying everyone else entry into PC, thus killing the game by lack of competitiveness and interest in community growth.

2. Your gaining Billions of ISK a day which puts you at the tippy top of the wealthiest in Dust while telling those that cant afford the **** you have scrubs that need to "get gud", demonstrating that your arrogant, selfish, ignorant and downright assholes.

3. Your using PC as a way to force people to join your alliance so you guys have an increased tax percentage into your wallets.

4. Your using the PC ISK to fund proto stomping which is killing the playerbase on the pub match spectrum.

5. You refuse to fight anyone on your level as evident of absorbing all the top 500 players in the game so you can get infinite ISK from broken ISK making PC mechanics.

did I miss anything?

1) It is called planetary conquest. Not "lets all hold hands like a bunch of hippies". Just saying bro

2) What else are we supposed to do with it? Give it to the community? Not after the intense tearfest they put on, at least I wouldn't do it.

3) Lol what?

4) ...... have you even ran proto before? I have, I run better with ADV gear. proto isn't all that impressive.

5) The problem with your argument here is that you forget about the multiple times we did fight each other all the time. Whenever a lower tier corp had to fight AE, they called up FA, and Vice Versa. We simply got sick of it.

It's not a matter of abuse.

Such a mono-polar state of affairs was nearly inevitable eventually; it just required the will to do it.

Literally the only reason EoN didn't do what DNS has done is because the EoN community is built by FPS types here for the 'good fights', who 'caught feelz' and didn't want to 'ruin the game'. During EoN's rise they also weren't tied to EvE so didn't see the point of MAXIMIZING ISK generation and to a certain extent MAG types seem to be against being perceived as the evil empire. Timing related to the growth of the economy, SP, and the size of the 'challenger' pool has a lot to do with it too I think, but I digress...

1. You are not entitled to districts. You are arrogant to say how people should play in sandbox gameplay.

2. The generation of ISK on districts of which again you are not entitled to, players can decide to band together and take over regions like in Eve how they can go about doing that and what rewards that they get in return falls on CCP.

3. Baseless speculation

4. People who are experienced and are good players have never had funding problems outside PC.

5. If the rationale applies that the 'Top 500' can band together and take over MH solely by themselves than solely those corps should be the only ones in PC if they weren't in a alliance together, since it shows that no other corps outside of DNS are capable of fending for themselves.


You must remember the most important aspect is come planet expansion into Nullsec Dust corps will most likely have to aligned themselves to larger alliance already situated in Nullsec, this already happens in Eve of course due to the sheer fact that no one corp or alliance can simply step in without being initiated into larger coalitions without being crushed by basically every entity within Nullsec. So the situation is already a reality in Dust and Eve where you can not apply any standards to a sandbox game. This game will fail because of the amount of unpolished , unbalanced mechanics and weapons not because the player base chose to use any one of them.

Easy:

1. Your denying everyone else entry into PC, thus killing the game by lack of competitiveness and interest in community growth.

2. Your gaining Billions of ISK a day which puts you at the tippy top of the wealthiest in Dust while telling those that cant afford the **** you have scrubs that need to "get gud", demonstrating that your arrogant, selfish, ignorant and downright assholes.

3. Your using PC as a way to force people to join your alliance so you guys have an increased tax percentage into your wallets.

4. Your using the PC ISK to fund proto stomping which is killing the playerbase on the pub match spectrum.

5. You refuse to fight anyone on your level as evident of absorbing all the top 500 players in the game so you can get infinite ISK from broken ISK making PC mechanics.

did I miss anything?