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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 00:33:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:I'm curious Everyone keeps saying DNS is abusing PC and cheating so please explain. No one has explained how and avoids answering the question so please do explain how DNS is abusing PC. Things you can't list for common sense reasons that still have to be mentioned because many of you don't have common sense. - District locking: All of you have done it and many of you have done it waaaaaaaaaay before most of the corps in DNS did it. No one here is inncoent  - PC lags in general just like how the Gallente facility in pubs lags in general. So you can't point fingers and blame anyone for the game lagging. Ask anyone that actually has had a decent amount of PC experience and they will tell you that PC lags. That is why people restart Dust before playing PC, so they lag as least as possible. Do it, trust me it helps. Side note: Many of you will probably just come up with random ******** but please just list stuff that has been proven to be true. If you post something new, have proof. QQ Kane
This issue is mainly with the ISK though. By abusing locking, and everyone is PC are responsible for this, you have created the worst imbalance this game could possibly have seen before a true market was implemented, and that is ISK imbalance.
As a section of the community, the dominant parts never have to worry about ISK ever again, now in any game mode outside of PC you enter you are fundamentally unbalancing gameplay....mainly Pubs, which you all look down on with disdain.... that attitude is wrong.
PC should have been a monster of a game mode so that one faction could never afford to hold, or be able to hold 100%, or even 50%..... it should have been a place for meta, not for donuts under one new allegiance banner after another.
I'm poor as ****, have no reason to enter PC, not because I don't seek competition, but because initial ISK ceiling is huge, and because apparently now I need to be a member DNS to even attempt to get in it? Thats never how PC should have been...... but understandably if PC ever opens up even DNS cannot control the whole of New Eden.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 01:15:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:I'm curious Everyone keeps saying DNS is abusing PC and cheating so please explain. No one has explained how and avoids answering the question so please do explain how DNS is abusing PC. Things you can't list for common sense reasons that still have to be mentioned because many of you don't have common sense. - District locking: All of you have done it and many of you have done it waaaaaaaaaay before most of the corps in DNS did it. No one here is inncoent - PC lags in general just like how the Gallente facility in pubs lags in general. So you can't point fingers and blame anyone for the game lagging. Ask anyone that actually has had a decent amount of PC experience and they will tell you that PC lags. That is why people restart Dust before playing PC, so they lag as least as possible. Do it, trust me it helps. Side note: Many of you will probably just come up with random ******** but please just list stuff that has been proven to be true. If you post something new, have proof. QQ Kane This issue is mainly with the ISK though. By abusing locking, and everyone is PC are responsible for this, you have created the worst imbalance this game could possibly have seen before a true market was implemented, and that is ISK imbalance. As a section of the community, the dominant parts never have to worry about ISK ever again, now in any game mode outside of PC you enter you are fundamentally unbalancing gameplay....mainly Pubs, which you all look down on with disdain.... that attitude is wrong. PC should have been a monster of a game mode so that one faction could never afford to hold, or be able to hold 100%, or even 50%..... it should have been a place for meta, not for donuts under one new allegiance banner after another. I'm poor as ****, have no reason to enter PC, not because I don't seek competition, but because initial ISK ceiling is huge, and because apparently now I need to be a member DNS to even attempt to get in it? Thats never how PC should have been...... but understandably if PC ever opens up even DNS cannot control the whole of New Eden. Isk imbalance is mainly CCP's doing. Players just made it even stronger. There will always be rich and poor though. We don't look down on pubs, they just get boring after a while. As does PC PC was never a monster of a mode, it has only been a place of isk farmers and people looking out for themselves. PC has always been a meh version of skirm.
No doubt but because there is no economy there is no flow of ISK, just a haemorrhaging of ISK into the pockets of the filthy rich, which in turn is rarely destroyed either because there is not fighting, or the rate of destruction cannot keep with with the rate of ISK injections.
I would have prefered PC to be a monster of a mode, sliding sovereignty scales, slow takes overs, a district of everyone, weight of numbers being a factor, out of corp or allaince ISK flow, coalitions, etc.
I'm not saying they shouldnt reap the rewards of owning many districts......but instead that either there need to be more avaialble, or the upkeep on controlling many districts is high enough to dissuade total control, but not prevent it if someone wants to prove a point, while being untenable to hold long term.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 01:30:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Fire2MyBlunt wrote:Not in sense that DNS is abusing it as its attended to.
Passive Isk from your district is an abuse. Not mainly on you guys but its a bad pc mechanic that needs to be fixed. In eve you have to pay the land you hold. Same should apply to Dust514. This will then settle the mass holding of land. BUTTTT it might be to late because DNS as a whole probably has a lifetime isk stock xD. But Just one way the alliance is abusing the Bad PC Mechanics. Only if the developer can fix it ^___^ Then why would anyone play PC? Everyone keeps complaining that PC is broken, but this game is about conquering. If there is no incentive to conquer, then why do it? Isk is the only thing important in Dust right now, seeing as we only have pubs and PC. I've heard plenty of alternate solutions to fixing dust and PC, but it just sounds like a carebear world to me, and the simple fact of PC is to show that only the strong can survive, or the weak buddy up with the strong and send them videos of these techniques.
CCP has been trying to remove passive ISK gain for years....... I'm surprised they tolerate this.
And no Derrith is isn't care bear logic.
Since you are a part of the Donut dominating this of course you would defend it, you don't have to do anything, and you can play this game in whatever way you want, whenever you want.
If only the strong survive why are you in favour of a system that doesn't encourage competition, meta, or managing of resources and timers?
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 01:42:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:tolerate? Have you not seen them let nullsec passive farm with no end forever? ugh I ate to much pizza i need to lay down
They can't really do anything to the Null - Sec passive ISK farm that is PI.....that's not to say CCP is supportive or in favour of it.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 01:58:00 -
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Fire2MyBlunt wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Fire2MyBlunt wrote:Not in sense that DNS is abusing it as its attended to.
Passive Isk from your district is an abuse. Not mainly on you guys but its a bad pc mechanic that needs to be fixed. In eve you have to pay the land you hold. Same should apply to Dust514. This will then settle the mass holding of land. BUTTTT it might be to late because DNS as a whole probably has a lifetime isk stock xD. But Just one way the alliance is abusing the Bad PC Mechanics. Only if the developer can fix it ^___^ Then why would anyone play PC? Everyone keeps complaining that PC is broken, but this game is about conquering. If there is no incentive to conquer, then why do it? Isk is the only thing important in Dust right now, seeing as we only have pubs and PC. I've heard plenty of alternate solutions to fixing dust and PC, but it just sounds like a carebear world to me, and the simple fact of PC is to show that only the strong can survive, or the weak buddy up with the strong and send them videos of these techniques. Not care bear tatic at all. Its what is done on EVE so should be implemented on Dust514 as well if you have a PvP system going on. It then doesn't allow people to controll 100% of things and keeps competition in the game. And when you talk about care bearing , all this is doing is care bearing your wallet with lifetime stocks of Passive isk . You want us to fight back but how can we fight back when we have no larger clone packs to fight back with and Not enough isk to wage war against an enemy that keeps generating PASSIVE isk. Not your fault as well . just a bad game mechanic that needs to be fixed. Now by the time it's fixed lets say MH gets taken over and corporations start fighting back ETC. And you start losing a lot of land . You guys have enough isk stocked up to just mass attack all of MH to take it all back in one night . Now do you see where i am going here. I'm not QQing either just pointing out the bad mechanics part of the PvP system.
That's why is would be better to have sovereignty systems for PC in place, slower take overs, more attrition and ISK loss to take systems and planets, less overall net gain, more time for competition, more need for numerical superiority, more need to out of alliance hiring and work, etc.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:17:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:DNS is playing the game the way it's meant to be played. You may not like it, I know I don't, but kudos to them for doing it. Whether they're doing It for lulz, epeen stroking, proving a point to CCP or for ISK farming doesn't much matter. I think the most impressive thing they did was house all of those huge egos under one flag for this long.
All said and done, yes I'm upset that PC is at a "stalemate" currently, but it's not DNS' fault, or problem. Good job DNS.
The aim of Dust is to usher in an age of farming and peace?
I though we were clone mercenaries bred for war?
If PC is 100% in the hands of DNS it ceases to be a useful of viable game modes and there is no point in having it, but to provide members with ISK they are doing nothing to earn.
In the end I don't really care. I maintain a solid 6 Million ISK account balances and I practically only ever play FW, being the only game mode I actually want to play, just pointing out the fallacies of a player base that preaches competition and currently has blued up completely the most competitive game mode.......
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