No, that means if i try to sneak up on a scout then he "auto decloaks" and he knows i'm there.

That would also mean being anywhere near the ground would decloak me.

That's your logic.

Also, it's 2500m, not km.

yeah that's the point... it means you have to be skilled with it instead of just turning it on and forgetting about tactics.

but I mean if you don't think you can handle tactical gameplay then you can always go play COD....

Whats the point of this idea if you can't use the cloak to its fullest potential? why do you think we can be nearly completely invisible when standing still? to hide when enemies past by next to you unsuspected or avoid being seen.

flux grenades should have ability to uncloak as it is damaging all electronics.

it should also temporally disable scanners.

fun.

No, that means if i try to sneak up on a scout then he "auto decloaks" and he knows i'm there.

I can understand people hampering it's offensive capabilities, but now making it useless as a getaway tool? I'd never run cloak.

yeah that's the point... it means you have to be skilled with it instead of just turning it on and forgetting about tactics.

but I mean if you don't think you can handle tactical gameplay then you can always go play COD....

You obviously can't read

Why the hell...

So your solution is to completely break the cloak and make it useless. The only possible use it will have is hiding while traversing open terrain, which is barely effective as it is now with the blue shimmer and everyone and their mother noticing you if they even flash their reticule over you.

CLOAK DOES NOT NEED A NERF

Just make it a main weapon slot item that forces scouts to only use a sidearm if they use cloak. Along with this, if the brick tanks really peeve people (I've hardly even noticed it), then put a bigger movement speed decrease on them so that point defense units (such as heavies or people who want to fit their assaults that way) can use them properly.

But for the love of god, just because you're blind, the cloak itself does not need a nerf this idiotically massive.

lol another 1.8 scout panics at my suggestion...

long before 1.8 GOOD scouts were already doing what the rest of you are now using the cloak as a crutch for, and like I said this is NOT A NERF, I actually think you should be COMPLETELY invis, no blue shimmer...

what I'm asking for are counters... i.e. getting to close to hostiles, getting shot, a flux, or a piece of EWAR equipment that turns your cloak off....

so calm down.

also except that it will be changed eventually, theres enough outcry for it so learn to play with skill instead of a kdr padding crutch...

You think that having a way for someone else to forcibly uncloak someone is not a nerf? Are you seriously that mental? Your decreasing the viability of something in the game, i.e. nerfing it. It's not rocket science, and don't try to spin it.

And you already have a counter. You can actually see people when they move! Outrageous, right? I run both assaults and scouts, and people who are cloaked are ridiculously easy to see and shoot. Even when they're still, the distortions are noticeable, especially the second after you put your reticule over them and notice it randomly turning red. Quit making excuses, your idea is terrible.

Again, just because you're blind doesn't mean that the cloak needs a nerf.

yeah that's the point... it means you have to be skilled with it instead of just turning it on and forgetting about tactics.

but I mean if you don't think you can handle tactical gameplay then you can always go play COD....

Whats the point of this idea if you can't use the cloak to its fullest potential? why do you think we can be nearly completely invisible when standing still? to hide when enemies past by next to you unsuspected or avoid being seen.

Needing the cloak to decloak within certain meters simply because you can't see it, and therefore nerfing it, sounds very CoD like... which is removing tactical gameplay. I honestly don't know why cloaks are an issue. To me, unless the background behind the cloaked scout is VERY bright, they are extremely noticeable. There are plenty of people who can see the cloak just fine. It seems like the unskilled and blind minority wants them nerfed to hell...

well it works just like this in eve and yet the cloak is a very viable tool.... do some research.

a cloak should not be an active engagement weapon, it should be a tactical tool used to gain an initial advantage in combat, to flank, to drop links behind enemy lines... to, wait for it... SCOUT enemy locations and their fire power, to hunt snipers, to set traps with RE's...I could go on

its unfortunate all most of you can think to do with a cloak is blap people in the back of the head with a shotgun... I don't believe for a second that was ccp's intent for its use....

That's how it works with massive ships, yet this is infantry, an entirely different game in terms of strategy. Also, shotguns are not an issue whatsoever. Any weapon used with the cloak is just as effective, so stop blaming one particular weapon for your troubles. With the Eve universe as large as it is, compared to how infinitesimal infantry is, a ship decloaking in front of you is not a huge surprise, and you have plenty of time to run, assuming you're paying attention. The cloak in infantry is an assassins tool, used to get around and about through enemy lines. Scouts were quite pathetic without ti, yet everyone is on the bandwagon that they're OP, yet I have no issues with seeing them, nor in the way they work. The only suggestion I could make in "nerfing" the cloak, would be to reduce how much time it takes to decloak manually or switching to your weapon or equipment. Sincerely, try to be aware of your surroundings and stop playing like a frickin' casual noob form CoD.

EDIT: judging by godin and the 2 likes he got 3 people so far have only read the first line of this post... don't fail like they did....

in eve, a cloaked ship is automatically uncloaked within 2500m of anything, even a jet can.

I think there should be a similar mechanic in dust. either an automatic decloak within 10 meters of anything hostile to them or a piece of EWAR equipment that can be activated to uncloak everything within 20 meters.

I also think getting shot while cloaked should uncloak the merc, and any forcible measure that does uncloak them should burn it out temporarily.

come at me bro!

I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get the kitchen sink thrown at you for this idea , you know how scout's are .

I don't agree because that is what the flux is " suppose " to do .

Nice ideal's though .

I use a cloak sometimes myself while A .V ing and that's the only thing wrong with it in my eyes , besides the fact that you shouldn't be able to attack or drop equipment with it while cloaked .

Not having the flux do something to the cloak is just not right . Player's can use it to kill my shield's ... then me or my vehicle's but it has no effect on the cloak ???

Think the power to sustain three to five thousand in shield's should be more than it takes to power a cloak .

EDIT: judging by godin and the 2 likes he got 3 people so far have only read the first line of this post... don't fail like they did....

in eve, a cloaked ship is automatically uncloaked within 2500m of anything, even a jet can.

I think there should be a similar mechanic in dust. either an automatic decloak within 10 meters of anything hostile to them or a piece of EWAR equipment that can be activated to uncloak everything within 20 meters.

I also think getting shot while cloaked should uncloak the merc, and any forcible measure that does uncloak them should burn it out temporarily.

come at me bro!