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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:19:00 -
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so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc
The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m. it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before.
it still requires skill and understanding to use though
the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine.
allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon. i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8
i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7
the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault
if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer http://imgur.com/SirorZe
http://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4
these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point.
i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death.
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:24:00 -
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I'm very respectful of laser rifle users at range and across open spaces. Otherwise I have a handful of "getcho@&&whupt" to deliver to anyone silly enough to still be holding it, or hanging around when I get there.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
12
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:30:00 -
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Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2167
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:31:00 -
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I've loved the LR since literally the day CCP released it.
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TCP Logihoe
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:46:00 -
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I fry mercs as there bullets land at my feet the only problem i get is when it over heats i cant hit them with it to apply that feedback damage to their face. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:50:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... its delayed with your hp when your hp finalizes and fills all your skill bonus's apply for all suits..so yes..the laser rifle over heats at round 20 once skill applies...this actaully effects everything uplink times repper range all skills do not apply when u spawn..so when you see your hp at a reduced lvl just be aware it will over heat at 40..
also i find trueblood tanking your amar assault is the only way to go with lr
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:51:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:I'm very respectful of laser rifle users at range and across open spaces. Otherwise I have a handful of "getcho@&&whupt" to deliver to anyone silly enough to still be holding it, or hanging around when I get there. which is why my lr assault suits all have 1 dmg mod dedicated to a side arm that i am max lvl in
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:53:00 -
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More people need to take that approach then lol.
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Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
278
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:53:00 -
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It's currently so good that my commando runs it as the main weapon, with an AR or CR as a CQC backup. It let's you dictate engagements so effortlessly it really is absurd, once you learn that you need to bait enemies out of close cover and into the open to engage you, you have them. Not even their rail rifles can save them.
It's not an easy weapon to use,nor even to fit, but by God is it good. I love it.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
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Forever ETC
703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
246
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:53:00 -
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Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit?
Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd.
Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
THIS IS AMARR!!!
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:54:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? because thats how it was fit at the time for whatever reason..it may be a pre 1.8 shot tbh..im not sure it was on my phone..
actually yeah i just looked the 22/1 stnd laser rifle on adv amar assault was pre 1.8 ...the 32/1 was post
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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Aleksander Black
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
251
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:20:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... its delayed with your hp when your hp finalizes and fills all your skill bonus's apply for all suits..so yes..the laser rifle over heats at round 20 once skill applies...this actaully effects everything uplink times repper range all skills do not apply when u spawn..so when you see your hp at a reduced lvl just be aware it will over heat at 40.. also i find trueblood tanking your amar assault is the only way to go with lr
Define "trueblood tanking" an amarr assault suit please? All plates? You got me curious.
I've been messing around with the LR for quite a while now but every time I'm considering going proto on it something more urgent comes up. At any rate, I gave it quite a run during the commando event and that thing is a monster. I love it. I melted whole squads from distance, laughing like a maniac as I scored triple kills with the same beam. With time you start to figure out the perfect spots in each map to position yourself, that weapon is so much fun and definitely not up. You just need a steady aim and some range. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2805
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:27:00 -
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The ADS speed is a bit to fast for my liking but besides that its a great weapon.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:30:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:WARxion ForDUST wrote:Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... its delayed with your hp when your hp finalizes and fills all your skill bonus's apply for all suits..so yes..the laser rifle over heats at round 20 once skill applies...this actaully effects everything uplink times repper range all skills do not apply when u spawn..so when you see your hp at a reduced lvl just be aware it will over heat at 40.. also i find trueblood tanking your amar assault is the only way to go with lr Define "trueblood tanking" an amarr assault suit please? All plates? You got me curious. I've been messing around with the LR for quite a while now but every time I'm considering going proto on it something more urgent comes up. At any rate, I gave it quite a run during the commando event and that thing is a monster. I love it. I melted whole squads from distance, laughing like a maniac as I scored triple kills with the same beam. With time you start to figure out the perfect spots in each map to position yourself, that weapon is so much fun and definitely not up. You just need a steady aim and some range. um not all plates but i run 3 dmg mods 2 for my lr 1 for my side arm i run the lr of = lvl to the suit..all my suits start with 1 comp repper and then plates...and i run the k17 heal resupplys or alloteks accordingly
so my stnd aar assault has the stnd lr 2 dmg mods and 1 repper no plates
my adv has 2 dmg mods comp repper 1 plate..my proto 3 dmg mods 1 comp repper 2 plates..
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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Aleksander Black
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
251
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:33:00 -
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Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2246
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:34:00 -
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I've always thought it was a support weapon since it is not that good at close range. Yes, you can get kills, but unless you're good with sidearms, you're toast upclose. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2246
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:35:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2222
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:35:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m. it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before. it still requires skill and understanding to use though the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine. allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon. i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8 i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7 the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer http://imgur.com/SirorZehttp://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point. i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death.
I have gotten scores like that in a GALLENTE COMMANDO in pub matches.
It doesnt make it viable in PC Morte. |
Aleksander Black
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
251
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:37:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Aleksander Black wrote:Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:42:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Joel II X wrote:Aleksander Black wrote:Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro you can try running 1 complex repper with 1 complex reative and 1 enhanced thats what i do sometimes
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.04.13 15:43:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m. it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before. it still requires skill and understanding to use though the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine. allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon. i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8 i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7 the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer http://imgur.com/SirorZehttp://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point. i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death. I have gotten scores like that in a GALLENTE COMMANDO in pub matches. It doesnt make it viable in PC Morte. i consider pc to be a broken game mode not one to judge somethings viability on i go to fw and stomp and i 1v1 proto all the time my lr vs they're weapons...thats judge enough for me
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1409
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Posted - 2014.04.13 17:48:00 -
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I still think they could use a 10-20m buff to effective (not optimal) range. While they were buffed in some ways with 1.8, they also got a couple of nerfs. The nerf to proficiency REALY hurts this gun. It also overheats faster with Amarr Assault 5 + the Visiam than pre-1.8. You have narrow windows of opportunity to kill with the LR of only 2-3 seconds. The rest of the time you're reloading, overheating, positioning, preheating, in cover recovering shields/armor from sniper fire, or respawning from being ganked by a cloaks scout. You have to make those few seconds really count. The nerf to overheat time shortens that effective window by a significant percentage. A smart opponent will dodge in-and-out of cover so you waste your preheat and have to reload, but if they're dumb enough to stand still, it will wreck them with headshots.
It's the most unique and fun weapon in any FPS game I've ever played. I still think it could use a bit more polish. An increase of 10-20m effective range, adjustments to Aim Assist in line with the range increase, a bit of tweaking on the ADS sensitivity, possibly a slight decrease to heat buildup through the tiers, just to widen the kill window a bit more, and it would be pretty close to perfect IMO. CCP could even reduce the up-close damage to 1.7 levels to counter-balance these changes and I'd be fine with that.
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Bulletmonkey50
Savage Bullet
30
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Posted - 2014.04.13 18:08:00 -
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Lasering since it came out, message me, never been in a full laser squad
I think they need to lower the ads sensitivity, you twitch and your off your target who's 100m away. Its hard to use the extra 10 meters of range when its very twitchy |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
2942
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Posted - 2014.04.13 18:14:00 -
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I went 28/4 recently with it...you just need to know how to use it, and have the enemies to kill with it.
Do you usually get the kill at the end of the heat build-up? Like around 80ish for the amarr assault? Because compared to the amarr commando, the amarr assault seems to work 10x better because of the extended heat buildup due to the assault bonus.
Let me know if you would like another proto amarr assault. I can stop by pie ground control, or another chat channel if you'd like.
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juqa
DUST University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2014.04.13 18:38:00 -
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If you ever need another proto laser user, hit me up. I've invested the most sp in the laser than any other weapon |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1491
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Posted - 2014.04.13 19:21:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I went 28/4 recently with it...you just need to know how to use it, and have the enemies to kill with it.
Do you usually get the kill at the end of the heat build-up? Like around 80ish for the amarr assault? Because compared to the amarr commando, the amarr assault seems to work 10x better because of the extended heat buildup due to the assault bonus.
Let me know if you would like another proto amarr assault. I can stop by pie ground control, or another chat channel if you'd like. yeah i am always in pie and i would simply love to stomp with other laser rifle users.
i do sometimes get kills in those last 20 kills but when i do they are generally death touchs..
i think my longest kill feed from 1 beam...that being
viziam ona proto amar assault with 2 cmp dmg mods..towards the viz and prof v...between rounds fired number 1 and 80 at max i have squeezed 9 kills in a majority of the nine as many as 5 were in between rounds...50-80 those last 30 rounds are ******* deadly..and if you catch a ground of people ina tight space its just so funny.
i think with people more spread out my average is around 5 with 2 kills being in the first 40 rounds and 3 in last 40..
its all situational of course..but like u said shayz the lr is not bad it just requires knowledge of how to use it and some skill with aiming..i feel like the lr requires more precise aiming than allot of the guns in dust
now really some suits dont need to preheat at all if your a scout and your at 70m im not gunna try and preheat my lr if your caldari of any kind cept the sentinel im not going to preheat my lr...i can generally kill a cal or minnnie suit easily with the first 10-15 rounds from the lr
also after drake from irc told me about the lr's cqc ive been trying death touching with commando in cqc...i have death touched people at 6 m since 1.8 its crazy
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Principus Shmoof Triariian
Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services Armed-n-Hammered
105
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Posted - 2014.04.13 19:28:00 -
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If it ain't broke, don't mess with it. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3910
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Posted - 2014.04.13 19:37:00 -
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In 1.7 the laser had an optimum range. It's usfulness/range curve was easy to follow.
But now the damage & range is all out of whack.
The distance at which you do the most damage is the same distance at which it's too twitchy to aim reliably. The distance at which it's easy to aim is the same distance at which the zoom is too strong. And finally, the distance at which you can find a balance between these is the same distance at which it is still outgunned by Combat & Rail rifles.
I don't think it was realistically buffed with 1.8. I did better with it in 1.7. I just think its effectiveness has been unevenly spread over a wider area.
No.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3910
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Posted - 2014.04.13 19:40:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Aleksander Black wrote:Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro
There is no Reactive plate setup that cannot be beat by a combination of reps and plates. Anybody who fits more than one reactive on any suit simply hasn't done enough maths.
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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2014.04.13 20:02:00 -
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Love my laz0r on my Amarr Commando. I pair it up with the ScR for ultimate Amarrian awesomeness. |
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1996
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Posted - 2014.04.13 20:10:00 -
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Mo, you're OP with anything you use. Your opinion doesn't matter :D
click me
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1600
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Posted - 2014.04.13 20:27:00 -
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Mortedeamor, you belong in the Assault ak.0 Registry. We run the exact same fit, thats probably cause its the best fit for the Amarr Assault. I'd love to squad up or fight you again sometime soon o7
Always Remember (Hadah 4:20) "Dual Tanking is a sin"
The Sinwarden
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2169
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Posted - 2014.04.13 20:31:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Mortedeamor, you belong in the Assault ak.0 Registry. We run the exact same fit, thats probably cause its the best fit for the Amarr Assault. I'd love to squad up or fight you again sometime soon o7
Always Remember (Hadah 4:20) "Dual Tanking is a sin"
Theres an AK.0 registry? Why was I not aware of this?
Shape without form, shade without colour,
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1600
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Posted - 2014.04.13 20:43:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Mortedeamor, you belong in the Assault ak.0 Registry. We run the exact same fit, thats probably cause its the best fit for the Amarr Assault. I'd love to squad up or fight you again sometime soon o7
Always Remember (Hadah 4:20) "Dual Tanking is a sin" Theres an AK.0 registry? Why was I not aware of this?
I will bump it
The Sinwarden
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Zetsumi Ravencroft
Ultramarine Corp
41
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:21:00 -
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Having once tested the Laser Rifle out myself a few times, I will say that I do highly respect anyone who has learned to use the weapon effectively and can dominate with it. It is not a weapon that one can just pick up and go ballistic with like say the RR, AR, or CR due to its complete dependency on accuracy... it is completely hit or miss, if you do not get that beam on target, you are doing nothing where as the spread on an automatic/burst fire weapon means that you still might land a hit or two if your shots are somewhat off center.
Heck, if you do not react fast enough when a laser is put on you, you are going to melt with in seconds as that thing rips through your shields and armor... it is one of the few weapons I honestly fear being tagged with when I am running either of my two Sentinel fits because unless I have cover handy, I am either going to be severely wounded or I'm getting a hole burned through me.
M.A.G - Former RAVEN
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1495
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Posted - 2014.04.14 10:50:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Mortedeamor, you belong in the Assault ak.0 Registry. We run the exact same fit, thats probably cause its the best fit for the Amarr Assault. I'd love to squad up or fight you again sometime soon o7
Always Remember (Hadah 4:20) "Dual Tanking is a sin" Theres an AK.0 registry? Why was I not aware of this? dont feel bad i had no idea either lol and hell yeah lt would love to squad i am always in pie now and dns
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2526
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Posted - 2014.04.14 10:58:00 -
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The laser rifle, is powerful and rightly so. However it's lack of short range efficiency, rather skitish aiming system due to the insane zoom on a reflex sight, and the requirement that even when your missjng when you keep firing. Jas marginalised it somewhat.
But not because it's a poor weapon anymore, because it's a weapon which requires skill to operate effeciently. Although I would have the ADS automatically reduce your sensitivity somewhat, it is REALLY skitish.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2191
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Posted - 2014.04.14 11:09:00 -
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I just got my Viizam yesterday...
I'll join in if you can carry a scub in that Squad.....
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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RECON BY FIRE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
371
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Posted - 2014.04.14 11:16:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg.. the overheat function...
The overheat actually got severely nerfed, remember? The standard used to overheat at 60 and the proto was something like 70, and now they all overheat at 60 despite CCP stating they would expand the difference in overheat across tiers.
Stuff....?
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1589
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Posted - 2014.04.14 11:32:00 -
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laser is skitish......hmmmmm guess thats why I have problems getting kills with it. but then most folks 54 and older have a harder time aiming any videogame gun and most real guns except for the shotgun
still refuse to run aim assist.
perhaps I will try 10 for settings on ads and hipfire to see if it helps
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
Planetside 2 in June on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:26:00 -
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the laser is the only amarr wepaon i respect and use. i may be gallente but that wont stop mef rom useing my laser on my gk.o assault.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Cee Zet
Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:33:00 -
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IamLaserriflelovingbastard!
Hell, before 1.8 i start to skill the ScR and Laser, cause i dont like the RR and want something to beat them... and like that kind of weapon! After 1.8 i started to skill into the Amarrians. Protologi and adv. Assaullt.
As an dropuplink layin logi, i try to be aware of the cqc and will still stay behind the front. So this weapon supperts my playstyle. The Laserrifle is a beast when it is heaten up enough. Shoot, short break, cause enemy trys to hide, comes back, and shoot again. At the beginning i often got damaged by overheating, but its a feeling like you have to reload on other weapons.
It is one of these weapons, where the hole skilltree is need and usefull. - you need more ammunition! (never run out of ammo so often) - you need reload speed, cause with 30ammo and so much heavys on the open field, you wish to have :) - you need every damage bonus, cause still on the top of overheating bonus 3% will be the hell, also on armor - you need the pg bonus, cause no other weapon needs so much pg and cpu (okay maybe there is another weapon, but it still feels like a PG-eating monster)
But be aware. Positioning is everyting and if you dont change it, you will be hunted down. Cause you are the pain in the a...marrian Army!!!
No word for the Assaullt, he is an BEAST and if one time the skill applyin right,...bzzzzz+50zzz+50zz+50zz+50zzz...
Mostly i use STD-logi-suits with compl. rep and compl. armor std. shield recharge and extender, and r-9 and flux DULinks. Second weapon, the lovly `toxin` smg.
Assault is the same lowslots and damage mods on the high filled with compakt nanohive.
The protosuits are the same but more armor and more damage...
Laserrifle is exactly that kind of weapon what i need (cause im terrible in cqc).
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:33:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:the laser is the only amarr wepaon i respect and use. i may be gallente but that wont stop mef rom useing my laser on my gk.o assault.
I run a laser rifle on my min commando suit.....
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:34:00 -
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Does aim assist actually work on the laser rifle? I thought it only applies to some weapons and the laser rifle is not one of them. I only use the laser rifle from ADS which means no aim assist anyway. |
Cee Zet
Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:39:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Does aim assist actually work on the laser rifle? I thought it only applies to some weapons and the laser rifle is not one of them. I only use the laser rifle from ADS which means no aim assist anyway.
it works |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:44:00 -
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Cee Zet wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Does aim assist actually work on the laser rifle? I thought it only applies to some weapons and the laser rifle is not one of them. I only use the laser rifle from ADS which means no aim assist anyway. it works
I should try aiming from the hip at close ranges then. Thanks.
How effective is the aim assist at longer ranges?
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Vell0cet
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1410
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:01:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Does aim assist actually work on the laser rifle? I thought it only applies to some weapons and the laser rifle is not one of them. I only use the laser rifle from ADS which means no aim assist anyway. AA only works at ranges where other rifles will tear you to pieces. If you stay out past their effective ranges where you should be engaging from, the AA doesn't kick-in.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:05:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Does aim assist actually work on the laser rifle? I thought it only applies to some weapons and the laser rifle is not one of them. I only use the laser rifle from ADS which means no aim assist anyway. AA only works at ranges where other rifles will tear you to pieces. If you stay out past their effective ranges where you should be engaging from, the AA doesn't kick-in.
I've been in situations where I pre-heat against a wall and then side step out to hit a target that isn't that far away and then step back behind the wall before they have a chance to do much dmg to me. Aim assist might be quicker for aiming than ADS.
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:10:00 -
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The other day I was firing my laser at someone in the distance when a Caldari scout appeared in front of me and shotgunned me at point blank. Thing is, I had built up a fair amount of heat/dps with the rifle at this point and the scout managed to put his head right in the beam. I pretty much insta-killed the scout before I even really registered he was there. His one shotgun blast wasn't enough to kill me lol! Love the laser rifle. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.15 10:54:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:The other day I was firing my laser at someone in the distance when a Caldari scout appeared in front of me and shotgunned me at point blank. Thing is, I had built up a fair amount of heat/dps with the rifle at this point and the scout managed to put his head right in the beam. I pretty much insta-killed the scout before I even really registered he was there. His one shotgun blast wasn't enough to kill me lol! Love the laser rifle. i have had this exp as well ggbro
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.15 10:57:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:the laser is the only amarr wepaon i respect and use. i may be gallente but that wont stop mef rom useing my laser on my gk.o assault. i approve
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.15 10:59:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit?
I have and Exile AR on my proto.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1496
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:00:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? I have and Exile AR on my proto. i run an exile on my proto logi lol
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2330
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:03:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? I have and Exile AR on my proto. i run an exile on my proto logi lol Proto Min logi, I don't need a weapon on that suit because it is a pure logi build, I would use a Toxin SMG but I like having the range when my heavy needs covering fire or just wants to reload it also backs people up if I want to needle someone. The only other weapon I really use is the LR on a fat Templar or assault Templar.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:06:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? I have and Exile AR on my proto. i run an exile on my proto logi lol Proto Min logi, I don't need a weapon on that suit because it is a pure logi build, I would use a Toxin SMG but I like having the range when my heavy needs covering fire or just wants to reload it also backs people up if I want to needle someone. The only other weapon I really use is the LR on a fat Templar or assault Templar. mm i run repper injector 3 sec spawn on my amar logi...so its a i dont really need a gun but i have 2 type of deal ..
but thats ok because when i set the logi up with av it all works out
A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular
Long Live the Empress
Burn the Heretics
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:31:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? I have and Exile AR on my proto. i run an exile on my proto logi lol Proto Min logi, I don't need a weapon on that suit because it is a pure logi build, I would use a Toxin SMG but I like having the range when my heavy needs covering fire or just wants to reload it also backs people up if I want to needle someone. The only other weapon I really use is the LR on a fat Templar or assault Templar.
I use basic weapons on all of my logi fits. I want as much CPU/PG for equipment and tanking.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:22:00 -
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Good to see your still at it with the lazer mort . I'll be sure not to get in front of you with any of my cal suits . Keep on cooking.
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.16 05:41:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Does aim assist actually work on the laser rifle? I thought it only applies to some weapons and the laser rifle is not one of them. I only use the laser rifle from ADS which means no aim assist anyway.
it has no aim assist as it is a direct beam wepaon meanign it has to be on target. i have used it with just hip-fire adn boy is that accurate. anything that is a continus beam makes hip-fire easy.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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