DUST Search - The Laser Rifle

Spectral Clone wrote:

Mortedeamor wrote:

so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc

The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m.
it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before.

it still requires skill and understanding to use though

the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine.

allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon.
i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8

i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7

the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault

if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer
http://imgur.com/SirorZe

http://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4

these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point.

i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death.

I have gotten scores like that in a GALLENTE COMMANDO in pub matches.

It doesnt make it viable in PC Morte.

A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics

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Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1489	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:19:00 - [1] - Quote so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m. it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before. it still requires skill and understanding to use though the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine. allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon. i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8 i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7 the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer http://imgur.com/SirorZe http://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4 these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point. i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death. A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 312	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:24:00 - [2] - Quote I'm very respectful of laser rifle users at range and across open spaces. Otherwise I have a handful of "getcho@&&whupt" to deliver to anyone silly enough to still be holding it, or hanging around when I get there. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
WARxion ForDUST Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 12	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:30:00 - [3] - Quote Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle...
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2167	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:31:00 - [4] - Quote I've loved the LR since literally the day CCP released it. Shape without form, shade without colour, Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
TCP Logihoe Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:46:00 - [5] - Quote I fry mercs as there bullets land at my feet the only problem i get is when it over heats i cant hit them with it to apply that feedback damage to their face.
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:50:00 - [6] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... its delayed with your hp when your hp finalizes and fills all your skill bonus's apply for all suits..so yes..the laser rifle over heats at round 20 once skill applies...this actaully effects everything uplink times repper range all skills do not apply when u spawn..so when you see your hp at a reduced lvl just be aware it will over heat at 40.. also i find trueblood tanking your amar assault is the only way to go with lr A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:51:00 - [7] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I'm very respectful of laser rifle users at range and across open spaces. Otherwise I have a handful of "getcho@&&whupt" to deliver to anyone silly enough to still be holding it, or hanging around when I get there. which is why my lr assault suits all have 1 dmg mod dedicated to a side arm that i am max lvl in A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 312	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:53:00 - [8] - Quote More people need to take that approach then lol. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 278	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:53:00 - [9] - Quote It's currently so good that my commando runs it as the main weapon, with an AR or CR as a CQC backup. It let's you dictate engagements so effortlessly it really is absurd, once you learn that you need to bait enemies out of close cover and into the open to engage you, you have them. Not even their rail rifles can save them. It's not an easy weapon to use,nor even to fit, but by God is it good. I love it. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 246	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:53:00 - [10] - Quote Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!

Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:54:00 - [11] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Why do you have a standard weapon on an Advance suit? because thats how it was fit at the time for whatever reason..it may be a pre 1.8 shot tbh..im not sure it was on my phone.. actually yeah i just looked the 22/1 stnd laser rifle on adv amar assault was pre 1.8 ...the 32/1 was post A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Aleksander Black Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 251	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:20:00 - [12] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... its delayed with your hp when your hp finalizes and fills all your skill bonus's apply for all suits..so yes..the laser rifle over heats at round 20 once skill applies...this actaully effects everything uplink times repper range all skills do not apply when u spawn..so when you see your hp at a reduced lvl just be aware it will over heat at 40.. also i find trueblood tanking your amar assault is the only way to go with lr Define "trueblood tanking" an amarr assault suit please? All plates? You got me curious. I've been messing around with the LR for quite a while now but every time I'm considering going proto on it something more urgent comes up. At any rate, I gave it quite a run during the commando event and that thing is a monster. I love it. I melted whole squads from distance, laughing like a maniac as I scored triple kills with the same beam. With time you start to figure out the perfect spots in each map to position yourself, that weapon is so much fun and definitely not up. You just need a steady aim and some range.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2805	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:27:00 - [13] - Quote The ADS speed is a bit to fast for my liking but besides that its a great weapon. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:30:00 - [14] - Quote Aleksander Black wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: WARxion ForDUST wrote: Did CCP fix the Amarr Assault suit? Right after 1.8 it doesn't gave any bonus to the Laser and Scrambler rifle... its delayed with your hp when your hp finalizes and fills all your skill bonus's apply for all suits..so yes..the laser rifle over heats at round 20 once skill applies...this actaully effects everything uplink times repper range all skills do not apply when u spawn..so when you see your hp at a reduced lvl just be aware it will over heat at 40.. also i find trueblood tanking your amar assault is the only way to go with lr Define "trueblood tanking" an amarr assault suit please? All plates? You got me curious. I've been messing around with the LR for quite a while now but every time I'm considering going proto on it something more urgent comes up. At any rate, I gave it quite a run during the commando event and that thing is a monster. I love it. I melted whole squads from distance, laughing like a maniac as I scored triple kills with the same beam. With time you start to figure out the perfect spots in each map to position yourself, that weapon is so much fun and definitely not up. You just need a steady aim and some range. um not all plates but i run 3 dmg mods 2 for my lr 1 for my side arm i run the lr of = lvl to the suit..all my suits start with 1 comp repper and then plates...and i run the k17 heal resupplys or alloteks accordingly so my stnd aar assault has the stnd lr 2 dmg mods and 1 repper no plates my adv has 2 dmg mods comp repper 1 plate..my proto 3 dmg mods 1 comp repper 2 plates.. A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Aleksander Black Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 251	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:33:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2246	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:34:00 - [16] - Quote I've always thought it was a support weapon since it is not that good at close range. Yes, you can get kills, but unless you're good with sidearms, you're toast upclose.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2246	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:35:00 - [17] - Quote Aleksander Black wrote: Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2222	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:35:00 - [18] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m. it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before. it still requires skill and understanding to use though the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine. allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon. i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8 i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7 the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer http://imgur.com/SirorZe http://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4 these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point. i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death. I have gotten scores like that in a GALLENTE COMMANDO in pub matches. It doesnt make it viable in PC Morte.
Aleksander Black Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 251	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:37:00 - [19] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Aleksander Black wrote: Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:42:00 - [20] - Quote Aleksander Black wrote: Joel II X wrote: Aleksander Black wrote: Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro you can try running 1 complex repper with 1 complex reative and 1 enhanced thats what i do sometimes A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics

Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 15:43:00 - [21] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: so i have heard statements about the laser rifle being broken or useless "not an elite class weapon" dafuc The laser rifle is currently one the most unique weapons in dust..it deals absurd dmg instantaneously incinerating massive abouts of hp with death touch ability reaching out over 100m. it was buffed severly with 1.8 base dmg...buffed the dmg multiplier..the overheat function...its dmg and dmg output was scaled through the tiers unlike before. it still requires skill and understanding to use though the laser rifle is undoubtedly usable on any suit but on the amar assault or commando its really going to shine. allot of people greatly under estimate this weapon..ceo pyrex made a funny video where he claims its a support weapon. i also noted you were not on a suit that benefits the laser anyway. and tbh you seems to have a hard time staying on your targets..the zoom fidelity did throw me off for a few as well when i first tried it 1.8 i run my amar assault like a true blood amarrian..i have 3 dmg mods a load of armor and allot of stamina. i will be forming a squad of veteran laser rifle users..and we will be stomping across new eden. i set laser rifle aside for a bit post 1.8 to tune and tweak my amar logi for pc. i had to adjust it to 1.8. my laser rifle assault suit that i use now is the exact same suit i used in uprising 1.2-1.7 the laser rifle is not underpowered. here are just some casual screen shots of after battle reports i had laying around on my phone (sorry for terrible quality) one is a stnd lr ona adv amar assault one is a proto lr assault if lr is a support weapon and you cant get kills with it..then why does my assault pull top of the leader boards with it repeatedly generally as the highest killer http://imgur.com/SirorZe http://imgur.com/i1CbtJ4 these are really the only shots i have atm sadly, but i will making youtube videos and i will be spamming my lr assault for the next few weeks to prove this point. i challenge the tactical rifle users of the other races take me on, take my squad on call us underpowered while you stare down my beam of death. I have gotten scores like that in a GALLENTE COMMANDO in pub matches. It doesnt make it viable in PC Morte. i consider pc to be a broken game mode not one to judge somethings viability on i go to fw and stomp and i 1v1 proto all the time my lr vs they're weapons...thats judge enough for me A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1409	Posted - 2014.04.13 17:48:00 - [22] - Quote I still think they could use a 10-20m buff to effective (not optimal) range. While they were buffed in some ways with 1.8, they also got a couple of nerfs. The nerf to proficiency REALY hurts this gun. It also overheats faster with Amarr Assault 5 + the Visiam than pre-1.8. You have narrow windows of opportunity to kill with the LR of only 2-3 seconds. The rest of the time you're reloading, overheating, positioning, preheating, in cover recovering shields/armor from sniper fire, or respawning from being ganked by a cloaks scout. You have to make those few seconds really count. The nerf to overheat time shortens that effective window by a significant percentage. A smart opponent will dodge in-and-out of cover so you waste your preheat and have to reload, but if they're dumb enough to stand still, it will wreck them with headshots. It's the most unique and fun weapon in any FPS game I've ever played. I still think it could use a bit more polish. An increase of 10-20m effective range, adjustments to Aim Assist in line with the range increase, a bit of tweaking on the ADS sensitivity, possibly a slight decrease to heat buildup through the tiers, just to widen the kill window a bit more, and it would be pretty close to perfect IMO. CCP could even reduce the up-close damage to 1.7 levels to counter-balance these changes and I'd be fine with that. Best PvE idea ever!
Bulletmonkey50 Savage Bullet 30	Posted - 2014.04.13 18:08:00 - [23] - Quote Lasering since it came out, message me, never been in a full laser squad I think they need to lower the ads sensitivity, you twitch and your off your target who's 100m away. Its hard to use the extra 10 meters of range when its very twitchy
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2942	Posted - 2014.04.13 18:14:00 - [24] - Quote I went 28/4 recently with it...you just need to know how to use it, and have the enemies to kill with it. Do you usually get the kill at the end of the heat build-up? Like around 80ish for the amarr assault? Because compared to the amarr commando, the amarr assault seems to work 10x better because of the extended heat buildup due to the assault bonus. Let me know if you would like another proto amarr assault. I can stop by pie ground control, or another chat channel if you'd like. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
juqa DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2014.04.13 18:38:00 - [25] - Quote If you ever need another proto laser user, hit me up. I've invested the most sp in the laser than any other weapon
Mortedeamor Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1491	Posted - 2014.04.13 19:21:00 - [26] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I went 28/4 recently with it...you just need to know how to use it, and have the enemies to kill with it. Do you usually get the kill at the end of the heat build-up? Like around 80ish for the amarr assault? Because compared to the amarr commando, the amarr assault seems to work 10x better because of the extended heat buildup due to the assault bonus. Let me know if you would like another proto amarr assault. I can stop by pie ground control, or another chat channel if you'd like. yeah i am always in pie and i would simply love to stomp with other laser rifle users. i do sometimes get kills in those last 20 kills but when i do they are generally death touchs.. i think my longest kill feed from 1 beam...that being viziam ona proto amar assault with 2 cmp dmg mods..towards the viz and prof v...between rounds fired number 1 and 80 at max i have squeezed 9 kills in a majority of the nine as many as 5 were in between rounds...50-80 those last 30 rounds are ******* deadly..and if you catch a ground of people ina tight space its just so funny. i think with people more spread out my average is around 5 with 2 kills being in the first 40 rounds and 3 in last 40.. its all situational of course..but like u said shayz the lr is not bad it just requires knowledge of how to use it and some skill with aiming..i feel like the lr requires more precise aiming than allot of the guns in dust now really some suits dont need to preheat at all if your a scout and your at 70m im not gunna try and preheat my lr if your caldari of any kind cept the sentinel im not going to preheat my lr...i can generally kill a cal or minnnie suit easily with the first 10-15 rounds from the lr also after drake from irc told me about the lr's cqc ive been trying death touching with commando in cqc...i have death touched people at 6 m since 1.8 its crazy A laser rifle master for life not just for when it becomes popular Long Live the Empress Burn the Heretics
Principus Shmoof Triariian Sardianii-Triarii Planetary Services Armed-n-Hammered 105	Posted - 2014.04.13 19:28:00 - [27] - Quote If it ain't broke, don't mess with it.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3910	Posted - 2014.04.13 19:37:00 - [28] - Quote In 1.7 the laser had an optimum range. It's usfulness/range curve was easy to follow. But now the damage & range is all out of whack. The distance at which you do the most damage is the same distance at which it's too twitchy to aim reliably. The distance at which it's easy to aim is the same distance at which the zoom is too strong. And finally, the distance at which you can find a balance between these is the same distance at which it is still outgunned by Combat & Rail rifles. I don't think it was realistically buffed with 1.8. I did better with it in 1.7. I just think its effectiveness has been unevenly spread over a wider area. No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3910	Posted - 2014.04.13 19:40:00 - [29] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Aleksander Black wrote: Yeah, that's about how I fit them too, though I'm considering changing some of the plates on the proto, two complex plates make it way too slow, I'm thinking about one enhanced and one complex ferroscale or something. Or 2x complex reppers... Anyway. thanks. Complex Reactives bro There is no Reactive plate setup that cannot be beat by a combination of reps and plates. Anybody who fits more than one reactive on any suit simply hasn't done enough maths. No.
Sourdough Muffins Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2014.04.13 20:02:00 - [30] - Quote Love my laz0r on my Amarr Commando. I pair it up with the ScR for ultimate Amarrian awesomeness.



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