People don't realize that a scout's worst nightmare is a squad that sticks together and cannot be broken up. Scouts tend to go after the stragglers in the pack...the ones that can't quite keep up. The moment we see six guys that are inseparable, well we are hard pressed to do anything about them.

Yeah RE's my take out a couple of them, or surprise may net you a few of them as well, but more often than not, they will mob you and take you out before you can GTFO.

I think it's worth reminding people that just because they didn't see us coming didn't mean we were cloaked -
We've kinda been doing the shooting you in the back while distracted/hacking thing before cloaks. It's sorta what we're about when it comes to actual killing.

Scouts and cloaks aren't OP, SP is. Shield extenders go from 22/33/66, why no 22/44/66, it costs as much to go from 1 to 4 shield extenders as 4 to 5.

A level 1 scout cannot afford to even equip a cloak due to the ONLY 15% cost off the cpu/pg. Add in a level 1 dampening, precision, and range and you are an easy kill to a cal scout (which are everywhere). Unless you have about 14 mil in core skills and ONE suit you aren't going to live love enough to be a threat to anyone as a scout. Say you want to speed tank instead, level 5 botics + level 5 kin kats are around 3 mil SP.

The reason you are getting killed is because; people who have been playing this game for 8+ months with the tactics and SP to go proto and stomp just like any medium armor squad could do. In fact, most proto stomp groups aren't even affected by cloaked scouts, because they run in a group of 4 guys with a Gal Logi with a scanner and light em up like fireworks. <---- I don't engage when I see this.

Stop blaming the cloak; you are the one presenting a target of opportunity. I guarantee if you ran as a lone target with a cloaked friend you could draw out half the scouts in the game.

So, except for all the times you're killing them, you're not killing them. Got it.

your post in a way says exactly what mine dose

cloaks are op 4 these reasons esp on scouts

1 able to shoot from cloak

2 able to recloak if is was not exhausted before uncloaking have seen it meany times where scout keeps disappearing and then shooting some 1 only to recloak in under 30 sec ( cool down before able to recloak not working)

both of these seem to be a glich( unintended effect) and are the biggest problem there should be a short delay of a sec or 2 before a player can shoot from being cloaked

3 combined near invisibility with added profile damping
scouts all ready were near invisible on scans and with passive suit scans

4 the cpu is very high to use on any thing but a skilled scout
over 100 cpu at lowest level try fitting it on any suit at a base or adv level with out having max skills that add cpu and pg then what can u put on the suit with it ? all most nothing

5 yes u can see a cloaked guy moving ( sprinting) but if he is walking or just standing in 1 spot they are close to invisible or a shadow or the sun is low in the sky it gives too much to 1 guy

combine all these things with a shot gun that at the lowest level will kill a proto heavy in 3 to 4 shots yes it makes a scout shot gun cloak very op

what a lot of players seem to forget is that not every one in the game has 20 mill sp invested in there guy or has 2 to 3 mill (extra) sp to just skill in to the next new thing
with out new players in the game that stay with the game how long will dust last?

I read it that scouts (especially any without a rifle) are at a loss in general in the usual stand and deliver firefights, but at a general advantage against a single or otherwise pre-occupied enemy (which every frame is btw - scouts just specialise in capitalising on those situations). QQing because we are better at specific tactics than others is kinda QQing about role differences in general...

Broken roles, yes. Cloaking is a cheater bar answer in search of some great unfairness question that doesn't exist. Many people have already stated that their general scouty awesomeness was already carrying them without cloaks. Then no one should mind at all if cloaks are removed.

Broken roles, yes. Cloaking is a cheater bar answer in search of some great unfairness question that doesn't exist. Many people have already stated that their general scouty awesomeness was already carrying them without cloaks. Then no one should mind at all if cloaks are removed.

Fix the shooting while invisible thing. Buff assaults a very tiny bit. Problem and QQ fixed.

Scouts tend to go after the stragglers in the pack...the ones that can't quite keep up.

Scouts and cloaks aren't OP, SP is. Shield extenders go from 22/33/66, why no 22/44/66, it costs as much to go from 1 to 4 shield extenders as 4 to 5.

A level 1 scout cannot afford to even equip a cloak due to the ONLY 15% cost off the cpu/pg. Add in a level 1 dampening, precision, and range and you are an easy kill to a cal scout (which are everywhere). Unless you have about 14 mil in core skills and ONE suit you aren't going to live love enough to be a threat to anyone as a scout. Say you want to speed tank instead, level 5 botics + level 5 kin kats are around 3 mil SP.

The reason you are getting killed is because; people who have been playing this game for 8+ months with the tactics and SP to go proto and stomp just like any medium armor squad could do. In fact, most proto stomp groups aren't even affected by cloaked scouts, because they run in a group of 4 guys with a Gal Logi with a scanner and light em up like fireworks. <---- I don't engage when I see this.

Stop blaming the cloak; you are the one presenting a target of opportunity. I guarantee if you ran as a lone target with a cloaked friend you could draw out half the scouts in the game.

Some days ago I played a match without using cloak, I killed some players from their back with my shotgun, received an hatemail about me being a fotm cause I used the "OP cloak".... I wasnt using it XD

See? Unneeded cloak. Remove it.

Broken roles, yes. Cloaking is a cheater bar answer in search of some great unfairness question that doesn't exist. Many people have already stated that their general scouty awesomeness was already carrying them without cloaks. Then no one should mind at all if cloaks are removed.

People don't realize that a scout's worst nightmare is a squad that sticks together and cannot be broken up. Scouts tend to go after the stragglers in the pack...the ones that can't quite keep up. The moment we see six guys that are inseparable, well we are hard pressed to do anything about them.

Yeah RE's my take out a couple of them, or surprise may net you a few of them as well, but more often than not, they will mob you and take you out before you can GTFO.

Define shooting while invisible, my cloak wears off as soon as I switch to anything other than my cloak.

actully i run with a gall scout with 7mill sp. he hasnt failed to positive in the past few days. 14mill sp pfft..

You can say that about anything
"I could already use item x so it dosent need a buff"
Its said about anything that ever gets a buff in any video game ever.
If the cloak is changed the only thing that should be changed is a short delay after switch from cloak to a weapon before you can shoot (.5s to 1s)

News flash it doesn't. There has been a half million posts about this. I shouldn't need to define it for you but if you switch weapons s and start firing you can get a few rounds off while still invisible. I've heard upwards of 2 shotty blasts.

I shouldn't need to define it for you

Actually if you were referring to the glitch were you could start hacking something and switch to a weapon and run around cloaked with it out
1. It only lasted as long as the cloak was active til it ran out of energy
2. It was hotfixed several days ago

If you are referring to my ability to switch away from cloak and insta shoot, then I will refer you to another post I just made.

I have MANY MANY MANY times, accidently hit the trigger button instead of the weapon switch button and completed the full animation of turning off my cloak, THEN, I realize what I did (because if you do it that way, you will be locked into the animation (try it) until it completes. THEN, I switch to my weapon; fully decloaked and KILL MY TARGET. Because I have positioned myself to where they do not see me.

I'll tell you what, you can change the cloak to operate that way full time if you take away the feature that your reticule turns red when you hover over me and I am standing perfectly still watching my cloak timer count down and hoping you will turn away just as you mow me down without being able to react.

In either regard, it's nice to see Colon Blow with their typical sh!tty responses to people, have a good day sir.

People don't realize that a scout's worst nightmare is a squad that sticks together and cannot be broken up. Scouts tend to go after the stragglers in the pack...the ones that can't quite keep up. The moment we see six guys that are inseparable, well we are hard pressed to do anything about them.

Yeah RE's my take out a couple of them, or surprise may net you a few of them as well, but more often than not, they will mob you and take you out before you can GTFO.

Why not 3 seconds? Why not 10?

I think the biggest issue with 1.8 is that passive scanning is only a viable option for scouts.

Accually it works well on logis now with the buff they got

Why not make shield extenders give you 200 hp?
Why not make armor plates speed you up?
Because that would damage the whole point of the what its supposed to do.
It should let you sneak up on people and shoot them in the back, a short delay would simply stop you from decloaking in front of someone. To long of a delay and it has no use.

I was referring to passive scanning. Not using scanners.

Three seconds isn't that long. Reloads take about that long.

I was talking about passive scans
Logis got a passive scan buff

The only thing that has changed from 1.7 to 1.8 is that I used to feel that I was going to get shot in the back while hacking and was surprised when I did. Now I KNOW I am going to get shot in the back while hacking and am surprised when I am NOT.

Tip: let the blueberry hack and watch from 4 feet away with a cloak, then take out the shimmer as they move towards your friend.

Reference source, please.

And personally idgaf about cloaks, scouts or cloaked scouts. You kill me it's my fault for not killing you first. Or having someone else kill you first (b/c I mostly logi).