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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:38:00 -
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I need to see it please, proto prefered. Also which one is better, assault or the regular one and why.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:02:00 -
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Bump, searched before
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darkiller240
K-A-O-S theory
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:17:00 -
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Simple answer Its good at elevation
Assault im not sure but i think its mediocre
sorry thats all the info i can give to you
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Jenza's Pants
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:18:00 -
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Freedom if you are putting rounds right on somebody, Boundless if you want to spam an area that you cant get to. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:18:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:Simple answer Its good at elevation
Assault im not sure but i think its mediocre
sorry thats all the info i can give to you Thanks I guess And oh I found jenzas pants
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:19:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:Freedom if you are putting rounds right on somebody, Boundless if you want to spam an area that you cant get to. So for 1v1 or 1v2 the basic is better?
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Jenza's Pants
The Hetairoi
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:21:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jenza's Pants wrote:Freedom if you are putting rounds right on somebody, Boundless if you want to spam an area that you cant get to. So for 1v1 or 1v2 the basic is better?
I use it mostly with a in commando now, with the CR of course. SO I'm spraying them with CR til they think they are safe behind a corner and boundless spam comes in, with less damage over a wider area. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:21:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:Simple answer Its good at elevation
Assault im not sure but i think its mediocre
sorry thats all the info i can give to you You call two lines infomation?
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Waiyu Ren
Seeker of The Path
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:23:00 -
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I don't have footage, but I do use one extensively when derping around hot zones. It's slightly better than before but with damage mod nerfs, it feels balanced rather than broken. I prefer standard to breach as i've got the timing of each shot down to muscle memory now and the breach throws me off. I haven't tried assault.
Maybe hit up Pyrex to make a video if he hasn't already? https://www.youtube.com/user/CEOPyrex
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:24:00 -
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Waiyu Ren wrote:I don't have footage, but I do use one extensively when derping around hot zones. It's slightly better than before but with damage mod nerfs, it feels balanced rather than broken. I prefer standard to breach as i've got the timing of each shot down to muscle memory now and the breach throws me off. I haven't tried assault. Maybe hit up Pyrex to make a video if he hasn't already? https://www.youtube.com/user/CEOPyrex Well, when we get our event sp im getting mass driver from 1 to 5 prof 3
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EverNub
Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:29:00 -
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Been running Mass Driver Since Early Chrome. Its changed alot but the new Dmg and Hit detection feels better then it was in 1.7
I recommend the standard version (Exo-5 or Freedom) Unless you want to hold down a location and your just spamming shots or still not used to the angles you want to go with the assault for bigger AoE. Elevation is huge also gotta stay on top of people like buildings or hills to really get the best hit detection.
What is the use of fighting if you haven't got a tolerable planet to fight over?
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:30:00 -
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Been using the mass driver since closed beta (fell in love with it when i oneshotted a scout through a window <3). The mass driver is working very well, it is most effective in closed maps.
The assault MD is more area denial, use it to encourage the enemy team to split, if they don't you will get a bunch of +50 very fast
The standard MD is awesome, oneshotting scouts with direct hits is soooooo fun
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:31:00 -
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EverNub wrote:Been running Mass Driver Since Early Chrome. Its changed alot but the new Dmg and Hit detection feels better then it was in 1.7
I recommend the standard version (Exo-5 or Freedom) Unless you want to hold down a location and your just spamming shots or still not used to the angles you want to go with the assault for bigger AoE. Elevation is huge also gotta stay on top of people like buildings or hills to really get the best hit detection. Well thanks, want a vid though, but is having level 5 mass driver noticible from lvl 1? Also, of course you did nub
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:32:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:Been using the mass driver since closed beta (fell in love with it when i oneshotted a scout through a window <3). The mass driver is working very well, it is most effective in closed maps. The assault MD is more area denial, use it to encourage the enemy team to split, if they don't you will get a bunch of +50 very fast The standard MD is awesome, oneshotting scouts with direct hits is soooooo fun Always carry nanohives with you and flux grenades. But does the assault have better dos and does it have hiher reserve ammo or clip size?
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:36:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:Been using the mass driver since closed beta (fell in love with it when i oneshotted a scout through a window <3). The mass driver is working very well, it is most effective in closed maps. The assault MD is more area denial, use it to encourage the enemy team to split, if they don't you will get a bunch of +50 very fast The standard MD is awesome, oneshotting scouts with direct hits is soooooo fun Always carry nanohives with you and flux grenades. But does the assault have better dos and does it have hiher reserve ammo or clip size?
The assault have a larger area, 2 more rounds in each clip and fire faster BUT it does much less damage than the standard version. You can kill people faster with the standard version (if you are good at landing shots), the assault is better at supporting the team.
EDIT: ionly have proficiency 1 and run with 2 4% damage mods on my advanced suit and with no damage mods on my standard suit (gallente logi). |
IR Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:03:00 -
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I don't have footage either sadly but the mass driver is my go to weapon of choice. Maxing out prof and reload speed and it's a room clearer with some backup.
Totally agree with Martin0. Don't dump a lot of points in it until you are sure you'll stick with it. Everyone goes "oh it's a noob tube" at first until they start seeing it's shortcomings.
Elevation is your friend when you have it and an unforgiving #!$#: when you don't. Also by very conscious of your remaining ammo and reload whenever you have a chance. That barrel spin is awesome as hell...unless you find yourself in the middle of a firefight. If you are crossing a road and I'm shooting at you always remember jumping never helps. It just gives a nice bullseye to line up for when you land. |
Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:06:00 -
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You have Mass Driver footage. Just use it in-game.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:06:00 -
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IR Scifi wrote:I don't have footage either sadly but the mass driver is my go to weapon of choice. Maxing out prof and reload speed and it's a room clearer with some backup.
Totally agree with Martin0. Don't dump a lot of points in it until you are sure you'll stick with it. Everyone goes "oh it's a noob tube" at first until they start seeing it's shortcomings.
Elevation is your friend when you have it and an unforgiving #!$#: when you don't. Also by very conscious of your remaining ammo and reload whenever you have a chance. That barrel spin is awesome as hell...unless you find yourself in the middle of a firefight. If you are crossing a road and I'm shooting at you always remember jumping never helps. It just gives a nice bullseye to line up for when you land. Im using it for fun and going to use a scout ck.0 on it when it get it protod
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Boot Booter
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
427
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:11:00 -
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Use the regular version. It's a very specialized weapon.. Can suck in a lot of situations. Oh and it's worthless against heavies.
If they ever make assaults useful again I expect a whole lot of MD QQ following. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
528
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:15:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Use the regular version. It's a very specialized weapon.. Can suck in a lot of situations. Oh and it's worthless against heavies.
If they ever make assaults useful again I expect a whole lot of MD QQ following. its not "worthless" but you HAVE TO land direct hits. At 300+ damage for each round even heavies die fast. |
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
445
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:19:00 -
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The MD really only begins to shine with proficiency and damage mods. That said, on a min commando they become down right scary. The breach is extremely underused and a great AV weapon. With my MD proficiency 5 proto min commando I do about 570 dmg to shields and 660 to armor. You just have to be extremely accurate against infantry if you're going pure AV and a random red comes to hunt you down. Very rewarding to one shot that red with the breach.
The standard MD is a better all around weapon than the assault imho. You get less rounds in the clip and ammo reserve, but it has a much better direct hit and splash combo. It also seems that the dirt and smoke effect is back to help disorient foes foolish enough to run directly into the line of fire.
Join the in game channel Massholes. Sure, you can shoot at peoples feet, but you won't out DPS anything 1v1 that way. We are more than happy to teach the ins and outs of this fun but quirky weapon!
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
528
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:21:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:The MD really only begins to shine with proficiency and damage mods. That said, on a min commando they become down right scary. The breach is extremely underused and a great AV weapon. With my MD proficiency 5 proto min commando I do about 570 dmg to shields and 660 to armor. You just have to be extremely accurate against infantry if you're going pure AV and a random red comes to hunt you down. Very rewarding to one shot that red with the breach.
The standard MD is a better all around weapon than the assault imho. You get less rounds in the clip and ammo reserve, but it has a much better direct hit and splash combo. It also seems that the dirt and smoke effect is back to help disorient foes foolish enough to run directly into the line of fire.
Join the in game channel Massholes. Sure, you can shoot at peoples feet, but you won't out DPS anything 1v1 that way. We are more than happy to teach the ins and outs of this fun but quirky weapon! Never used the breach MD, how does it fare versus tanks? |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:28:00 -
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I have some, but it's not a ton of footage...I might record some later and give you a more in-depth review of it.
Basically you use the mass driver in one of two ways in 1.8:
1. As a finisher for the commando. When you're using a commando, there's no better weapon to use than a mass driver to help get that guy who just ran around the corner away from you with low health, or who is about to go down but you're running out of ammo and you can't afford a reload.
2. As a CQC point defense weapon, equipment destruction tool, or for shooting fish in a barrel. If you can't run it on a commando, then the only other option is a suit with a sidearm. The best way I've found is to let the enemy come to you (i.e. defend your point), and as they're running towards you, shoot down the hallway or down the stairs to basically scare them into not getting close. It's also really good for being used as a camping weapon (players spawn in, you spam the weapon on their spawn points, which are usually hidden behind objects or in corners), and kills most equipment in one hit.
Just some words of advice...
-Don't try and kill heavies with it (unless you're REALLY good at getting direct hits...sentinels have passive reduction to splash damage) -Don't go after shield suits unless you have flux grenades or a decent range from the enemy -Nanohives are your friends...especially the X-3 (gives 5 rounds per nanite cluster) -You want to use it not too close, but not too far from yourself --I try to shoot behind the enemy instead of at his feet so that the splash will always hit him and not me -If you have to reload in combat with it, don't. Either run away and get to a safe position first, or switch to your other weapon. -Use a lighter frame with more speed or stamina. This allows you to jump around more while you're attacking your opponent (since you don't need to aim the thing anyways) -Don't attack or get the attention of anyone you know won't be able to go down easily.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
445
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:28:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: Never used the breach MD, how does it fare versus tanks?
The breach is made for AV. It fairs pretty well against all but the tripple repped maddys. I use it in conjunction with swarms and it does pretty well considering the state of AV these days. Against infantry you need to be very accurate with direct hits if you want to survive. This comes up quite often when infantry comes to finish you off cause the pansy tanker is upset you keep chipping away at them.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:29:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:The MD really only begins to shine with proficiency and damage mods. That said, on a min commando they become down right scary. The breach is extremely underused and a great AV weapon. With my MD proficiency 5 proto min commando I do about 570 dmg to shields and 660 to armor. You just have to be extremely accurate against infantry if you're going pure AV and a random red comes to hunt you down. Very rewarding to one shot that red with the breach.
The standard MD is a better all around weapon than the assault imho. You get less rounds in the clip and ammo reserve, but it has a much better direct hit and splash combo. It also seems that the dirt and smoke effect is back to help disorient foes foolish enough to run directly into the line of fire.
Join the in game channel Massholes. Sure, you can shoot at peoples feet, but you won't out DPS anything 1v1 that way. We are more than happy to teach the ins and outs of this fun but quirky weapon! Strafing and jumping can out dps it? But I'll join, never used noobtubes in games exept mw2, to see how broken it was
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
446
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:49:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Strafing and jumping can out dps it? But I'll join, never used noobtubes in games exept mw2, to see how broken it was
Oh god yes. You don't even need to hop around. Point at any MD user and you will kill them before they get their third shot off. Most definitely not a noob tube. Takes considerable skill to be really effective with it. Anyone can lay down blanket spam to AoD an area. Winning 1v1 is what takes practice.
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EverNub
Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:49:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:EverNub wrote:Been running Mass Driver Since Early Chrome. Its changed alot but the new Dmg and Hit detection feels better then it was in 1.7
I recommend the standard version (Exo-5 or Freedom) Unless you want to hold down a location and your just spamming shots or still not used to the angles you want to go with the assault for bigger AoE. Elevation is huge also gotta stay on top of people like buildings or hills to really get the best hit detection. Well thanks, want a vid though, but is having level 5 mass driver noticible from lvl 1? Also, of course you did nub
I don't record myself sorry lol, and yes its definetly much better especially once u get proficiency points in it just like any other weapon! I got Prof 5 and its a huge difference vs armor dmg.
What is the use of fighting if you haven't got a tolerable planet to fight over?
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
937
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:53:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Strafing and jumping can out dps it? But I'll join, never used noobtubes in games exept mw2, to see how broken it was
Oh god yes. You don't even need to hop around. Point at any MD user and you will kill them before they get their third shot off. Most definitely not a noob tube. Takes considerable skill to be really effective with it. Anyone can lay down blanket spam to AoD an area. Winning 1v1 is what takes practice. I meant if I jump and strafe with a md...
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EverNub
Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:58:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Strafing and jumping can out dps it? But I'll join, never used noobtubes in games exept mw2, to see how broken it was
Oh god yes. You don't even need to hop around. Point at any MD user and you will kill them before they get their third shot off. Most definitely not a noob tube. Takes considerable skill to be really effective with it. Anyone can lay down blanket spam to AoD an area. Winning 1v1 is what takes practice.
True Story, thats why i love my Min Commando, If im on level ground i pull out my Combat Rifle and lay waste. U really hafta use the Mass Driver as a high Vantage point, surprise attack weapon and mostly used for point control.
What is the use of fighting if you haven't got a tolerable planet to fight over?
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
446
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:11:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Strafing and jumping can out dps it? But I'll join, never used noobtubes in games exept mw2, to see how broken it was
Oh god yes. You don't even need to hop around. Point at any MD user and you will kill them before they get their third shot off. Most definitely not a noob tube. Takes considerable skill to be really effective with it. Anyone can lay down blanket spam to AoD an area. Winning 1v1 is what takes practice. I meant if I jump and strafe with a md... You'll lose 1v1 90% of the time due to being out DPS'd. Unless you flux them first. This is why the flux is the MD's bff.
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