We barely have connections with EVE lololololol. What mofoing life support does that game give us?

Of the hundreds of whiny posts like this one, yours ranks at about 2/10. I give it 2 because you actually know what a paragraph is.

What exactly did you expect to achieve with this thread? There are dozens like it, and the vast majority of them can't even agree on what the problems are.

Then you made a load of incorrect assumptions. 'i want new things' - Guess what, Wolfman and Remnant won't be doing you new maps or snazzy new gamemodes. It's not their job, and it's not their skillset. The people who do that are working on that part of the game.

We barely have connections with EVE lololololol. What mofoing life support does that game give us?

this post shove more words in my mouth than I can bear.

Q)"What exactly did you expect to achieve with this thread?"
A) change.

S)"There are dozens like it, and the vast majority of them can't even agree on what the problems are."
A)Oxymoronic, but okay. thread here,.

S)Then you made a load of incorrect assumptions.
Q) where? i'm happy to fix things that aren't correct.

S)'i want new things' - Guess what, Wolfman and Remnant won't be doing you new maps or snazzy new gamemodes.
A) okay...... I'm not sure i follow. The CPM's job is to bring the ideas to the devs.


S)The people who do that are working on that part of the game.
A) hopefully the CPM could reach them :)

Presumably monetary.

Of course, the OP has no evidence to back up his claim.

As far as CCP's financial records are concerned, Dust is actually making a profit.

Source:
http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf

Either you didn't genuinely expect change or you are a fool. Adding another whine thread to the legions is not how you accomplish change.


The template you used? There is very little differentiating your thread from a number of other idiotic threads bar some variations in what you perceive as the problem.


For example, you claimed that Dust was on life support from EVE and that EVE subscriptions pay for it. Care to back this up? The financial model for Dust is quite sound. Smaller F2P games have survived on smaller playerbases with worse financial models.


For the first quote, you said that you don't want rebalancing, you want new things. I pointed out that Wolfman/Remnant don't bring you new maps/gamemodes because that's not what they do. They are responsible for balancing and weapon design. Not bringing you new shinies, unless you mean new weapons and suits in which case they are doing that. You've just had half a dozen new suits and a bunch of new weapons.

For the second, the CPM do what they can. Contrary to popular belief, I'm certain that they are trying hard to do what they are able to. That does not mean that they can make new content magically appear. It simply doesn't work like that.

When you demand new content 'instead of' rebalancing, you show that you do not understand how this system works.

Source:
http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf

Presumably monetary.

Of course, the OP has no evidence to back up his claim.

according to page six, they are in the red by 21,347,476 ISK for 2013.

well, I pose you:
Q) how would you go about trying to induce change?
Q) what template would you use for this?


yes, the CPM works hard at what they do. I'm not sure they are focusing on the problem at hand here.

according to page six, they are in the red by 21,347,476 USD for 2013.

EDIT: yes, they did make a profit in 2012!!! I'm happy!

EDIT: changed to USD*

Talk to your CPM representatives for starters. Since they will be going to Fanfest this year, now is the time to post your suggestions to them in the Council Chamber of the forums. They will be talking to devs directly while they are there. They'll probably be able to talk or find someone to relay your information to the appropriate team if able to.

Another thing to do is go Fanfest yourself this year and talk to them in person (be nice to them though).

There is also the fact that after Fanfest 2014 we will be having a first official elections for the CPM1 and there you will have a chance to vote someone in or run yourself for CPM1 and hope to encourage change that way.

Another thing to look out for is when a new update has been deployed, CCP Logibro posts a thread looking for feedback. If you can get your post in there in the first 2-3 pages, your chances of getting noticed will increase. So stay on the ball with that.

We should be able to get content and rebalancing side by side, we are in 2014 and look what state the game is in. Its getting better but far from good enough.

This game should never been relased without PVE , even one of my boys asked me the other day, way should I play there is no story , grinding all the way.

I think CCP might pull it of much depend on fanfest, but what strucks me is when some come with good critics , there is always some that think they are all better then others and have all the right answers. You must be special.

That is the result of research and development. R&D will always put you in the red no matter what kind of company you are.

well, I pose you:
Q) how would you go about trying to induce change?
Q) what template would you use for this?


yes, the CPM works hard at what they do. I'm not sure they are focusing on the problem at hand here.

CCP is known for their PVP.

CCP is Known for their player market.

CCP Does mediocre PVE at best.... ????


Seriously with Solid PVE MMO games liek Borderlands, Resistance and Destiny coming out soon what could of DUST done with PVE in say 6 months?

1 year?

What Could of DUST done with 2 years of Developing PVE?

I Fear they are gonna push this PVE Bullshit because of Un informed stupid shallow thoughts like this. And you know what will happen? We will get a massively Under delivered on Piece of crap that will be ANOTHER giant waste of time.

Nothing CCP can do in PVE with DUST 514 in a years time will be WORTH IT.

If CCP Can't Make DUST work with the PVP aspect then DUST 514 is doomed anyway.

Make me sick.

noted.

But in the red is still in the red.

I wonder what R&D they were doing?
I hope it's good stuff.

Make me sick.

Planetary conquest is almost stupid, with one alliance controlling 95% of the districts ( put a cap on that, seriously. NOW)

CCP is known for their PVP.

CCP is Known for their player market.

CCP Does mediocre PVE at best.... ????


Seriously with Solid PVE MMO games liek Borderlands, Resistance and Destiny coming out soon what could of DUST done with PVE in say 6 months?

1 year?

What Could of DUST done with 2 years of Developing PVE?

I Fear they are gonna push this PVE Bullshit because of Un informed stupid shallow thoughts like this. And you know what will happen? We will get a massively Under delivered on Piece of crap that will be ANOTHER giant waste of time.

Nothing CCP can do in PVE with DUST 514 in a years time will be WORTH IT.

If CCP Can't Make DUST work with the PVP aspect then DUST 514 is doomed anyway.

Make me sick.

As far as CCP's financial records are concerned, Dust is actually making a profit.

Source:
http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf

More EVE link, 'nuff said

CCP. we need to talk.
CPM. we need to talk.

Dust514 as it stands is a very weak game.
There is almost a point where DUST becomes repetitive. public matches serve no real porpouse, and even FW battles have a very minute effect in EvE. You killed it in the update that was supposed to support it. I mean seriously, what the actual ****? Why hasn't anyone fixed this? Planetary conquest is almost stupid, with one alliance controlling 95% of the districts ( put a cap on that, seriously. NOW). we are completely isolated in the merc quarters, and subjected to no tactical interaction on the battlefield. However, there is one tactic: shoot or die. That's it. not to mention scotty is in a permanent vegatative state, matching up people with lightning fast idiocracy. there are two (mediocre) tanks in the game: the gun'em down logi and the angryrugar.

So, what can we do to solve this?
First off, CCP. you need to stop with the balancing ****. nobody wants things to be moved. you've seen all the hate for what you've done to weapons on the boards. It's time for a wakeup call. Make the weapon stats yellow files. Players will adapt automatically, if you don't keep adjusting.
Next is Factional warfare. As of now, I'm probobly beating a dead horse. This update is final, isn't it? well I sure as hell hope not. Factional warfare as of now provides 1/2 the payout of pubmatches, when you have full standings. That is rediculous, and hideous. we need more LP. We also need a stronger connection to EvE. I mean what you have right now for FW is a pile of dog crap on an MCC. How do eve players find dust bunnies? A) they don't
PC. how ugly this one is. you let one alliance bastardize the whole thing, CCP. you let one organization ruin the whole game for any other player out there. PC also has little/no effect in eve. I mean common, why isn't there any interaction yet?


So, CCP, what do you need to do from here?
The first order of business is to scrub the game of bugs. Are you adjusting the game again? do you want bugs? that's how you get bugs! nobody needs a mis-firing forge gun, or an airzooka.
once you have polished every major bug from the code, get to work on content. we (players) want new things, not this **** you call rebalancing.


CCP. you're killing a good game. why are you doing this?

Can you tell me where you guys are getting how much Dust made in this auditor report?

All I see is Eve and Dust sales costs. Other than that it's all conglomerated amounts. Which it doesn't even specify dev salaries based upon what project that number is also conglomerated. What page is it on that it lists Dust individually on it's costs and revenue? Everywhere I've looked in the report it shows CCP as a whole on revenue from its games. I didn't even see where it listed Sony's licensing fees for ps3 development. I looked at page 12 where it was mentioned but that's just tax references.

It's spread across multiple pages and you'll have to go back an forth between some pages and the notes to get a better picture of what's going on. I'm not a professional accountant (though I do have basic accounting knowledge) but the picture does look promising for Dust at first glance.

The biggest thing that's sticking out like a sore thumb is the R&D cost. But for all we know that could have been a short-term term cost. If Dust is making a profit, it's likely to be making it to pay off the cost of its portion of the R&D. Which brings me to my next point. How much of the R&D was for Dust, how much for Eve, how much for Valkyrie, and how much for WoD?

porpouse

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As far as CCP's financial records are concerned, Dust is actually making a profit.

Source:
http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf

@TYCHUS

I found the link to the thread I posted earlier about this. Perhaps I misunderstood the statement. But still, even if I'm wrong and that there is no way to tell if Dust is making a profit, there is also no way to tell if Dust is costing too much in development. Keep in mind that this report was compiled by a independent third party auditing firm with no ties to CCP. It's safe to assume that maybe those bean counters weren't too privy on making a report that is gamer friendly to say the least.

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