I would be fine with this honestly, but then they need to get rid of the shimmer.

Right now, cloaks are meant to be used as camping devices, due to the huger movement shimmer.

If you make them deactivate on proximity, you ruin it in all honesty (in their current form). I can't run because the shimmer gives me away, and I can't stay still and hope you don't see me.

However, if you let me run away with a good cloak, and force it to decloak on proximity, you can turn the cloak into a escape or flanking tool. Useless up close, but fantastic at hiding your movements at range.

I want this. I've only ever wanted the cloak to be like this, but the stupid shimmer mechanic ruined it.

I kind of agree with the cloak being OP.

Nearly every match I'm in that's pretty much all that kills me no matter what suit I'm using: Proto scouts with proto cloaks and proto shotguns.

Now usually I don't post much and I post even less about OP stuff, but I think cloaks are just a little too common.

I have a cloaked logi that I like to use as a slightly hardened scout/medic combo and he is fun to use, but I'm not going and destroying everything in my path because I don't feel that a cloak should be used like that (which is why I put it on the logi in the first place).

It's not like anything huge needs to change but the main thing is to make the shimmer more noticeable on a lower resolution. I find the shimmer very difficult to see playing on low texture and graphical detail, especially when the framerate drops as it often does.

Another change I would make is to make it so the shimmer is incremental: moving slowly and carefully should be rewarded, whereas moving quickly should bring you to 50% visibility at least.

That's all, no QQ, just a bit tired of seeing so many cloaks be used to put scouts into the dominant power position.

Eyes man. Gal scout was always the ones that was able to avoid any scan - it's just now they don't have to sacrifice all four low slots anymore.

I agree however that a cool down nerf on top of the precision nerf on the proto-focused (after fixing 360 scanning) was overkill. It's not worth equipping one to even force a Gal scout to use half their lows for dampeners.

I would be fine with this honestly, but then they need to get rid of the shimmer.

Right now, cloaks are meant to be used as camping devices, due to the huger movement shimmer.

If you make them deactivate on proximity, you ruin it in all honesty (in their current form). I can't run because the shimmer gives me away, and I can't stay still and hope you don't see me.

However, if you let me run away with a good cloak, and force it to decloak on proximity, you can turn the cloak into a escape or flanking tool. Useless up close, but fantastic at hiding your movements at range.

I want this. I've only ever wanted the cloak to be like this, but the stupid shimmer mechanic ruined it.

I wonder... what kind of TV's do you people have? I'm using an HD TV, and I see scouts just fine, whether I'm playing as a scout, medium, or heavy suit, with any weapon that I'm comfortable with. I really don't get why people think they're OP. I don't know if there is a large varying difference in cloak visibility between TVs and settings. Personally, I have my brightness way up.

I seem to recall, sometime after cloaks had been confirmed as a feature for 1.8, that the CPM had demanded from CCP that cloaks would not function as a fire-from-unseen weapon, and were designed solely to be used as a tactical piece of equipment that facilitated stealthy movement around the map. I seem to recall -and I could well be incorrect on this- that the demand was met, and CCP promised that cloaks would not amount to weaponised invisibility.

My experience with cloaked scouts causes me to reconsider whether any of the above ever actually occurred.

I actually like cloaks, though I don't use them myself. I like the idea of them. But I'm getting really tired of being obliterated by them match in, match out. Simply put, in the time it takes for th scout to fully decloak, they have already fired. I run a brick-tanked Amarr commando suit and advanced-gear SG's are comfortably polishing me off I. Two rounds, the first of which I never knew about. Bad scouts might die after the first kill. Good scouts might take out half a squad before they get taken out. A proper scout is truly monstrous.

To those of you who say "the hard counter is situational awareness": both true and untrue. I have knocked many cloaked suits out by watching out for them, seeing the shimmer, and melting them accordingly. The problem arises when you are pressed to deal with in cloaked suits; at that moment, you are focusing, perhaps ADS'ing, on another target, and then BLAP. You have died. How did the scout know when to strike so precisely? Because the tacnet told them what direction you were facing and so they had every advantage they required, whilst you had no way of countering it.

I have no concrete idea how to fix that, or even if it actually needs to be fixed. On a whim, I'd say give firing from cloaked both a buff and a nerf: buff the damage from firing from cloaked slightly, bit massively nerf the ROF of your weapon for a few seconds after you I cloak. In this sense the scout becomes a one-hit-kill specialist, but god help it if it misses or tries to take on multiple suits.

Thought?

Victory, by any means

And how do you propose he find the Maxed out Gallente Scouts with 2 Complex Dampners? That's a trick question, because nothing and I mean nothing can scan them.

Buff Scanners, Increase Scouts Profile a few dB's

Until that happens, Scout- in particular the Gallente Scout=crutch. I don't care what anyone says, it is what it is.

I lost the majority of my vision in my left eye in a freak chemical accident at work. With that being said I still don't have too much of an issue seeing cloaked scouts. I think most people lack general awareness as opposed to not actually seeing them. I use a 32" Samsung HDTV on low graphic settings (helps with the FPS drops).

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