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The-Beard wrote:

RINON114 wrote:

Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:

The-Beard wrote:

RINON114 wrote:

I kind of agree with the cloak being OP.

Nearly every match I'm in that's pretty much all that kills me no matter what suit I'm using: Proto scouts with proto cloaks and proto shotguns.

Now usually I don't post much and I post even less about OP stuff, but I think cloaks are just a little too common.

I have a cloaked logi that I like to use as a slightly hardened scout/medic combo and he is fun to use, but I'm not going and destroying everything in my path because I don't feel that a cloak should be used like that (which is why I put it on the logi in the first place).

It's not like anything huge needs to change but the main thing is to make the shimmer more noticeable on a lower resolution. I find the shimmer very difficult to see playing on low texture and graphical detail, especially when the framerate drops as it often does.

Another change I would make is to make it so the shimmer is incremental: moving slowly and carefully should be rewarded, whereas moving quickly should bring you to 50% visibility at least.

That's all, no QQ, just a bit tired of seeing so many cloaks be used to put scouts into the dominant power position.

What are you talking about? Scouts are so UP even with cloaks.. and the times on cloaks are to short as well. I won't even get into the lack of HP you can fit on scouts now either.. really dude, wtf are you talking about?

Uh oh, somebody's I WIN button has been challenged.

Scouts are anything but UP, they beat any medium frame at almost everything hands down lol. The solution should be to buff the mediums but scouts are still running around not scouting and instead slaying.

If you want to scout, be a scout.

Sarcasm.. you should both look that up some time. I really can't see how you couldn't pick up on that.

Just to clear you know who both of you are.. that was to RINON114 and Operative 1171 Aajli. Didn't want you to miss that like you missed the sarcasm.


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RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 577	Posted - 2014.04.10 08:32:00 - [1] - Quote I kind of agree with the cloak being OP. Nearly every match I'm in that's pretty much all that kills me no matter what suit I'm using: Proto scouts with proto cloaks and proto shotguns. Now usually I don't post much and I post even less about OP stuff, but I think cloaks are just a little too common. I have a cloaked logi that I like to use as a slightly hardened scout/medic combo and he is fun to use, but I'm not going and destroying everything in my path because I don't feel that a cloak should be used like that (which is why I put it on the logi in the first place). It's not like anything huge needs to change but the main thing is to make the shimmer more noticeable on a lower resolution. I find the shimmer very difficult to see playing on low texture and graphical detail, especially when the framerate drops as it often does. Another change I would make is to make it so the shimmer is incremental: moving slowly and carefully should be rewarded, whereas moving quickly should bring you to 50% visibility at least. That's all, no QQ, just a bit tired of seeing so many cloaks be used to put scouts into the dominant power position.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 577	Posted - 2014.04.10 09:12:00 - [2] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: The-Beard wrote: RINON114 wrote: I kind of agree with the cloak being OP. Nearly every match I'm in that's pretty much all that kills me no matter what suit I'm using: Proto scouts with proto cloaks and proto shotguns. Now usually I don't post much and I post even less about OP stuff, but I think cloaks are just a little too common. I have a cloaked logi that I like to use as a slightly hardened scout/medic combo and he is fun to use, but I'm not going and destroying everything in my path because I don't feel that a cloak should be used like that (which is why I put it on the logi in the first place). It's not like anything huge needs to change but the main thing is to make the shimmer more noticeable on a lower resolution. I find the shimmer very difficult to see playing on low texture and graphical detail, especially when the framerate drops as it often does. Another change I would make is to make it so the shimmer is incremental: moving slowly and carefully should be rewarded, whereas moving quickly should bring you to 50% visibility at least. That's all, no QQ, just a bit tired of seeing so many cloaks be used to put scouts into the dominant power position. What are you talking about? Scouts are so UP even with cloaks.. and the times on cloaks are to short as well. I won't even get into the lack of HP you can fit on scouts now either.. really dude, wtf are you talking about? Uh oh, somebody's I WIN button has been challenged. Scouts are anything but UP, they beat any medium frame at almost everything hands down lol. The solution should be to buff the mediums but scouts are still running around not scouting and instead slaying. If you want to scout, be a scout.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 580	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:08:00 - [3] - Quote The-Beard wrote: RINON114 wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: The-Beard wrote: RINON114 wrote: I kind of agree with the cloak being OP. Nearly every match I'm in that's pretty much all that kills me no matter what suit I'm using: Proto scouts with proto cloaks and proto shotguns. Now usually I don't post much and I post even less about OP stuff, but I think cloaks are just a little too common. I have a cloaked logi that I like to use as a slightly hardened scout/medic combo and he is fun to use, but I'm not going and destroying everything in my path because I don't feel that a cloak should be used like that (which is why I put it on the logi in the first place). It's not like anything huge needs to change but the main thing is to make the shimmer more noticeable on a lower resolution. I find the shimmer very difficult to see playing on low texture and graphical detail, especially when the framerate drops as it often does. Another change I would make is to make it so the shimmer is incremental: moving slowly and carefully should be rewarded, whereas moving quickly should bring you to 50% visibility at least. That's all, no QQ, just a bit tired of seeing so many cloaks be used to put scouts into the dominant power position. What are you talking about? Scouts are so UP even with cloaks.. and the times on cloaks are to short as well. I won't even get into the lack of HP you can fit on scouts now either.. really dude, wtf are you talking about? Uh oh, somebody's I WIN button has been challenged. Scouts are anything but UP, they beat any medium frame at almost everything hands down lol. The solution should be to buff the mediums but scouts are still running around not scouting and instead slaying. If you want to scout, be a scout. Sarcasm.. you should both look that up some time. I really can't see how you couldn't pick up on that. Just to clear you know who both of you are.. that was to RINON114 and Operative 1171 Aajli. Didn't want you to miss that like you missed the sarcasm. It is a truth, universally acknowledged that sarcasm doesn't work on the internet. Anyway... The cloak isn't super OP or anything but could simply do with a little balancing. @NAV HIV: I also have an alt cal scout and I very rarely get discovered by amyone. I also use lots of different modules on my logi/scout fit. He is a hybrid for a reason as there is a fantastic feeling of reviving your buddies then watching them gun down the squad who thought they'd won the match. As for sort of calling for a nerf, that's what I like to call balancing. It's not massively nerfing stuff, but tweaking the cloak slightly to make it fit with what it should be doing. Please don't presume to know my fits and what I do and don't use.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 583	Posted - 2014.04.10 22:05:00 - [4] - Quote Maybe the cloak should be used as a more defensive (or offensive, depending how you see it) role. Scouts and the cloak should be primarily for scouting, calling targets and hacking points etc. It shouldn't be the GÇ£get up close without being seen because I have a shotgunGÇ¥ button that it is now. Maybe even just a longer delay on shooting after decloak is in order, 3 or 4 seconds maybe?
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 584	Posted - 2014.04.11 08:57:00 - [5] - Quote Confirmed, cloak is broke. I just saw a guy running toward me, pull out his shotgun and blow me away: ALL WITHOUT DECLOAKING. Wtf.