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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:48:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:How to kill tanks with the minimal skill and Skill Points. 1- Skill into advanced Remote explosives 2- buy militia lav 3- call militia lav 4- strap REs to lav 5- drive lav into tank 6- tank is no more.
I do that when i'm really pissed and/or the enemy team is spamming tanks.
Oh and i killed a maddy with a militia swarm launcher yesterday, its not that hard if you actually COOPERATE with your TEAM. Jihad Jeeps only work when the tanker has poor situational awareness aka a bad tanker. You can set up a perfect ambush, but this relies on the enemy team to be too derpy to shoot your REs, either way it's about as useful as cooking grenades and throwing them at the last second, true its likely to kill most suits, but they can easily kill you in the time it takes for you to suicide bomb them. As to the second one, I've killed a tank with a Mass driver using "teamwork," just because you got the last hit with a swarm while the tank was getting pounded by a rail gun doesn't mean swarm launchers are balanced.
You see that's debatable.
Situational awareness is not an argument with a solid foundation, vehicles have terrible scan profiles, you have to accout for the tactics used to approach the HAV in the LAV, the placement of remotes on the LAV, etc......
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:1) Tanks can be seen from the orbital map thing. You can even see infantry now and then. Seriously, why are you wasting 10 lives before learning to spawn somewhere else?
2) No one has spare SP. It take >250m SP to max out everything (iirc). Make choices.
3-5) Teamwork > All. I have 5 million spare SP........ Holding onto 12 million unallocated SP for Fanfest in case they toss out the last two Heavy Weapons. Although in my case that is a choice since there is stuff I really could use now.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:How to kill tanks with the minimal skill and Skill Points. 1- Skill into advanced Remote explosives 2- buy militia lav 3- call militia lav 4- strap REs to lav 5- drive lav into tank 6- tank is no more.
I do that when i'm really pissed and/or the enemy team is spamming tanks.
Oh and i killed a maddy with a militia swarm launcher yesterday, its not that hard if you actually COOPERATE with your TEAM. Jihad Jeeps only work when the tanker has poor situational awareness aka a bad tanker. You can set up a perfect ambush, but this relies on the enemy team to be too derpy to shoot your REs, either way it's about as useful as cooking grenades and throwing them at the last second, true its likely to kill most suits, but they can easily kill you in the time it takes for you to suicide bomb them. As to the second one, I've killed a tank with a Mass driver using "teamwork," just because you got the last hit with a swarm while the tank was getting pounded by a rail gun doesn't mean swarm launchers are balanced. You see that's debatable. Situational awareness is not an argument with a solid foundation, vehicles have terrible scan profiles, you have to accout for the tactics used to approach the HAV in the LAV, the placement of remotes on the LAV, etc......
Well I guess in that case I'll use this analogy.
If you believe that scouts are OP if they shotgun Heavies then Jihad Jeeps are OP. If you think, which is of my opinion, that if the heavies sneeze at the scouts with their HMG/Sidearm they will kill over then there is nothing wrong with Jihad Jeeps. Yes the scout can get the drop and obliterate the heavy, but that scout can also be killed by a random passerby en route to the heavy while the same could be said about the Jihad Jeep. Imagine if the only thing that could kill heavies is other heavies or a shotgun and that's the state of Tanks vs. AV. Unlike tanks thank god, heavies can die to just about anything as it should be in a pvp shooter, the only thing about the heavy is that it's hardy. Tanks are immune to most things except for a few weapons and only one is truly effective, the others require multiple assailants, oh and tanks work the best against other tanks. A sentiment that is shared by no other class except redline snipers which are annoying and bullshit but they aren't in your face game breaking like tanks.
Edit: Hell at least the Jihad Jeep can't turn invisible. I don't know why tankers always insist that the game must operate differently for them then it does for everyone else. I don't care how visibly big or expensive your toy is, it's game breaking if it's not balanced in respect to the rest of the game. |
Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I'm not going to say I disagree with you...this still could have been posted in a more constructive manner though.
Honestly I was kinda tired when I wrote this. |
Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:00:00 -
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zDemoncake wrote: Some tanks are still solo-able. It depends on how the tank is positioned. Most of the time a single person doing AV work will only be enough to deter the vehicle from a certain spot.
If skillpoints are a concern, and ISK really doesn't bother you, a sica should be suffice to do the job. It would then fall on you to devise a plan of attack against a certain tank(s).
Most of the time if you get the first shot and the other tank cannot steer clear into cover, then you're most likely going to win.
Just this morning I took out 6 tanks ( 3 Gunloggis, 2 Madrugars, and a Soma.) Besides the Soma and 1 Madrugar, they were all sporting a damage mod on a particle cannon. I lost about 3 tanks in the process.
I'll admit I got lucky twice, one Gunloggi backed into a hill and missed a shot or two. One of my Madrugar kills was due to him missing 2 shots. I assume they had skills into Railgun proficiency because while I went forward, and backward; he overshot my tank by turning the turret to far in a direction.
I've actually made a railgun tank. I used it just last match actually. It was Dom (the bridge map) and my team was getting tired of all the vehicles. So I decided to bring in a tank along with them. So I'm getting ready to just start going to town on these guys, an enemy tank rolls up, and I start firing straight at him before he can even notice me. AND... nothing happened. I fire eight times, and none of them made contact, even though I was staring straight down at him. Either I wasn't firing for some reason, or the blasts where just going... who knows where. I've had this problem before, where I would be aiming down and some of my shots would hit the mountain on the other side of the map, but this is new.
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Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:02:00 -
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Seigfried Warheit wrote:Speedddogg wrote:............Its just that when there are four tanks roaming the map, and every member of my team is in hiding, hoping the tanks don't notice them, its a problem. And I, and most others, can't really do anything about it............ Thats the main thing I got from your post...seems like you playing solo and being stuck with crappy teams that just cower in fear of tanks and anything else that shoots them. I didn't have spare SP but I earned some SP and skilled into forges cause I wanted to blow up tanks adv still wrecks tanks doesn't take a lot to get to adv...I'm blowing up tanks now. Sometimes I can blow them up just by myself cause 1.7 brought a lot of terrible tankers..when I cant I ask a friend to come and help me do some tank busting. So you should probably run with a good squad or at least 1-2 other people you know like to fight back instead of taking easy ways out. This game isn't meant to be soloable and you shouldn't wine when you try to solo everything and end up face first into the ground cause you cant solo everything. When you solo don't expect any type of support cause you are not getting it.
Actually almost every battle I'm in, I'm in a squad with people from my corp. And they try to destroy the vehicles too, but they just get killed before they do any real damage. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:06:00 -
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i do quite well with popping tanks with my wykomi swarms/adv av nades.if i want to fend of infatry they get a charged ion shot to the head.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:36:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:i do quite well with popping tanks with my wykomi swarms/adv av nades.if i want to fend of infatry they get a charged ion shot to the head.
Newberry tankers don't count, they only seem good because tanks are lazy mode. If you are popping tankers with a swarm launcher and av nades they are a **** tanker. |
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