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zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.06 10:12:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I've been a PC player since forever, my first console was the PS3.
You know how long it took me before I could aim right with the DS3? An hour.
Youk now how long it took before I was competitive in online games? A week.
The "we didn't grow up on controllers" bullshit is no excuse, pick up a controller and learn to use it.
Oh and....this game has already had KB/M since the beginning so we are part of the community. Our needs are not subservient to yours. If it wasn't an intended part of the game it wouldn't be available would it? But it is, and so it should be improved so that it isn't so choppy and crappy. I just want it to be equal to DS3. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2014.04.06 10:17:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11734121 page thread about an important issue, not a single post from a dev.
You saying they (CCP) are locking repeated, duplicate threads about KBM, in their forum, where they have a rule against repeated, duplicate threads?!?
Well, they also have a rule against discussing moderation of their forum ...
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2014.04.06 10:18:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I've been a PC player since forever, my first console was the PS3.
You know how long it took me before I could aim right with the DS3? An hour.
Youk now how long it took before I was competitive in online games? A week.
The "we didn't grow up on controllers" bullshit is no excuse, pick up a controller and learn to use it.
Counter-point: We're not all 14-year olds, with still-elastic brains :)
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
270
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Posted - 2014.04.06 11:51:00 -
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Look, videogames are meant for our enjoyment. If I don't enjoy a particular control device, I will use another that is more comfortable. To say the Kb/M is EZ-mode, is an ignorant statement. My average weekly KDR nearly tripled, when I stopped trying to use native mouse support with Dust. A mouse emulator using DS3 as a input has been far more effective. Though I hate how it feels with rather jerky movement compared to direct mouse input. Slap on some AA & all is well. The reality it Kb/m players are & have been at a disadvantage, While DS3 gets AA.
Kb/M is not EZ-mode, AA is. & until CCP give Kb/m raw input, I will continue to use DS3's advantages with my prefered input method. |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
270
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Posted - 2014.04.06 12:11:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Overall, my disapproval for KBM is based on my own experience on using it, not just random whining...
I did not know BF3/4 supported Kb/M on console?
If you use a Kb/M on a console game that, 1)doesn't support it & 2)has generous auto-aim/aim assist. Then I agree that you do get a unfair advantage. Which is why native support is so important, so that the devs can prevent mouse user from using the same aim assist as DS3 players. But ATM the mouse is not raw input, & it often moves on it's own in the middle of a firefight(unacceptable). Just try plugging in a Kb/M in Dust before you speak of you experiences. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2014.04.06 14:55:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11734121 page thread about an important issue, not a single post from a dev. You saying they (CCP) are locking repeated, duplicate threads about KBM, in their forum, where they have a rule against repeated, duplicate threads?!? Well, they also have a rule against discussing moderation of their forum ...
what a good looking question, there was one threadnought going on the subject, the main goal of the thread was asking CCP what they are doing to fix the mouse, if they are doing anything at all, its not an overly demanding request considering the vapid nonsense they respond to regularly on the forums.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2014.04.06 14:56:00 -
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VonSpliff wrote:Stop QQ and buy the Eagle Eye like every other kb/m user. It works great for all ps3 fps games.
done that, still miss the old KB/M and would prefer not to use emulation junk at all.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.06 15:22:00 -
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I cannot physically comprehend how someone making use of device that aims for him in a shooter has the guts to call anything ez-mode.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.06 15:32:00 -
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You will never have the 360 twitch movement of a kb and mouse, be quiet already. I'm far better with a kB and mouse so your subtle attempts for a great advantage are very obvious.
There's also a guy in my corp called x7 lion, he switched from controller to kB and mouse, he's a shotgun/knife scout.
Get good, seriously.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
Dust for over a year, gaming for over 18 and counting.
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
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Posted - 2014.04.06 15:34:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:Look, videogames are meant for our enjoyment. If I don't enjoy a particular control device, I will use another that is more comfortable. To say the Kb/M is EZ-mode, is an ignorant statement. My average weekly KDR nearly tripled, when I stopped trying to use native mouse support with Dust. A mouse emulator using DS3 as a input has been far more effective. Though I hate how it feels with rather jerky movement compared to direct mouse input. Slap on some AA & all is well. The reality it Kb/m players are & have been at a disadvantage, While DS3 gets AA.
Kb/M is not EZ-mode, AA is. & until CCP give Kb/m raw input, I will continue to use DS3's advantages with my prefered input method.
This however I can get behind, the actual function itself needs fine tuning but for those of you that want raw input like we are used to, gtfo lol, I see you.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
Dust for over a year, gaming for over 18 and counting.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.06 15:59:00 -
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The thing people ***** and moan about is inconsistency in movement, and retarded levelsof negative acceleration.
TOLD514
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.06 16:40:00 -
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Support ticket posted with this thread linked doubt it will do any good as my other support ticket per month of kb/m being broken haven't accomplished ****, but hey guess it's worth a 9th try... |
zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:43:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. Unless you have a health condition that prevents you from fully utilizing a Dual Shock 3, i think KBM is just a very try-hard thing to use....
Just saying. Some of us didn't grow up using controllers and it's just too hard for us. Im 28.
I played Computer games YEARS before i got my first console a Super Nintendo.
I guess im a genius since i can use a DS3 pretty well without the need to use a mouse that lets you insta aim at the enemies' HEAD without any effort at all...
BUT OK.ANYHOW, Dust is not a PC game, K&M should be removed considering is an unfair advantage some players
Bro....have you tried KBM in DUST? The laggy offness of it together with the choppiness of the game and no aim assist makes it not a win button at all IMHO. |
zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:49:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:VonSpliff wrote:Stop QQ and buy the Eagle Eye like every other kb/m user. It works great for all ps3 fps games. done that, still miss the old KB/M and would prefer not to use emulation junk at all.
Is it better than just plugging the mouse into the ps3? |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I've been a PC player since forever, my first console was the PS3.
You know how long it took me before I could aim right with the DS3? An hour.
Youk now how long it took before I was competitive in online games? A week.
The "we didn't grow up on controllers" bullshit is no excuse, pick up a controller and learn to use it.
I know how to use a controller. I have had a console right next to my PC for almost 2 decades. I still & will forever choose not to for FPS', regardless of platform or native support. Simply because I want to & can.
There are games on PC that feel better with a controller & I can simply plug 1 in. A mouse is better for aiming, period. & that's what I use, period. |
Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:56:00 -
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Get an EagleEye or GIMX and play M/KB with Aim Assist. Beat CCP at their own game.
Mouse with aim assist is like playing with a stealth aimbot. It's pretty hilarious but you gotta be careful if you go and play other PC FPS games because it can make you really bad/lazy at aiming if you get too used to it.
Either way, it's funny seeing the DS3 v M/KB crowds go at it. Let's face it, the people who play M/KB like me are going to figure it out and stomp you controller heathens regardless if they provide support for it or not.
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DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.04.06 23:43:00 -
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gravalicious wrote:
Then don't play Dust and quit your crying.
I'm not crying. I use a mouse & have aim assist. & until CCP simply gives us raw input, I will continue to do so like I have for the past 6yrs on my PS3. Do you think I used a DS3 while playing MAG? nope. But interesting enough MAG had absolutely no AA & I stood no better of a chance than a proficient DS3 user. The only ones really crying are DS3 users, crying unfair mouse is EZ-mode etc... when they clearly have not actually tried it with Dust. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.07 02:46:00 -
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Its not the DS3 users man, its just the scrubs that lack the capacity to move their limbs on their own.
TOLD514
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SPESHULz
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2014.04.07 15:48:00 -
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G Torq wrote:
Counter-point: We're not all 14-year olds, with still-elastic brains :)
So you have dementia? there is no reason why you cant use a controller if you can kbm. If you are on the forums bitching you play the game enough to learn.
kbm being cheaper isnt a reason. you can get controllers for $15 as well.
Blood flows. Death comes. War rages
Maths is OP. Those numbers kill you
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2014.04.07 21:06:00 -
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SPESHULz wrote:G Torq wrote:
Counter-point: We're not all 14-year olds, with still-elastic brains :)
So you have dementia? there is no reason why you cant use a controller if you can kbm. If you are on the forums bitching you play the game enough to learn. kbm being cheaper isnt a reason. you can get controllers for $15 as well.
It isn't KB/M users making an argument about the cost of the devices, perhaps you should read the thread before weighing in with you're considered opinion of basically "its a console game use the tool I use or get out!"
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Aythadis Smith
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.08 00:38:00 -
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I can't believe we are getting into arguments over an input device. There's USB, the system and game accepts it.
Its not like rapid fire controllers and Tac Ar, it's not AA, its not wallhacks, or fotm madness. It's not an "auto win" button.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.04.20 17:23:00 -
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The problem is that PS3 handles it like an emulation and not actual direct input method like how a PC would see most input devices. This consumes memory and generates some lag.
There is also the problem of keeping parity between the three input methods so one is not obviously superior.
I do know CCP is very busy working on things for fanfest so well see if they come up with anything concerning keyboard controls until then have some patience I know its frustrating ever since CCP Rogue stepped in but he has plans.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 17:31:00 -
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back in the good ol days mouse and keyboard users would be run out of town with torches and pitchforks, these people would be sent to special re-education camps, where they could fully understand what they are doing wrong, but now in this sissy day and age they have the gall, the audacity, the huboris overweening pride to complain merely about their threads getting locked?! it just goes to further show how ungrateful these types are and why they should be treated that way. good lord what genuinly awful people
heres some recent ones
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4830
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Posted - 2014.04.20 18:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The problem is that PS3 handles it like an emulation and not actual direct input method like how a PC would see most input devices. This consumes memory and generates some lag.
There is also the problem of keeping parity between the three input methods so one is not obviously superior.
I do know CCP is very busy working on things for fanfest so well see if they come up with anything concerning keyboard controls until then have some patience I know its frustrating ever since CCP Rogue stepped in but he has plans.
Out of complete curiosity, is the Move limited in any way?
For the 3 people who use it.
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Quest Akashor
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.20 18:48:00 -
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Yeah, apparently they released a 3.0 firmware update a while back that makes it much better. Check this Amazon review about it http://goo.gl/lchDSI |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.04.23 08:24:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The problem is that PS3 handles it like an emulation and not actual direct input method like how a PC would see most input devices. This consumes memory and generates some lag.
There is also the problem of keeping parity between the three input methods so one is not obviously superior.
I do know CCP is very busy working on things for fanfest so well see if they come up with anything concerning keyboard controls until then have some patience I know its frustrating ever since CCP Rogue stepped in but he has plans. Out of complete curiosity, is the Move limited in any way? For the 3 people who use it.
Moves a bit... weird. I know some people swear by it for some things they do such as flying.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.23 09:03:00 -
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KB/M people just need to join the DS3 plebs. This is a PS3 game, play it as such, and stop whining that your PC equipment is not fully optimized....sheesh
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