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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1785
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Posted - 2014.04.06 03:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. Unless you have a health condition that prevents you from fully utilizing a Dual Shock 3, i think KBM is just a very try-hard thing to use....
Just saying.
Lol. Why would you use a device (Dual Shock 3) designed to simulate cerebral palsy?
I mean, I might use a drill to nail a nail butGǪ
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
4860
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Posted - 2014.04.06 03:25:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. Unless you have a health condition that prevents you from fully utilizing a Dual Shock 3, i think KBM is just a very try-hard thing to use....
Just saying. Lol. Why would you use a device (Dual Shock 3) designed to simulate cerebral palsy? I mean, I might use a drill to nail a nail butGǪ
Coming from someone who appears to Use KBM AND has this as a sig ''Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!'' Like if its something to be proud of, i will in this thread ,ignore your comment.....
Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
930
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Posted - 2014.04.06 03:29:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11734121 page thread about an important issue, not a single post from a dev.
Wow, Ive been away from the forums haven't played Dust in 2months, was really hoping 1.8 would bring some tweaks to kb/m I posted in that thread quite a bit thanks for bringing this up Beld and staying on top of it.. I for one will be submitting a petition tonight...
The least CCP Devs could of done before locking it was make a generic posts saying they have read our concerns and are trying to improve KB/M or just a general "Go **** yourselves"...
Either would of worked but no reply and locking the thread ? Really unbelievable, well actually no its believable because CCP could really care less what their Player Base wants Ill put money on it that it was the pos CPMs who asked one of the devs to lock it based on their hatred towards keyboard and mouse and or PC gamers..
Maybe add a tinfoil hat in there but I've heard some of the inner workings of the CPM if friends of friends wants something done that will be the only thing they focus on and or go after the hardest.. Just look at Ironwolf and his egotistical outlook on my Valve Vs CCP thread ... He doesn't agree so no one else should... That outlook basically sums up the KB/M argument the majority think KB/M is unfair, so its unfair regardless how OP Aim assist has become and or how broken/nefred the current Kb/M is.. |
KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
563
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Posted - 2014.04.06 04:31:00 -
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Looks like we need this here too:
To get this thread back on topic:
Part of the reason we're being ignored is that we are a minority, and there are other high priority things that are broken in Dust (I can understand that, but would appreciate timetables)
But another reason is the DS3 whiners and KB/M haters that feel the absolute, burning, undesirable need to poop all over any thread having to do with KB/M.
They come with the same tired dogma: "HURR DURR DIS IS A CONSOLE", while ignoring the fact that the PS3 can do whatever you program it to do. Hell, at one point Linux was a fully supported option.
They come with the the same myths: "OMG KEYBOARD STRAFING IS OP", when no type of input can overcome the inertia of your character in the game when it comes to changing direction.
They come with the same old hyperbole: "KEYBOARDS WILL ALWAYS WIN AGAINST DS3", when in reality the top Dust players are mostly DS3 users.
And when asked why they don't switch to the KB/M Master Race and go 150 and 0: "LOL I'M NOT A TRY HARD I JUST WANT TO BE ON MY COUCH", when validating their silly hypothesis only takes $20 bucks at walmart to buy a KB/M combo.
They come with the same crap every time, they can't be reasoned with, and they come in huge numbers, with no MODs to stop them from trolling.
Start a thread about actual issues with the mouse, and the mouth breathers come full force.
Again, If you guys want to trash talk, go start a thread about how KB/M should be removed from the game.
This thread is about a feature that needs fixing. |
Aythadis Smith
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:52:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:
This thread is about a feature that needs fixing.
Just because we are getting insulted by the player base, don't mean we have to sink to their level
Remember, don't feed the trolls
But alas, rather questionable as to why we arnt getting any response. I hope it's not because of future removal.
That be the case, ZIM, GIMX, or Eagle Eye |
TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:54:00 -
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there are alot of issues with USB and the kb/m use in dust. it has a lot to do with the drivers and how much performance dust allows the usb. right now dust does not give enough memory and cpu to the usb drivers to operate smoothly. you can replicate this issue by pluging more usbs into the ps3 during play and seeing how it slows down the respones. there was a bug report about this along time ago |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:57:00 -
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Abuse of power? Says the guy in Nyain San
Saying what's on people's minds
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zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
294
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:01:00 -
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TERMINALANCE wrote:there are alot of issues with USB and the kb/m use in dust. it has a lot to do with the drivers and how much performance dust allows the usb. right now dust does not give enough memory and cpu to the usb drivers to operate smoothly. you can replicate this issue by pluging more usbs into the ps3 during play and seeing how it slows down the respones. there was a bug report about this along time ago
Yeah KB/M is fundamentally laggy and choppy. Just another thing I'm trying to ignore these days but my patience is about done. |
Beld Errmon
1565
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:06:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Abuse of power? Says the guy in Nyain San
post with your main scrub.
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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TERMINALANCE
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
283
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:08:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:TERMINALANCE wrote:there are alot of issues with USB and the kb/m use in dust. it has a lot to do with the drivers and how much performance dust allows the usb. right now dust does not give enough memory and cpu to the usb drivers to operate smoothly. you can replicate this issue by pluging more usbs into the ps3 during play and seeing how it slows down the respones. there was a bug report about this along time ago Yeah KB/M is fundamentally laggy and choppy. Just another thing I'm trying to ignore these days but my patience is about done.
This problem has alot to do with the PS3 as much as it does with dust.
Things that lead contribute to this problem
How dust and the ps3 assign cpu and memory priority for performance of USB's (it treats all usb as the same regardless of task)
how dust and the ps3 deal with wireless signals and assign priority to faster more critical usb's (they dont)
basically dust is a large performance hog, and it and the ps3 will not assign enough CPU or mem to the mouse and keyboard on the usb. Same goes for bluetooth mouse and keyboard as well.
ways you can test this.
add more use componets.
dont use the wireless headset
remove all non essental usb
try only wired
try both internal and external usb
you will get varying levels of success with that but at the end of the day it will be mediocre.
if you could find a way to alter the ps3 so it provides more cpu and memory to the drivers/usb. or changes the priority that would work best. only other option that you can consider is one of those programs/equipment that use the DS3 interface to make you able to play with a mouse through the emulation of a ds3 as the ds3 gets priority as a device.
i have not tried that but it would probably work. |
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Aythadis Smith
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:09:00 -
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Beld, fighting a troll won't help our cause ( seeming nor does filing bug reports )
Also, I know you're corp, just doesn't show it under your name.... weird. |
Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
436
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:11:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11734121 page thread about an important issue, not a single post from a dev.
what are you expecting CCP to say to this?
Me IRL :)
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Beld Errmon
1566
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:11:00 -
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Aythadis Smith wrote:Beld, fighting a troll won't help our cause ( seeming nor does filing bug reports )
Also, I know you're corp, just doesn't show it under your name.... weird.
You can hide your corp and alliance via the settings, I choose to do so because people have an irrational hatred of ppl in good corps, and my views are my own and shouldn't reflect on the corp i'm working for.
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:13:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Abuse of power? Says the guy in Nyain San post with your main scrub.
Dude I'm a scrub and I don't give a rat's ass. Does Dust 514 wows the ladies or something? Can you put it on your resume?
Saying what's on people's minds
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Beld Errmon
1566
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:13:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Absolutely unacceptable conduct CCP, you can ignore the subject but locking it is an abuse of power and I have half a mind to petition the matter, citing employee misconduct. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11734121 page thread about an important issue, not a single post from a dev. what are you expecting CCP to say to this?
They have the right to say nothing at all if they wish, but they shouldn't be trying to quietly silence debate and requests for explanations.
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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Aythadis Smith
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:14:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Aythadis Smith wrote:Beld, fighting a troll won't help our cause ( seeming nor does filing bug reports )
Also, I know you're corp, just doesn't show it under your name.... weird. You can hide your corp and alliance via the settings, I choose to do so because people have an irrational hatred of ppl in good corps, and my views are my own and shouldn't reflect on the corp i'm working for.
I'm always on mobile, which this sure is trash on. So, my lack of playing in settings....
But yeah, I'm getting a sinking feeling we are getting a shaft ( heck, when they lock troll threads, they get a response )
I fear KBM will get axed, which I see biased members of the community rejoice. |
Aythadis Smith
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:16:00 -
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I really wish I could get legit numbers of how many came here for the KBM support, and how much have they invested into this.... |
Beld Errmon
1566
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:35:00 -
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besides the trolls are good, keeps the thread on the front page and peoples opinions on this subject are set in stone so its not like minds are going to be changed at all via debate on the subject.
The only thing that matters is CCPs response to the problem which they stubbornly withhold, if their response is "we are happy with where kb/m is and will be making no further changes" then that's all they need to say.
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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Aythadis Smith
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
183
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:01:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:besides the trolls are good, keeps the thread on the front page and peoples opinions on this subject are set in stone so its not like minds are going to be changed at all via debate on the subject.
The only thing that matters is CCPs response to the problem which they stubbornly withhold, if their response is "we are happy with where kb/m is and will be making no further changes" then that's all they need to say.
The first time in my life have I now seen a troll in a positive light..... FML
And yes, if KBM WHERE by CCP stand as "fine"
So be it. I kinda wanna hear something, even if "investigating " or the most feared word
"SOONGäó" |
VonSpliff
TeamPlayers
139
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:51:00 -
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Stop QQ and buy the Eagle Eye like every other kb/m user. It works great for all ps3 fps games.
"It never got weird enough for me." Dr. T
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zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
294
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:54:00 -
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VonSpliff wrote:Stop QQ and buy the Eagle Eye like every other kb/m user. It works great for all ps3 fps games.
huh? |
zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
294
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:57:00 -
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VonSpliff wrote:Stop QQ and buy the Eagle Eye like every other kb/m user. It works great for all ps3 fps games.
Looks unusable to me. This stuff fixed?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=199572 |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12054
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:15:00 -
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There are dozens of many page threads that go completely ignored. Why would this be an exception? vOv
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
686
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:27:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are dozens of many page threads that go completely ignored. Why would this be an exception? vOv
Everyone always thinks that their problem is the worst. I do it too, CCP FIX MY PS MOVE NOW!!!
Fixing swarms
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
410
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are dozens of many page threads that go completely ignored. Why would this be an exception? vOv
Well a reason to why a thread is being locked would be nice... Then again CCP is ofcourse free to ignore and lock any thread they like to.
BOT is there any information coming out of CCP about Kb/M?
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
12057
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:32:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are dozens of many page threads that go completely ignored. Why would this be an exception? vOv Well a reason to why a thread is being locked would be nice... Then again CCP is ofcourse free to ignore and lock any thread they like to. BOT is there any information coming out of CCP about Kb/M?
Again, there are dozens of threads locked without reason.
This is a CCP forum. What did you expect?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8109
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:33:00 -
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I've been a PC player since forever, my first console was the PS3.
You know how long it took me before I could aim right with the DS3? An hour.
Youk now how long it took before I was competitive in online games? A week.
The "we didn't grow up on controllers" bullshit is no excuse, pick up a controller and learn to use it.
My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone.
If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
410
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Haerr wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There are dozens of many page threads that go completely ignored. Why would this be an exception? vOv Well a reason to why a thread is being locked would be nice... Then again CCP is ofcourse free to ignore and lock any thread they like to. BOT is there any information coming out of CCP about Kb/M? Again, there are dozens of threads locked without reason. This is a CCP forum. What did you expect?
Hmm... not sure...
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
300
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Posted - 2014.04.06 09:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I've been a PC player since forever, my first console was the PS3.
You know how long it took me before I could aim right with the DS3? An hour.
Youk now how long it took before I was competitive in online games? A week.
The "we didn't grow up on controllers" bullshit is no excuse, pick up a controller and learn to use it.
No.
I'll use a XIM because I use a controller. |
zzZaXxx
The Phoenix Federation
296
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Posted - 2014.04.06 10:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I've been a PC player since forever, my first console was the PS3.
You know how long it took me before I could aim right with the DS3? An hour.
Youk now how long it took before I was competitive in online games? A week.
The "we didn't grow up on controllers" bullshit is no excuse, pick up a controller and learn to use it.
I guess you're just the higher evolution of dweeb because I have tried with controller and i just can't get that level of tight control with my thumbs. They refuse. |
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