The point is, as a player, he is doing what he can for the community, but in-game, he will still try to win. Why should he not try to win while playing a game?

Would you please remove your lips from his azzzz?

I merely have a far better understanding of the game, and am attempting to educate.

I'll be honest kain, I didn't read that. But my personal suggestion for the whole making PC better is this, Git gud!! Or become a complete oddball like me.

Jeez you are such the corp hoping *****. Must get paid by the hour

I merely have a far better understanding of the game, and am attempting to educate.

What I do as a CPM and what I do as a player are two different things. It seems there are some players that have trouble making that distinction still.

As Kain Spero the player I will crush your corporation until there is nothing left.

As David the CPM I will do everything in my power to make sure this game works as well as it can for the health of the community and the longevity of the game.

Using my position as CPM for an in-game advantage goes against the core principles of the CPM, and if you feel that is the case submit a ticket to CCP and Internal Affairs can have a look at it.

Being a CPM doesn't make me shoot straighter or run faster or make the troops sent into battle perform any better. My goal as a player is to win but not at the cost of my real life integrity. I'm bound to the CPM as a real person not a character in a game, which is what Kain is.

This oozes arrogance.

What a bunch of cry babies, my alliance just assaulted an entire planet, every district, fighting against Kain's forces, on the ground and in space, We lost, but we had fun. He conquered districts on planets, the name of the game is planetary conquest. What does him AND SEVERAL OTHERS, talking to CCP have to do with any of that?


As an alliance leader, "Matthew Dust" I hate KAIN SPERO. My alliance will fight him tooth and nail any chance we get, you can message me on EVE and I will show up to fight his forces in space I don't care. KAIN SPERO IS A TYRANT, and a mastermind evil manipulator on par with Professor Moriarty

NOW, as a player, me Matt, the Chef who comes on to play a game, Kain Spero is a ******* god send for proposing the things he is to CCP, more clones for me to attack him with, fighting passive income, endorses one universe//one war, he is easily approached, considers your opinions, talks to you in a professional manner, gives you great responses.

I would re-elect him, especially if DNSBLACK also got elected, that would be a direct line of communications GUARENTEED TO GROW THE GAME IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION...

I understand some of you are angry because you lost your districts, my guys are, people make bad moves, Kane made good moves, get over it.

So, what does HTFU mean?

What I do as a CPM and what I do as a player are two different things. It seems there are some players that have trouble making that distinction still.

As Kain Spero the player I will crush your corporation until there is nothing left.

As David the CPM I will do everything in my power to make sure this game works as well as it can for the health of the community and the longevity of the game.

Red Star fully supports kain speros proposed changes to PC mechanics. Even if you dont like his alliance or his plans for PC these changes would give the smaller guys a fighting chance and make the game much more exciting. Everyone should support this thread if you want to ever truely experience PC.

The 2 most important in my mind are

* Increasing clone packs to 200 clones


* Opening up additional regions

I'm not sure if opening up more regions is necessary. I think they should liquidate the clones on districts plus the cost of a clone pack and wipe ownership in MH.

In my opinion the #1 reason why a 100% takeover of MH was possible is the lack of participation in PC. Over the last 11 months the poor mechanics and game performance dwindled the numbers down. This isn't to take away from the skill and dominance of Those on top, just a realization that is easy to see if one is being honest with his/herself.

This way owners don't get screwed out of what they earned, but we get to start anew. I think for the opening weeks of PC 2.0 that clone packs should only be available to non district holders and they should be cheaper than normal. Call it an event, but the Dust community as a whole has to get more involved for PC to grow into something great.

Can confirm Kain hasn't any advantages !

Seriously, he goes 0/5 in our last CB


In a serious note, your ideas for PC are good but i think 80 millions is too much. I know its nothing for the old corps engaged in PC, but too much for new corps.

PC needs to be entirely re-envisioned, not just suffer arbitrary fumbling with numbers like clone counts and ISK. The fact is PC is boring as hell and far too large an investment for people with lives outside of DUST.

What does this in turn promote? Well, exactly what we have right now. Massive blue donuts and conglomeration of all competent PC-worthy players into these megacorps.

It only makes sense, though. You can't possibly hope to own any territory as a corp unless you have at least 20-30+ competent players who are online A LOT and are willing to play at any given time. The circumstances revolving around deploying attacks/defending districts require a strict schedule of being online at certain times to take part in battles. If you happen to have a job or what have you and can't make it to that battle, your corp loses its territory and you're now stuck in Clone Pack land. There's no room for little guys in this game, and so you get blue donuts.

It's not like EVE where even if you're just a handful of guys you can go logon whenever and wreak some havoc in nullsec and still profit. No, in this game, you need 16 GOOD players at a SPECIFIC time on a CERTAIN day, and sometimes consecutively . It's not feasible nor rewarding for the majority of players whatsoever. Increasing clone counts and reducing profits doesn't give incentive for the new guys.

PC is this: repetitive, laggy Skirmishes on pre-determined maps at pre-determined times vying for colored squares on a starmap that will ultimately function as ISK drills for your corp. There's no sense of consistency to it at all. No reward beyond ISK which can be easily made in other ventures. Nothing PC provides really shines and gives people that hope of "Yeah! I really need to train to get into PC so I can reap these rewards!" Dealing in petty politics and the frustration of getting people online to defend districts is not worth getting grey hairs over.

Like I said, PC needs to be re-envisioned to be made fun, not just have some numbers tweaked and declare "fixed!".

I disagree. 80 Million is a perfectly reasonable amount for a 200 clone pack. Lots of 1 man corps waste 36 million nearly every day on clone packs.

Idc if a vet finds it boring or stressful to defend there massive amount of districts. These changes are for the lil guys wondering what pc is like. 120 clones isnt enough for a competitive match. 200 clones is enough so people actually have a chance to experience PC. Let them decide for themselves whats fun and worth there time.

Sure. Go ahead. Go experience PC and see how much a blast it is.

So, what does HTFU mean?