Red Star fully supports kain speros proposed changes to PC mechanics. Even if you dont like his alliance or his plans for PC these changes would give the smaller guys a fighting chance and make the game much more exciting. Everyone should support this thread if you want to ever truely experience PC.

The 2 most important in my mind are

* Increasing clone packs to 200 clones


* Opening up additional regions

Are you telling me I should experience it? Or in general? Believe it or not some people actually enjoy competition on first person shooters.

PC needs to be entirely re-envisioned, not just suffer arbitrary fumbling with numbers like clone counts and ISK. The fact is PC is boring as hell and far too large an investment for people with lives outside of DUST.

What does this in turn promote? Well, exactly what we have right now. Massive blue donuts and conglomeration of all competent PC-worthy players into these megacorps.

It only makes sense, though. You can't possibly hope to own any territory as a corp unless you have at least 20-30+ competent players who are online A LOT and are willing to play at any given time. The circumstances revolving around deploying attacks/defending districts require a strict schedule of being online at certain times to take part in battles. If you happen to have a job or what have you and can't make it to that battle, your corp loses its territory and you're now stuck in Clone Pack land. There's no room for little guys in this game, and so you get blue donuts.

It's not like EVE where even if you're just a handful of guys you can go logon whenever and wreak some havoc in nullsec and still profit. No, in this game, you need 16 GOOD players at a SPECIFIC time on a CERTAIN day, and sometimes consecutively. Then you have cases like Nyain San's districts which are effectively unattackable due to their timers being set right after downtime. It's not feasible nor rewarding for the majority of players whatsoever. Increasing clone counts and reducing profits doesn't give incentive for the new guys.

PC is this: repetitive, laggy Skirmishes on pre-determined maps at pre-determined times vying for colored squares on a starmap that will ultimately function as ISK drills for your corp. There's no sense of consistency to it at all. No reward beyond ISK which can be easily made in other ventures. Nothing PC provides really shines and gives people that hope of "Yeah! I really need to train to get into PC so I can reap these rewards!" Dealing in petty politics and the frustration of getting people online to defend districts is not worth getting grey hairs over.

Like I said, PC needs to be re-envisioned to be made fun, not just have some numbers tweaked and declare "fixed!".

150 clones, the same as what the REST of this game is based on, should be returned as an option at the VERY least.

200 clone 'packs'? that is pretty much against the entire setup of Dust.

plus, with the exception of Radar and maybe 1 or 2 other corps, seriously who is gonna roll the dice on 80 million isk? for a single battle?

and in 99% of potential cases of the attacker actually winning, the auto-reup would ensure a loss.

150 clone packs need to return, and if your corp continues to use the excuse that you don't have enough clones with 150, then you better go back to the drawing board and rethink your strategy

120 is not enough, better than the 100 clone packs, but still not enough. 200 now places the advantage to the attacker, which should never be the case in the scenario of attacking vs defending...

I know I know... #logic has no place 'round here

I won't downplay the accomplishments of Kain, the universe is built around people like him, who try to control things by any means necessary. He in that respect he is to be acknowledged, but the bluing up an monopolization of Molden Heath is not a step in the right direction for the game as a whole. It may highlight PCs flaws but it doesn't change the fact that it alienates 99% of the playerbase from PC and allows the other 1% to amass unchecked wealth thus creating a greater imbalance for a future player market. Any changes to fix that can't be implemented fast enough to make it matter.

A lot of us figured this was going to happen from the start, and if it wasn't Kain it would have been someone else.

The sandbox of good fights will soon be gone, so what's the point of PC other than farming ISK?