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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 242	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:03:00 - [1] - Quote Is it because people hate change why really.... Why? Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Alena Ventrallis PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn 1120	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:05:00 - [2] - Quote Unwillingness to adapt. Truly though, cloaks need to not give a dampening bonus and have their up[time and cooldowns flipped, and they'll be in a good place. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4795	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:06:00 - [3] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Unwillingness to adapt. Truly though, cloaks need to not give a dampening bonus and have their up[time and cooldowns flipped, and they'll be in a good place. GÖª I can agree with the Dampening removal GÖª uptime and cooldown flipped? You nuts. I could live with a 10 seconds uptime reduction thou. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 100	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:07:00 - [4] - Quote There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Watch your back because I might be there.
Espartoi Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 168	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:09:00 - [5] - Quote Again with this... Hail to all Winmatars. 07
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5745	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:10:00 - [6] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment: not so much. -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner: necessary for two of four scouts. -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak: bug that should be fixed soon. Where is the downside to it? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
1pawn dust Algintal Core Gallente Federation 109	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:11:00 - [7] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? pretty much this, and can have a suit better than assaults with more ehp and that bonus shotgun blast to the face, priceless
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:14:00 - [8] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? The extreme cpu pg not using weapons THINK MAN THINK!!!!! Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 451	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:14:00 - [9] - Quote cloaks arnt op
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 508	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:16:00 - [10] - Quote You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )

JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:16:00 - [11] - Quote 1pawn dust wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? pretty much this, and can have a suit better than assaults with more ehp and that bonus shotgun blast to the face, priceless If you fit it like that. and that that has nothing to do with cloaks thats the scouts ehp that people exploit. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 986	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:16:00 - [12] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3925	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:17:00 - [13] - Quote It killed me, therefore nerf... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:19:00 - [14] - Quote medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 102	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:24:00 - [15] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? Well yes as a matter of fact there is. RR, less damage, more range, look it has a down side HMG more damage less range, look positive and negative again nanohive, you can only carry 2-3, it only has a range of 5-10 meters, it has limited usage Now stop being stupid. Watch your back because I might be there.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:26:00 - [16] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? Well yes as a matter of fact there is. RR, less damage, more range, look it has a down side HMG more damage less range, look positive and negative again nanohive, you can only carry 2-3, it only has a range of 5-10 meters, it has limited usage Now stop being stupid. DO YOU GUYS NOT ******* SEE THE CLEAR AND BOLD CPU AND PG USAGE DAMNIT!!!! Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1002	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:27:00 - [17] - Quote Few reasons why people are upset: 1. It is new and therefore popular. Seeing it all the time gets something a lot of ire. 2. It is annoying as hell. Getting jumped and killed is frustrating. If you lose in a 'fair' 1v1 due to poor aiming, you are annoyed at yourself. If you lose due to them out DPS'ing you because of prototype weapons, you are annoyed at the prototype weapon ("I would have won if that try-hard wasn't use a proto suit!"). Getting jumped to where you couldn't even fight back gives you no easy outlet for that annoyance. When Cloaks make it easier, you blame them. 3. A 6k suit kills prototype gear fairly easily when you can get the jump. Cloaks make sure you get the jump. 4. Cloaks require no different style of play in order to use and give a large bump in power. I think most of it can be explained by the above. I am not discrediting any possible balance issues but that is generally why people complain about anything, "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion League of Infamy 168	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:30:00 - [18] - Quote Cloaks are fine at first I disliked it but it taught me to be more aware of my surroundings, now I'm more paranoid than ever before! Volcano ash textures make me **** bricks thinking a scout running by ready for a kill. Also it gives me great training killing cloaked scouts/anything with the charged sniper rifle. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 509	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:32:00 - [19] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching You don't have to go searching, I provided you a link. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:36:00 - [20] - Quote How could a person complain about it if there not trying to even counter it omg my heavy cant see it my assault my logi cant see it then fit some damn precision enhancers. Because clearly scouts should be visble even to a rock 2 miles away. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits

Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:37:00 - [21] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? Well yes as a matter of fact there is. RR, less damage, more range, look it has a down side HMG more damage less range, look positive and negative again nanohive, you can only carry 2-3, it only has a range of 5-10 meters, it has limited usage Now stop being stupid. DO YOU GUYS NOT *** SEE THE CLEAR AND BOLD CPU AND PG USAGE DAMNIT!!!! Lol - 75% for scouts What CPU/PG usage lol Watch your back because I might be there.
KGB Sleep 985	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:37:00 - [22] - Quote It isn't hard to counter cloaks. It is an excuse people are using to invalidate their deaths. You can watch this video from forever ago that shows scouts doing the same thing they are today. Cloaks became an excuse for people to write off a lack of situational awareness. There are a lot of egos laying crushed and broken after the heavy and scout became capable of dealing with the slayer logis. CCP did right by cloaking. They should stand by their design. Because beer, that's why.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:38:00 - [23] - Quote medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching You don't have to go searching, I provided you a link. You seem like a nice guy but I've already branded you as an enemy in this thread. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:39:00 - [24] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? Well yes as a matter of fact there is. RR, less damage, more range, look it has a down side HMG more damage less range, look positive and negative again nanohive, you can only carry 2-3, it only has a range of 5-10 meters, it has limited usage Now stop being stupid. DO YOU GUYS NOT *** SEE THE CLEAR AND BOLD CPU AND PG USAGE DAMNIT!!!! Lol - 75% for scouts What CPU/PG usage lol it takes 1/2 - 1/3 of it **** Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 509	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:46:00 - [25] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching You don't have to go searching, I provided you a link. You seem like a nice guy but I've already branded you as an enemy in this thread. Oh noes, I'm being labeled "enemy" for giving you what you asked for. And not one ** was given. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )**
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:46:00 - [26] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: It isn't hard to counter cloaks. It is an excuse people are using to invalidate their deaths. You can watch this video from forever ago that shows scouts doing the same thing they are today. Cloaks became an excuse for people to write off a lack of situational awareness. There are a lot of egos laying crushed and broken after the heavy and scout became capable of dealing with the slayer logis. CCP did right by cloaking. They should stand by their design. FotM'er here Sure 1 free undetectable undodgeable strike from an invisible opponent is totally the same as it was before, totally..... dumbass. Watch your back because I might be there.
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:48:00 - [27] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: it takes 1/2 - 1/3 of it **** God you are stupid. what is 15 x 5? OH yeah, 75 so 15% reduction per lvl, with 5 levels, is what genius? Watch your back because I might be there.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:48:00 - [28] - Quote medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching You don't have to go searching, I provided you a link. You seem like a nice guy but I've already branded you as an enemy in this thread. Oh noes, I'm being labeled "enemy" for giving you what you asked for. And not one **** was given. I looked back with a tear never to return again T-T Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:51:00 - [29] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: it takes 1/2 - 1/3 of it ** God you are stupid. what is 15 x 5? OH yeah, 75 so 15% reduction per lvl, with 5 levels, is what genius? actually I just tested it you dumb *** I actually have a scout suit Caldari C/1 series Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:53:00 - [30] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: It isn't hard to counter cloaks. It is an excuse people are using to invalidate their deaths. You can watch this video from forever ago that shows scouts doing the same thing they are today. Cloaks became an excuse for people to write off a lack of situational awareness. There are a lot of egos laying crushed and broken after the heavy and scout became capable of dealing with the slayer logis. CCP did right by cloaking. They should stand by their design. FotM'er here Sure 1 free undetectable undodgeable strike from an invisible opponent is totally the same as it was before, totally..... dumbass. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits



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