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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 242	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:03:00 - [1] - Quote Is it because people hate change why really.... Why? Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:14:00 - [2] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? The extreme cpu pg not using weapons THINK MAN THINK!!!!! Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:16:00 - [3] - Quote 1pawn dust wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? pretty much this, and can have a suit better than assaults with more ehp and that bonus shotgun blast to the face, priceless If you fit it like that. and that that has nothing to do with cloaks thats the scouts ehp that people exploit. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:19:00 - [4] - Quote medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:26:00 - [5] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? Well yes as a matter of fact there is. RR, less damage, more range, look it has a down side HMG more damage less range, look positive and negative again nanohive, you can only carry 2-3, it only has a range of 5-10 meters, it has limited usage Now stop being stupid. DO YOU GUYS NOT ******* SEE THE CLEAR AND BOLD CPU AND PG USAGE DAMNIT!!!! Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:36:00 - [6] - Quote How could a person complain about it if there not trying to even counter it omg my heavy cant see it my assault my logi cant see it then fit some damn precision enhancers. Because clearly scouts should be visble even to a rock 2 miles away. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:38:00 - [7] - Quote medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching You don't have to go searching, I provided you a link. You seem like a nice guy but I've already branded you as an enemy in this thread. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:39:00 - [8] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Ludvig Enraga wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: There is absolutely no down side to fitting one. You get: -visual concealment -a free stacking penalty free complex profile dampner -1 free undodgable shot from the weapon of choice as you decloak Where is the downside to it? Lol, is there a down side to fitting a RR or an HMG? Is there a down side to carrying a nanohive? Is there a downside to having kincat? Wtf you smoking? Well yes as a matter of fact there is. RR, less damage, more range, look it has a down side HMG more damage less range, look positive and negative again nanohive, you can only carry 2-3, it only has a range of 5-10 meters, it has limited usage Now stop being stupid. DO YOU GUYS NOT *** SEE THE CLEAR AND BOLD CPU AND PG USAGE DAMNIT!!!! Lol - 75% for scouts What CPU/PG usage lol it takes 1/2 - 1/3 of it **** Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:48:00 - [9] - Quote medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: medomai grey wrote: You know there are other threads covering this topic right? And that you could've read any of those threads to answer your question instead of creating another thread on the same bloody topic. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=151761 Your welcome. Your not thanked or welcomed that thread isn't on the main page so I won't go searching You don't have to go searching, I provided you a link. You seem like a nice guy but I've already branded you as an enemy in this thread. Oh noes, I'm being labeled "enemy" for giving you what you asked for. And not one **** was given. I looked back with a tear never to return again T-T Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:51:00 - [10] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: it takes 1/2 - 1/3 of it ** God you are stupid. what is 15 x 5? OH yeah, 75 so 15% reduction per lvl, with 5 levels, is what genius? actually I just tested it you dumb *** I actually have a scout suit Caldari C/1 series Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits

JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:53:00 - [11] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: It isn't hard to counter cloaks. It is an excuse people are using to invalidate their deaths. You can watch this video from forever ago that shows scouts doing the same thing they are today. Cloaks became an excuse for people to write off a lack of situational awareness. There are a lot of egos laying crushed and broken after the heavy and scout became capable of dealing with the slayer logis. CCP did right by cloaking. They should stand by their design. FotM'er here Sure 1 free undetectable undodgeable strike from an invisible opponent is totally the same as it was before, totally..... dumbass. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:06:00 - [12] - Quote First off Clearly your one of the two 2nd off do you even run scouts or cloaks do you know how much cpu/pg after you get proto? Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 244	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:08:00 - [13] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: I am going to play that off like you actually knew what I meant, I just don't want to believe that two of the stupidest people on the planet are inhabiting the same thread. Well you should stop hanging out in JARRELL's threads then. What so your calling me stupid? because I asked a simple question ****? Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 245	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:32:00 - [14] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: First off Clearly your one of the two 2nd off do you even run scouts or cloaks do you know how much cpu/pg after you get proto? IDK wtf this is even supposed to mean? Do you know how to compose a f-ing thought using words or are you just that incredibly dim-witted? LOOK AT THE SKILL "Scout Suit Bonus: +15% bonus to the PG/CPU cost of cloak field per level." So WTF does this mean in idiot-land? Out here in normal-land, it means a 75% reduction to the fitting cost of the cloak, it also means cloaks aren't very expensive to fit. I could give 2 ***** about 75% because I have lvl 3 wich means 88/248 cpu and 19/52 pg which is about 1/2-1/3 like I said Now good by farewell. I hope you dont keep grudges lol. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 246	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:42:00 - [15] - Quote and also 75% bonus on an advance suit is 128/248 cpu 8.75/52 pretty low on pg but still high on cpu and I was using basic as example. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 246	Posted - 2014.04.04 11:28:00 - [16] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: and also 75% bonus on an advance suit is 128/248 cpu 8.75/52 pretty low on pg but still high on cpu and I was using basic as example. 330 base CPU (at proto, which you don't even need to bother with tbh) multiplied by 0.25 is not 128 Please l2maths. because I said 75% not 25% read first Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 247	Posted - 2014.04.05 20:26:00 - [17] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: and also 75% bonus on an advance suit is 128/248 cpu 8.75/52 pretty low on pg but still high on cpu and I was using basic as example. 330 base CPU (at proto, which you don't even need to bother with tbh) multiplied by 0.25 is not 128 Please l2maths. because I said 75% not 25% read first Removing 75% of something means 25% is left. To work out the final value, you can EITHER: 1. Multiply by 0.75 2. Subtract result from original value. OR: 1. Multiply by 0.25 So as was so eloquently stated by Lorhack, "l2maths". And I multiplied .75 subtract total. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits