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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:28:00 -
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Now since Mimi suits are by far the weakest of all , with the exception of heavy suits ... it has dawned to me that they should have the 1HP armor repair replaced back into the fold for Mimi's .
To give it to the race that armor tanks , has the greatest ability to armor rep and have max armor seems kind of like an overkill . Series Gal suits in the five hundreds in armor while Mimi suits lack in every department with the exception of speed .
Weak shields in this game leaves that in want , only two low slots , for the most part leaves this race in a most unfortunate disposition . Only the heavy suits can truly compete .
Assaults , Logi's and of course basic suits find themselves on the lower end of the totem pole and this must be corrected .
The only thing that they truly had going for them was the HP repair and now that's gone , which makes these suits performance far below the rest .. when before it could have been argued that this was the case but at least they had the regenerative HP going for them .
Players can say that they are doing fine but for the most part , this race is in desperate need of some fine tuning .
Everyone doesn't have the skill points to compete and without having a full infantry refund , some who would have used the redistribution of their skill points to make their character better on the battlefield now are at a greater disadvantage because those who were fortunate to have two to three prototype suits replenished their campaign , while those who were in need of a boost remained on the outside looking in .
Please give them back their regenerative HP boost . Gal's are strong enough but their compatriots on the battlefield are lacking and lacking greatly .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Ander Thedas
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
399
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:31:00 -
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Okay, and what's a Mimi?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1359
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:33:00 -
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Minmatar != Mimi
And no innate armor repair rate except for Gallente. The other balancing issues with armor/shield HP can be discussed, but only Gallente get the repair bonuses. That is their thing.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
489
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:35:00 -
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Ander Thedas wrote:Okay, and what's a Mimi? I always call Minmatar's Mimi's .
Use to be one ( Still one in sprit ) and have been doing it since I started to play .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
1037
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:37:00 -
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Soon 11 years in New Eden, being Minmatar myself, I never heard me or anyone else been called Mimi until today, so far we've always been Minnie at the most...
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:39:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ander Thedas wrote:Okay, and what's a Mimi? I always call Minmatar's Mimi's . Use to be one ( Still one in sprit ) and have been doing it since I started to play .
Been a minmatar assault since Feb 2013, I never gave it up...
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
489
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:40:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Minmatar != Mimi
And no innate armor repair rate except for Gallente. The other balancing issues with armor/shield HP can be discussed, but only Gallente get the repair bonuses. That is their thing. That is not a question ... that being " their thing " but Mimi suits needed that boost and it shouldn't have been taken away to give it to a race with the most low slots and the ability to armor tank and rep better than any other , they now have been made stronger with the Mimi's weakened even more than they already were to start out with .
As compatriot's Gal's should have lobbied to have Mimi's keep that regenerative boost but in their own selfishness , they seen an opportunity to become stronger at the expense of their allies .
This is wrong .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
489
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:42:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Soon 11 years in New Eden, being Minmatar myself, I never heard me or anyone else been called Mimi until today, so far we've always been Minnie at the most...
/c O.k. change is good and people and groups have several nic-names .
This is just mine's . Apologizing if I displease .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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lunatis orrak
Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:45:00 -
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Im a "mimi" lol i do not have this problem wrll exept for when im reppin then i get stuck with my pants down and my rep tool in my hand like its my junk but assaualt and scout hel use the speed bro its fast the point is not to get hit or hit them more before they hit you
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!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
489
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:46:00 -
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lunatis orrak wrote:Im a "mimi" lol i do not have this problem wrll exept for when im reppin then i get stuck with my pants down and my rep tool in my hand like its my junk but assaualt and scout hel use the speed bro its fast the point is not to get hit or hit them more before they hit you True but I bet you could use that 1HP regen couldn't you .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
511
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:46:00 -
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the matari suits just need about 10% base shield and armour added. yeah sure they have good movement speed but speed tanks simply don't work in DUST as they do in EVE so its pretty redundant and by adding plates to a matari sentinel to get anywhere near close to the other races you only end up with 0.3m/s sprint/movement faster at most. i have my skinweave militia amarr heavy and its base stats are higher than my matari sentinel
Rolling with the punches
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
715
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:47:00 -
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Higher recharge rate, or lower delay would seem better in my opinion.
Having specced only Minmatar suits with the arrival of 1.8 (Lvl 5 Scout and Logi, Lvl 3 Sentinel and Commando, Lvl 1 Assault), I have almost 0 use for Armor repair. My scouts have none, my Logi has one cause I have the slot, and 1/s would make no difference to my Heavy builds. The only one it would help would be the Assault.
Again, give me a higher recharge rate than the Caldari, or having less of a delay (depleted and regular, or just regular) would be beautiful in my opinion. But, to each his/her own.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1361
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:48:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: That is not a question ... that being " their thing " but Mimi suits needed that boost and it shouldn't have been taken away to give it to a race with the most low slots and the ability to armor tank and rep better than any other , they now have been made stronger with the Mimi's weakened even more than they already were to start out with .
As compatriot's Gal's should have lobbied to have Mimi's keep that regenerative boost but in their own selfishness , they seen an opportunity to become stronger at the expense of their allies.
Balancing the dropsuits will require tweaking each race's tanking styles. Gallente get repairer bonuses, Amarr stack layer-upon-layer of armor, Caldari put up thick shielding, and Minmatar use speed/agility with some moderate shielding.
Should Amarr get shielding bonuses? No. Should Caldari get innate armor repairing? No. Should Gallente get higher movement/sprint/turn speeds? No.
Minmatar should not ever, and should not have never had, innate armor repair bonuses.
What should Minmatar get? A bump to movement speed and perhaps shield recharge rates. Maybe a small bump to stamina regeneration. How about something a little off the wall, like higher/longer jump distances for all Minmatar dropsuits.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
361
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:50:00 -
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lunatis orrak wrote:Im a "mimi" lol i do not have this problem wrll exept for when im reppin then i get stuck with my pants down and my rep tool in my hand like its my junk but assaualt and scout hel use the speed bro its fast the point is not to get hit or hit them more before they hit you
Try repping a heavy with a core focused rep tool. You don't have much room to maneuver, you just gotta try and bunny hop behind the heavy... they need a small rep per second
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
489
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:55:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: That is not a question ... that being " their thing " but Mimi suits needed that boost and it shouldn't have been taken away to give it to a race with the most low slots and the ability to armor tank and rep better than any other , they now have been made stronger with the Mimi's weakened even more than they already were to start out with .
As compatriot's Gal's should have lobbied to have Mimi's keep that regenerative boost but in their own selfishness , they seen an opportunity to become stronger at the expense of their allies.
Balancing the dropsuits will require tweaking each race's tanking styles. Gallente get repairer bonuses, Amarr stack layer-upon-layer of armor, Caldari put up thick shielding, and Minmatar use speed/agility with some moderate shielding. Should Amarr get shielding bonuses? No. Should Caldari get innate armor repairing? No. Should Gallente get higher movement/sprint/turn speeds? No. Minmatar should not ever, and should not have never had, innate armor repair bonuses. What should Minmatar get? A bump to movement speed and perhaps shield recharge rates. Maybe a small bump to stamina regeneration. How about something a little off the wall, like higher/longer jump distances for all Minmatar dropsuits. A reduction to falling damage; which allows them to more quickly get to ground levels without suffering damage. When/if jump jets get introduced have Minmatar get innate bonuses with them. Now that's what I'm talking about .
Something because right now they are lacking . Caldari's putting up thick shielding ... now that's a laugh . Shields in this game need some fine tuning .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
489
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:57:00 -
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Now that's what I'm getting at . Some ideal's to help them become better .
Anything is better than where they are at the moment .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1361
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:57:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Now that's what I'm talking about . Something because right now they are lacking . Caldari's putting up thick shielding ... now that's a laugh . Shields in this game need some fine tuning .
At least in Eve Online, the Caldari fit powerful shield tanks that can sustain truly impressive amounts of punishment. In Dust... not so much.
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VikingCheech iBUN
Third Rock From The Sun
36
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:45:00 -
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+1 Min Assaults need either hp buff or their passive armour reps back. they are the weakest suit on the field by far. |
Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
659
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:53:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Now since Mimi suits are by far the weakest of all , with the exception of heavy suits ... it has dawned to me that they should have the 1HP armor repair replaced back into the fold for Mimi's .
To give it to the race that armor tanks , has the greatest ability to armor rep and have max armor seems kind of like an overkill . Series Gal suits in the five hundreds in armor while Mimi suits lack in every department with the exception of speed .
Weak shields in this game leaves that in want , only two low slots , for the most part leaves this race in a most unfortunate disposition . Only the heavy suits can truly compete .
Assaults , Logi's and of course basic suits find themselves on the lower end of the totem pole and this must be corrected .
The only thing that they truly had going for them was the HP repair and now that's gone , which makes these suits performance far below the rest .. when before it could have been argued that this was the case but at least they had the regenerative HP going for them .
Players can say that they are doing fine but for the most part , this race is in desperate need of some fine tuning .
Everyone doesn't have the skill points to compete and without having a full infantry refund , some who would have used the redistribution of their skill points to make their character better on the battlefield now are at a greater disadvantage because those who were fortunate to have two to three prototype suits replenished their campaign , while those who were in need of a boost remained on the outside looking in .
Please give them back their regenerative HP boost . Gal's are strong enough but their compatriots on the battlefield are lacking and lacking greatly . LOL
So what minmatar suit is the weakest again?
Scout: No that is the amarr scout Logi: No, they are all pretty balances Assault: No, caldari is the worst Sentinel: Maybe, the jury is still out on this one Commando: Nope, it is the amarr sentinel and it is not even close.
Things that the matari are the bet at: Sprinting Jumping Strafing Hacking Repping Area Denial assasination DPS (HMG and CR >>>>>>>> everything) Damage profiles Stamina regen (double everyone else??? lol)
Things the matari at bad at: HP (which doesn't matter because slots minimize any starting HP difference)
God I swear minmatards are the biggest whiners in new eden (yes they will always claim they are underpowered in eve too, even when they are obviously OP)
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
492
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:59:00 -
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I am not whining for Minmatar's . Where you say that they are great at is only because of role bonuses , besides speed and hacking but everything else is a non factor without a role bonus and it's mainly because of their heavies .
Jumping ??? Not really .
Not even going to go down the line like you have but your giving logi and heavy role bonuses and that's it .
As a whole , their suits lack a lot .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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lunatis orrak
Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn
2
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:12:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:the matari suits just need about 10% base shield and armour added. yeah sure they have good movement speed but speed tanks simply don't work in DUST as they do in EVE so its pretty redundant and by adding plates to a matari sentinel to get anywhere near close to the other races you only end up with 0.3m/s sprint/movement faster at most. i have my skinweave militia amarr heavy and its base stats are higher than my matari sentinel
You sure have apparently not run into the scout suits rocking as much hp as a logi and move so quick its crazy maybe you should skill up into armor plating and try the reactive (basic armor sucks man)
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lunatis orrak
Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:23:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:lunatis orrak wrote:Im a "mimi" lol i do not have this problem wrll exept for when im reppin then i get stuck with my pants down and my rep tool in my hand like its my junk but assaualt and scout hel use the speed bro its fast the point is not to get hit or hit them more before they hit you Try repping a heavy with a core focused rep tool. You don't have much room to maneuver, you just gotta try and bunny hop behind the heavy... they need a small rep per second
Lol i already do thanks tho i got a 1.13 kd because im good at jump rope. But also im minmitar i get rep bonus distance and bonus rps at full proto reps with a minmatar suit core focused gives 156 rps, 31, above above base for any other race ive not done the math for the distance but ill do t later and post but with the minmatar you might think it harder to stay alive but really when your heavy drops like they usually do once or twice a match i drop a grenade like a smoke bomb and poof me and my magical minmatar vanish lol cuz i mean really who wants to stay aaround when somethings coming that just dropped a heavy with reps onhim
CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE
!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS!
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:30:00 -
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Emperor1349 wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Ander Thedas wrote:Okay, and what's a Mimi? I always call Minmatar's Mimi's . Use to be one ( Still one in sprit ) and have been doing it since I started to play . Been a minmatar assault since Feb 2013, I never gave it up... You had the minmatar assault 3 months before it was released? |
lunatis orrak
Band of The Hawkx Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:44:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:lunatis orrak wrote:Im a "mimi" lol i do not have this problem wrll exept for when im reppin then i get stuck with my pants down and my rep tool in my hand like its my junk but assaualt and scout hel use the speed bro its fast the point is not to get hit or hit them more before they hit you True but I bet you could use that 1HP regen couldn't you .
I could hel ide love it but i do not believe its necessary the minmatar is not helpless without it
CHUBBY CHASER FOR LIFE
!BEWARE MY FAT BULLDOGS!
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1673
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:50:00 -
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Mimi will not catch on.
Minmatar innate rep didn't make sense now is gone. It shouldn't come back
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:55:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote: God I swear minmatards are the biggest whiners in new eden (yes they will always claim they are underpowered in eve too, even when they are obviously OP)
Weren't you the one crying about being worse than the Gallente by 0.01m/s and (at most) 100 eHP?
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1259
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:56:00 -
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Matari suits have the best speed and ridiculous stamina regen (4 seconds or less for every suit). I'd say that's pretty darn useful. |
Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
685
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:21:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Matari suits have the best speed and ridiculous stamina regen (4 seconds or less for every suit). I'd say that's pretty darn useful. Have you tried playing as one?
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
512
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:29:00 -
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lunatis orrak wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:the matari suits just need about 10% base shield and armour added. yeah sure they have good movement speed but speed tanks simply don't work in DUST as they do in EVE so its pretty redundant and by adding plates to a matari sentinel to get anywhere near close to the other races you only end up with 0.3m/s sprint/movement faster at most. i have my skinweave militia amarr heavy and its base stats are higher than my matari sentinel You sure have apparently not run into the scout suits rocking as much hp as a logi and move so quick its crazy maybe you should skill up into armor plating and try the reactive (basic armor sucks man)
you mean i can buy or train things to increase my shield and armour? where does one find these items of magic and wonder?!?!
but your comment is kinda pointless. i said the base shield/armour is more, so skills or not the difference is still the same. matari suits in 1.8 are far too thin on HP. its only a small increase but with the skills trained it would build up and bring them more in line with other suits. personally i'm suprised the large difference in hipoints between the new heavy frames
Rolling with the punches
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NomaDz 2K
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
136
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Posted - 2014.04.02 18:37:00 -
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I agree with anything to give Minmatar a buff
But i think U should suggest this on the "Features and Ideas Discussion" forum, cause in this "General" forum CCP wont make ANY changes.
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CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
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