I might be wrong, but I heard that by EVE lore, shield extenders lead to a higher profile signature, not armor.

Unfortunately, they can also fit a serious tank without a significant loss to their EWAR capability. This leads to less variety in fits and an assault class that has been outclassed.

Armor plates should increase suit signature. You're adding more mass to your suit, it should increase the sig. This makes a player have to decide between increasing HP and maintaining a low signature. Basic plates are made from the cheapest materials and have the highest sig hit, proto are made of cutting edge materials and take the least hit. This also helps balance against the speed penalties for plates. Feroscale are made of super-light materials and incur no penalty at any level. Reactive plates have a built-in repper that generates a constant high noise level.

I might be wrong, but I heard that by EVE lore, shield extenders lead to a higher profile signature, not armor.

Considering this is completely wrong and Scouts HAVE to place a lot of importance in choosing between stacking EWAR modules or stacking tanking modules, I shouldn't really need to address the rest of your post, but because it does things so backwards, I'm going to anyway...


Uhhhh... lolwut?


So you're saying that a suit that's designed for armour tanking and profile signature should LOSE one advantage in order to capitalise on the other? And the suit that's designed for scanning capabilities and shield tanking should give up one of its primary roles if it wants to focus more heavily on the other?

If - and that would be a massive "if" - adding any penalties to these modules was a good idea in the first place, then they should be the exact opposite of what you're proposing FOR THE EXACT REASONS YOU'RE CLAIMING TO BE THINKING OF.



I hope you just typed the whole thing up the wrong way around by mistake or something, because if not... wow.

I understand that this isn't EVE lore, the problem is that CCP produced a sig bonus for the scout that can stack the most plates. If it doesn't cost them sig to brick tank, why wouldn't you do it?

Yes a scout shouldn't be able to stack more armor than an assualt, have a lower sig, be faster, with a smaller hitbox...

Actually, gallente scouts do have to sacrifice 'sig' to armour tank because profile dampeners are low slots, same as armor mods.

In order to still avoid caldari scouts and gallente logis, gallente scouts still have to fit at least one dampener.

I might be wrong, but I heard that by EVE lore, shield extenders lead to a higher profile signature, not armor.

Nerfing armor even more? Yeah, no.

Shield Extenders is what increases your signature. Plates make you slower. This is the way it's in Eve Online.

1 WHOLE LOW SLOT? OH NOES!!! HOW WILL I EVER FIT 4 PLATES NOW!?!?

Well, you could still fit 3 complex plates. 3x 135 = 405hp. That's roughly 1 second of fire from many rifles. OMG so tanked it will never die.

That's over 600 armor on a skilled proto Gal scout, that is also invisible to all EWAR.

Look, my point is that you are trying to balance tanking specifically in regards to scouts, which is the wrong way to do it. You need to be balancing tanking with regards to the entire game, otherwise you'll just continue to be tinkering with symptoms and not causes.

Scout tanking is a symptom of brick tanking being the best thing to do to any suit. The top scouts were doing this way before 1.8 came along but now because there are so many more, suddenly they're a problem! Brick tanking in general needs to be taken down a peg and shields aren't too bad (apart from really being the only worthwhile high slot mod), so it's really a problem with regular armor plating. Reduce armor plate hp to a level where running it instead of ewar or biotics or even reps is not the obvious best choice. That's balance. Not make up some silly class specific penalty to stop one role from having any diversity beyond what you or anyone else thinks should be the only way to fit it.

Look, my point is that you are trying to balance tanking specifically in regards to scouts, which is the wrong way to do it. You need to be balancing tanking with regards to the entire game, otherwise you'll just continue to be tinkering with symptoms and not causes.

Scout tanking is a symptom of brick tanking being the best thing to do to any suit. The top scouts were doing this way before 1.8 came along but now because there are so many more, suddenly they're a problem! Brick tanking in general needs to be taken down a peg and shields aren't too bad (apart from really being the only worthwhile high slot mod), so it's really a problem with regular armor plating. Reduce armor plate hp to a level where running it instead of ewar or biotics or even reps is not the obvious best choice. That's balance. Not make up some silly class specific penalty to stop one role from having any diversity beyond what you or anyone else thinks should be the only way to fit it.