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Django Quik
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:14:00 -
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Knowing anything about the lore of the Eve universe, this entire post is contradictory to the way things work.
Shields are fine. Plates are bad because regular ones add far too much HP. That is all.
Brick tanking is not a scout problem - it is an everyone problem and needs to be solved for the entire game, not just scouts.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:41:00 -
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Outlaw OneZero wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:I might be wrong, but I heard that by EVE lore, shield extenders lead to a higher profile signature, not armor. I understand that this isn't EVE lore, the problem is that CCP produced a sig bonus for the scout that can stack the most plates. If it doesn't cost them sig to brick tank, why wouldn't you do it?
Actually, gallente scouts do have to sacrifice 'sig' to armour tank because profile dampeners are low slots, same as armor mods.
In order to still avoid caldari scouts and gallente logis, gallente scouts still have to fit at least one dampener.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:51:00 -
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Outlaw OneZero wrote:Django Quik wrote:Outlaw OneZero wrote:Henrietta Unknown wrote:I might be wrong, but I heard that by EVE lore, shield extenders lead to a higher profile signature, not armor. I understand that this isn't EVE lore, the problem is that CCP produced a sig bonus for the scout that can stack the most plates. If it doesn't cost them sig to brick tank, why wouldn't you do it? Actually, gallente scouts do have to sacrifice 'sig' to armour tank because profile dampeners are low slots, same as armor mods. In order to still avoid caldari scouts and gallente logis, gallente scouts still have to fit at least one dampener. 1 WHOLE LOW SLOT? OH NOES!!! HOW WILL I EVER FIT 4 PLATES NOW!?!?
Well, you could still fit 3 complex plates. 3x 135 = 405hp. That's roughly 1 second of fire from many rifles. OMG so tanked it will never die.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:57:00 -
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Look, my point is that you are trying to balance tanking specifically in regards to scouts, which is the wrong way to do it. You need to be balancing tanking with regards to the entire game, otherwise you'll just continue to be tinkering with symptoms and not causes.
Scout tanking is a symptom of brick tanking being the best thing to do to any suit. The top scouts were doing this way before 1.8 came along but now because there are so many more, suddenly they're a problem! Brick tanking in general needs to be taken down a peg and shields aren't too bad (apart from really being the only worthwhile high slot mod), so it's really a problem with regular armor plating. Reduce armor plate hp to a level where running it instead of ewar or biotics or even reps is not the obvious best choice. That's balance. Not make up some silly class specific penalty to stop one role from having any diversity beyond what you or anyone else thinks should be the only way to fit it.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:58:00 -
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Outlaw OneZero wrote:Django Quik wrote:
Well, you could still fit 3 complex plates. 3x 135 = 405hp. That's roughly 1 second of fire from many rifles. OMG so tanked it will never die.
That's over 600 armor on a skilled proto Gal scout, that is also invisible to all EWAR.
Just under 600 armor actually but nonetheless 1.5 seconds of fire. Big woop.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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