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![Sir Dukey Sir Dukey](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:16:00 -
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If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up. |
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:17:00 -
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inb4you'rean00b
B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:18:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up. No the hmg needs a big nerf
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:20:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up. No the hmg needs a big nerf
Big? I'm starting to dislike your opinion there. Any more than 10% is pushing it.
B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
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![Jacques Cayton II Jacques Cayton II](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:22:00 -
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Min and Caldari Heavies get nerfed = death to shielded heavies
We fight for the future of the State not our
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![Jade Dragonis Jade Dragonis](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
343
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:22:00 -
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Strange, I've killed Gal heavies in proto suits with my Gal Assault suit with my duvolle with out reloading.....
No idea why your personally having this problem.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:25:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote: Min and Caldari Heavies get nerfed = death to shielded heavies
Yet I brought this up and you shouted garbage at me for being stupid. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
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![Pokey Dravon Pokey Dravon](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:26:00 -
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Remember than some Sentinels will resist 10-15% of the damage your AR is doing, depending on the race of the suit.
Pokey Dravon for CPM1
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Gotmy Tightpantson
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:30:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up.
Im calling BS on that one. I got killed by a freakin militia ar last night in my advanced heavey with advanced armor. Cut through it like buttah! And no he wasnt shooting me in the back.
Are you drinking my saki kimosabe?!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:31:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Remember than some Sentinels will resist 10-15% of the damage your AR is doing, depending on the race of the suit. Ironicly a lvl 5 cal sent goes down faster than a mlt amarr heavy from an ar...
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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:32:00 -
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Gotmy Tightpantson wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up. Im calling BS on that one. I got killed by a freakin militia ar last night in my advanced heavey with advanced armor. Cut through it like buttah! And no he wasnt shooting me in the back.
Maybe OP has a crappy gun game and blames the weapon and not the user. lol
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Egonz4
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:32:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up. No it doesn't! Dust is a tactical game...change your fit!!!
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Leonid Tybalt
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:32:00 -
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In short: no they do not.
They are called "heavies" for a reason. |
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neausea 1987
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:34:00 -
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1. no 2. i can kill a heavy with little to moderate trouble it's not that hard 3. no
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Kara Anschel
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:35:00 -
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Duvolle is what 34 damage per shot, with a 60 round mag? That's straight 2046 damage per mag without takes any + / - .
Maxed Proto Gallente sentinel gets to about 1550 hp, and for ***** and giggles lets say it's all armor so the duvolle is at -10% per shot. This would bring the max damage per clip to 1,841. Thats still 291 damage in overkill assuming the ENTIRE health is armor. I did this mainly because I'm too lazy to do the real math. Anywhos, in a single clip you have over 300 damage in overkill, which actually using the actual modifiers would leave 10 ish bullets in your mag, so 1/6 left over.
This leads me to believe you need to learn to aim better ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:38:00 -
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ya and it takes two or three shotgun shots to kill us
Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:39:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up.
So you are going 1 on 1 against a heavy and really expect to win? Go play COD |
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:39:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:inb4you'rean00b
Edit: You need to realize the AR is a hybrid blaster which does +10% to shields and -10% to armor without proficiency. Which should be more apparent than ever to people who don't come on the Dust website because of the proficiency change to shield or armor based.
-.- Do you think I'm stupid? I have been here since closed beta..... I think I know what I'm doing. Stop trying to be a smartass on the forums. Anyway, 1.5 clips to take down a heavy is ridiculous... It takes me 50 seconds to kill him but him only .25 to kill me? That totally seems fair. HMG also needs a nerf. |
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Onsencaliss
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:39:00 -
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It all depend on the number of bullet that actually hit...![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
50% of yours seems to have miss that huge butt |
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:40:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Remember than some Sentinels will resist 10-15% of the damage your AR is doing, depending on the race of the suit.
it was gallante... |
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:41:00 -
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I mean it might take 1.5 Clips if you're aim isn't great...
Thunderdome is postponed until corp battles return please stop sending mails to me. QQ at CCP, not at me.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:41:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up.
Heavies don't need a nerf, your aim needs a buff.
CCP, buff this guy's aim! Put that aim assist back up there so he can kill things!
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:42:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Remember than some Sentinels will resist 10-15% of the damage your AR is doing, depending on the race of the suit. Ironicly a lvl 5 cal sent goes down faster than a mlt amarr heavy from an ar...
Well there is a rather significant difference in Effective HP. I did quite a few calculations for the effective HP of each Sentinel for each damage type. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137203
While the Amarr and Caldari are actually within 2EHP of each other for Blasters, keep in mind those calculations do not include the new proficiency bonus which only affects one damage over the other. Because of this the Amarr which has a lot more armor than shields will take less damage from AR Proficiency (which boosts shield damage) whereas the Shield-heavy Caldari will be affected by AR Proficiency greatly.
That being said it makes sense that the Caldari Sentinel go down faster than an Amarr.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:42:00 -
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shotguns already ruin a heavy's day, HP is fine where it is
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Sir Dukey
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:42:00 -
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martinofski wrote:It all depend on the number of bullet that actually hit... ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) 50% of yours seems to have miss that huge butt
im pretty sure I hit at least 70% of the bullets. The dude was standing still... |
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:43:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:If it takes a 1.5 clips from a proto duvolle proficiency 4 to kill a ADV heavy. That is fked up. Heavies don't need a nerf, your aim needs a buff. CCP, buff this guy's aim! Put that aim assist back up there so he can kill things!
mwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:44:00 -
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I don't have any problems killing them, as long as I don't blindly rush them.
They're a *****, and I do mean a *****, but I can deal with them. They're doing their role.
Oh and I'm doing it in assault suits, in case you're wondering.
My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone.
If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:45:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Remember than some Sentinels will resist 10-15% of the damage your AR is doing, depending on the race of the suit. it was gallante...
Well this is pretty easy to figure out then. I dont have the information on me right now, so can someone tell me what the DPS of a Proto AR is (Before proficiency calcs, I just want the base damage and fire rate)
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:48:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote: Min and Caldari Heavies get nerfed = death to shielded heavies They are already dead and patheticly weak even at lvl 5
Closed beta vet
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.31 20:49:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Remember than some Sentinels will resist 10-15% of the damage your AR is doing, depending on the race of the suit. Ironicly a lvl 5 cal sent goes down faster than a mlt amarr heavy from an ar... Well there is a rather significant difference in Effective HP. I did quite a few calculations for the effective HP of each Sentinel for each damage type. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=137203While the Amarr and Caldari are actually within 2EHP of each other for Blasters, keep in mind those calculations do not include the new proficiency bonus which only affects one damage over the other. Because of this the Amarr which has a lot more armor than shields will take less damage from AR Proficiency (which boosts shield damage) whereas the Shield-heavy Caldari will be affected by AR Proficiency greatly. That being said it makes sense that the Caldari Sentinel go down faster than an Amarr. At lvl 5 the cal heavy goes down faster than mlt heavy, totaly unfair
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