With the cloak and the new ttk the scouts took the role of the assaults. the medium dropsuits with this patch are almost useless. Changing the way the cloak works is important to bring the scouts to their real position and to make them better assaults than the assaults.

the game needs all the roles to blayed best with its class.
with 1.8 logis are not assaults anymore like before but now are the scouts.

With the cloak and the new ttk the scouts took the role of the assaults. the medium dropsuits with this patch are almost useless. Changing the way the cloak works is important to bring the scouts to their real position and to make them better assaults than the assaults.

the game needs all the roles to blayed best with its class.
with 1.8 logis are not assaults anymore like before but now are the scouts.

Cloak is a must and should not be removed. It need to be repaired, not Nerf.

What is cloak for? What is scout for?
Scout is to sneak behind enemy lines and to: drop uplinks, scan the enemies, hack objectives fast.

Cloak need charge up time to start and at least 2 sec delay before changing to weapon, means cloke down and stuck for two sec before using the weapon. Means no cloaked scouts shoot unseen.
Cloak must be used with other equipment without drop down the cloak field. Like that cloaked scouts will drop uplinks, will hack objectives, will drop proxies and so on unseen and behind enemies lines. But will not be able to shoot. They to be stuck for 2 sec uncooked after switch to weapon from cloaked. This will stop invisible killers and will bring scouts to their role.

Also need some

Cloaks are fine. Only thing that would make it better is that if getting hurt from weapon damage would make you decloak.

If you get hurt from fall damage, you would shimmer violently for like a second and then go back to normal.

Other than that, they're fine in my opinion (other than the fact that slight movement results in a full shimmer but whatever).

Decloaking from damage is bad. Decloaking from fluxes is good.

Decloaking from damage is bad. Decloaking from fluxes is good.

what's the difference?

Cloaks are fine. Only thing that would make it better is that if getting hurt from weapon damage would make you decloak.

If you get hurt from fall damage, you would shimmer violently for like a second and then go back to normal.

Other than that, they're fine in my opinion (other than the fact that slight movement results in a full shimmer but whatever).

Decloaking from damage is bad. Decloaking from fluxes is good.

The fact that you think cloaks are "fine" despite the fireing a OHK weapon like a shotgun while still being cloaked is BROKEN.

And the fact that YOU think its ok tells me the "type" of player that you are.

What do you call a player that defends a broken weapon or mechanic?
Yeah.

Firing a Shotgun while cloaked requires you to get into Shotgun range without the other person seeing you. When cloaked players are so clearly visible while moving, this means you only used the cloak as a dampener, or "your" victim was actually only a victim of their own lack of attention.

Yes because nobody ever got a kill with shotgun before cloaks

Although cloak to shotgun makes it a lot less easier, the fact somebody can camp a console completely invisible and 1 shot a person who runs down to hack is completely insane. Requires no skill, is completely undefeatable and is just clearly broken.

Cloak is a must and should not be removed. It need to be repaired, not Nerf.

What is cloak for? What is scout for?
Scout is to sneak behind enemy lines and to: drop uplinks, scan the enemies, hack objectives fast.

Cloak need charge up time to start and at least 2 sec delay before changing to weapon, means cloke down and stuck for two sec before using the weapon. Means no cloaked scouts shoot unseen.
Cloak must be used with other equipment without drop down the cloak field. Like that cloaked scouts will drop uplinks, will hack objectives, will drop proxies and so on unseen and behind enemies lines. But will not be able to shoot. They to be stuck for 2 sec uncooked after switch to weapon from cloaked. This will stop invisible killers and will bring scouts to their role.

Also need some

The only thing you said that I would agree with is some kind of time duration you'd not be able to fire your weapon after uncloaking. As in Eve there is a 10-15 second delay from when you uncloak to when you can use your weapon. In a game like Dust 10-15 seconds would be far too long, but you get the gist of what I'm saying.

Scout suit + cloak + shotgun is far too easy mode at the moment. Its the new FOTM. We all know it, most of us anticipated it.

Honestly giving people a few more weeks to adapt before changing things would be a better idea though.

1. Rebalance medium suits. At the moment, Logis are both the equipment users AND the adaptable combat suits. Logis should be the equipment users and Assaults should be the adaptable combat suits. Reduce slots on Logis and add them to Assaults, but give Logis a buff to HP to help offset the loss of adaptability. Add PG and CPU so that Assaults can be fitted effectively, because right now, they struggle with that more often than they should.

2. Teach the people complaining about cloaks to actually use their eyes. You can see cloaked enemies if you know what to look for. If you're alert and competent, you're only likely to miss them in situations where you wouldn't see a good Scout anyway.

There was never any problem with Scouts, but there is a problem with Medium suits, and that problem is primarily that Assaults are underpowered.

I, a true logi player, think this is how it should have been from the beginning, making the logi a support that is able to take some hits and assault the true versatile main combat suit. I have suggested this a few times but it seems no one cares about assaults at all.

this is not that easy as you make it sound.

first on some areas the ambient color and light level makes it very hard to notice.
and second you can get off ~3 shotgun shots off during the "decloak".

but there is a problem now. before scouts were not able to touch the domain of the assault because the assault could simply get more ehp. I dont think that scouts were supposed to have that much health.