DUST Search - how to repare cloak field

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Joel II X wrote:

Cloaks are fine. Only thing that would make it better is that if getting hurt from weapon damage would make you decloak.

If you get hurt from fall damage, you would shimmer violently for like a second and then go back to normal.

Other than that, they're fine in my opinion (other than the fact that slight movement results in a full shimmer but whatever).

Agreed , also the fact that since flux grenades are suppose to disrupt electrical devices a flux should do the same to the cloak .

If not cause a person to de-cloak , it should at least cause a rapid use of cloaking power ... which in case , causes the timer to speed up and cause the user to de-cloak sooner than normal ... not an immediate de-cloak but causing the circle timer to move faster than normal which causes the user to have to de-cloak sooner .

Either that or an immediate de-cloak and they should take on damage without resistance while taking fire . The cloak should not act as to make the user impervious to weapons fire , since it doesn't make them invulnerable and neither should it .

It's not a shield hardener .

It's time that when new content is introduced that these issues are discussed before time so as not to have some in the community to misuse or corrupt these newly developed tools . This might also cut down on possible bugs and hot-fix times where that energy could be used to solve existing issues . It's nice to have DEV's make post before patch releases but more time is needed to discuss matters that plague the game once the patch is released . I believe more feedback is needed , along with more time to discuss new material and content ... so that these issues can be put to rest instead of being re-occurring problems . This might lead to much more smoother releases with less issues .

Some of these matters should be no brainers and go along with existing content like Flux grenades and their effect on cloaked adversaries , Remote Explosives being used like grenades ... sometimes sliding on surfaces and sometime sticking and leaving no clear user defining implementation of this tool . Does it stick and if so how is it able to slide on certain surfaces ???

We as the members of the community need to speak about these things and not just have our thoughts placed as numerous ideals on a forum page , to not even be considered or even thought about . It's clear in some cases that the powers that be already have an ideal of what they are going to do but let the community voice their views , only to do what they have planned to begin with .. taking no cue's from the suggestions and questions put in place by the community , only to re-visit what the community said and to implement some of the said suggestions because of unseen issues by them but seen by the community .


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Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2085	Posted - 2014.03.30 17:33:00 - [1] - Quote Cloaks are fine. Only thing that would make it better is that if getting hurt from weapon damage would make you decloak. If you get hurt from fall damage, you would shimmer violently for like a second and then go back to normal. Other than that, they're fine in my opinion (other than the fact that slight movement results in a full shimmer but whatever).
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2098	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:02:00 - [2] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Joel II X wrote: Cloaks are fine. Only thing that would make it better is that if getting hurt from weapon damage would make you decloak. If you get hurt from fall damage, you would shimmer violently for like a second and then go back to normal. Other than that, they're fine in my opinion (other than the fact that slight movement results in a full shimmer but whatever). The fact that you think cloaks are "fine" despite the fireing a OHK weapon like a shotgun while still being cloaked is BROKEN. And the fact that YOU think its ok tells me the "type" of player that you are. What do you call a player that defends a broken weapon or mechanic? Yeah. Ummmm, yes I used cloaks a lot the first day of the patch but not anymore. Unlike you, I can actually use my eyes shocking, I know. Did you know you're actually able to see cloaks with your eyes? Even if they sit still? Whoa! Also, I like my shotgun. Don't talk about my shotgun! When you switch to a weapon, you decloak and emit a loud noise. I'm not sure how fast the enemy is able to see you in the decloak animation, but the sound is still there. Plus, if he shot you in the back, chances are you would've died with or without the use of a cloak. If he ran up to you from the front with the cloak and you didn't see him, that's completely your fault. What type of player am I? Please enlighten me since you obviously know so much more than me when it comes to game mechanics, Mr. Game Developer.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2098	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:06:00 - [3] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Joel II X wrote: Cloaks are fine. Only thing that would make it better is that if getting hurt from weapon damage would make you decloak. If you get hurt from fall damage, you would shimmer violently for like a second and then go back to normal. Other than that, they're fine in my opinion (other than the fact that slight movement results in a full shimmer but whatever). Agreed , also the fact that since flux grenades are suppose to disrupt electrical devices a flux should do the same to the cloak . If not cause a person to de-cloak , it should at least cause a rapid use of cloaking power ... which in case , causes the timer to speed up and cause the user to de-cloak sooner than normal ... not an immediate de-cloak but causing the circle timer to move faster than normal which causes the user to have to de-cloak sooner . Either that or an immediate de-cloak and they should take on damage without resistance while taking fire . The cloak should not act as to make the user impervious to weapons fire , since it doesn't make them invulnerable and neither should it . It's not a shield hardener . It's time that when new content is introduced that these issues are discussed before time so as not to have some in the community to misuse or corrupt these newly developed tools . This might also cut down on possible bugs and hot-fix times where that energy could be used to solve existing issues . It's nice to have DEV's make post before patch releases but more time is needed to discuss matters that plague the game once the patch is released . I believe more feedback is needed , along with more time to discuss new material and content ... so that these issues can be put to rest instead of being re-occurring problems . This might lead to much more smoother releases with less issues . Some of these matters should be no brainers and go along with existing content like Flux grenades and their effect on cloaked adversaries , Remote Explosives being used like grenades ... sometimes sliding on surfaces and sometime sticking and leaving no clear user defining implementation of this tool . Does it stick and if so how is it able to slide on certain surfaces ??? We as the members of the community need to speak about these things and not just have our thoughts placed as numerous ideals on a forum page , to not even be considered or even thought about . It's clear in some cases that the powers that be already have an ideal of what they are going to do but let the community voice their views , only to do what they have planned to begin with .. taking no cue's from the suggestions and questions put in place by the community , only to re-visit what the community said and to implement some of the said suggestions because of unseen issues by them but seen by the community . I used to support the flux idea, but that would be terrible against shields scouts while armor scouts have less of a penalty because of the HP set up. What if fluxes only decloaked and set the bar at 0, but did no damage to the HP if the user is cloaked? This way, both shield and armor tankers have equal chances of surviving.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2100	Posted - 2014.03.31 10:54:00 - [4] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Joel II X wrote: When you switch to a weapon, you decloak and emit a loud noise. I'm not sure how fast the enemy is able to see you in the decloak animation, but the sound is still there. To be fair, while I'm told it's quite a loud noise for the user, it's actually fairly subtle for people witnessing the cloaked players. It's not a loud noise to the person getting shot. That's one thing I think needs a slight (ONLY SLIGHT) tweak. And the decloak animation takes long enough for someone fast to get 2 Shotgun rounds onto a target, but as you said, if you got that close without them seeing you, either you wouldn't have been seen without the cloak, or they weren't paying attention. Wasn't aware of the sound from the other point of view. I assumed it was loud because when I decloaked, some guy turned around and started spewing hot plasma. +1 for the enlightenment.