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Kain Spero wrote:

Dr PepperPoP wrote:

Dust User wrote:

Kain Spero wrote:

Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC.

Dear Mr. Spero,

As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this:

Quote:

I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient.

So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response.

His statements don't contradict.

In his first comment, he's merely pointing out that a corp is in there rights to summon a defense when hit from a possibly hostile force from outside.

The second is him stating the actual process of making mail sending a rule is un-needed, this does not go on to say that outside powers can just pounce whenever and expect a PFC force for them. A certain level of communication is required. But it's not mandatory, just don't expect the results your seeking without it.

If there's any problem here at all - it would be that BOTH parties failed to set this up as a proper PFC match, one side seeing the other as hostile. TPF really should of sent a mail themselves inquiring before jumping the gun to call NF.

But that's just my opinion.

Pretty much sums it up.

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Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 934	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:05:00 - [121] - Quote Fire2MyBlunt wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Poncho Polous wrote: Nothing wrong with a bit of competition :P How many skill points do you need before you can unlock "dial 9-1-1 proficiency 5"? Take the word "competition" out of your vocabulary, it doesn't belong and sounds weird. You need profiency V in grammar Bro Oh, the irony! His post is grammatically correct, and neither of your two are. Keep smoking, brother!
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1606	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:33:00 - [122] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: The same core group of players yet again reap all the benefits of PC. NF gets paid. Kane Spero Gets paid. The PFC puppets yet again sit on the sideline as someone else gains more experience, has all the fun and gets all the salvage and ISK. I see this was the first battle and the attack came via clone pack yet the district owner didn't fight the fight? My guess is they were forced to have Kane Spero buddies fight the battle since it was not a "scheduled" PC. If not then I will change their title to Brainwashed PFC Puppets... BPP Maybe if you guys are rich enough in real life you can hire someone to pick up your controller and play your PS3 for you. That is what your doing in-game so why not just sit back with some snacks and tell them how to build your suits and then watch them play pub matches for you too. The thought has crossed my mind... CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
Timbo101 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:09:00 - [123] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: You need NF to beat KEQ? I feel bad... I mean KEQ this is a huge compliment... If tht was a compliment then you have a weird way of giving it out. But if not, ** you killar. you and your and shotty *** corp. you are ducking bad at this game and still manage to talk . Stop sucking very forum warriors an try to get better. But in the mean time you, and your corp Also ** you for making me type this kn my phone hammered
Scooberz KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:22:00 - [124] - Quote Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 502	Posted - 2014.03.28 00:41:00 - [125] - Quote Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Shush you, it's getting good. Grabs carmel popcorn
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:01:00 - [126] - Quote Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 503	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:06:00 - [127] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread. You could use some yourself, all post no action.
Alaska Kilgannon The Phoenix Federation 10	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:35:00 - [128] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaska Kilgannon wrote: I cant speak for the leadership of my corp on why we wouldn't use more of our own in this situation, but I do know we have plenty of guys to field an A team. Thats no BS. Nothing against you, I was just commenting on how FA is the best team they could practice against if they wanted to fight the best. No offense taken. I know FA is darn good and hopefully we can coordinate some friendly matches to test ourselves at some point. Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
Scooberz KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:36:00 - [129] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Shush you, it's getting good. Grabs carmel popcorn Ok. Fine. But will you at least share the popcorn? I'll bring beverages.
Kain Spero Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3116	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:39:00 - [130] - Quote Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news

Charlie Barkin KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 23	Posted - 2014.03.28 02:08:00 - [131] - Quote I'd like to point out that I suck at this game and am no longer the Internal Error killing God I used to be. Anyway, all this proves is that a superpower exists in Dust and everyone is a renter to them except ROFL. When I was good enough for PC I generally fought the usual same 50 or so people. Something is wrong with Dust anyway. It doesn't line up with EVE. In EVE you can have a super elite player in a 100M ISK T2 cruiser (I think my pricing is off but I haven't played in a while and too lazy to check EVE Central) get completely demolished by 100 1M ISK frigates. ISK wise it is the same but you can use the ISK to support a war of attrition. Dust doesn't allow that as far as I know. One of the major failures of ROFL IMO was the fact we started Dust out with the organization of EVE like was being sold by CCP. And well everyone knows how crap that turned out. So while we still have our organization (I mean we haven't reformed/rebranded) the game of Dust doesn't allow us to use that capacity. EVE side we were demolishing people and it was painful for pilots to not really be able to translate that success to the ground as promised by CCP. We ravaged Unclaimed. causing them to fall apart partially due to us. The Goon/Test war didn't help them either. Keep in mind these are my takes on the whole ordeal. I was one of those pilots who hated how crappy the links between the two games were. I wanted more than the sugar coated junk of Shiny Orbital Syndrome. I'd still be a pilot if not for soaring PLEX prices and some other poor events too. I don't blame the doughnut for the current POS state Dust is in. I actually welcome it. Mostly because it is bad for business for CCP as a selling point to their game and should spur them to make changes faster so the game actually improves.
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 428	Posted - 2014.03.28 05:11:00 - [132] - Quote I once stabbed a man with a burning candle. I know you are but what am i?
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 224	Posted - 2014.03.28 06:48:00 - [133] - Quote Fire2MyBlunt wrote: Let's have fun with this PHX vs KEQ hatred thing. . Like dust user told me , This is the type of ** we play Dust for. See you soon. Dude look how good this post is working LOL at anyone in here that is butthurt for real. Fire and i know what we talked about in the meeting lol nothing ever changed from that. Fights are much more fun when there is a little drama behind it. Are guys new 2 days ahead of time that you would use ringers on lol PFC. The attack was to see if you would show up and defend and for the life of me i don't know why you would not at least try on a cargo hub that what this post is about its a tactic we used to use with DDB because dam was it hard to get them to show up and fight without 15 AE. Now if it took a little ** talking to get a fight out of your guys then so be it. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
kayn TARON KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:02:00 - [134] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Poncho Polous wrote: Nothing wrong with a bit of competition :P How many skill points do you need before you can unlock "dial 9-1-1 proficiency 5"? Take the word "competition" out of your vocabulary, it doesn't belong and sounds weird. Don't usually post a lot but this gave me a good laugh thanks ER :) and long time no see bud. Dust is marketed as an FPS/MMO. Can you name me one MMO that does not have a functional online friends list or PVE? lol
kayn TARON KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2014.03.28 15:13:00 - [135] - Quote Oh Might I add which is hilarious that while Fighting these so called super ringers they spent more time running from my tank than fighting :p Hell at least Phoenix has the balls to fight and die and not run away scared every time a tank gets within 100 meters of it lol. (This is all pertaining to tank on tank battles not against their infantry) Their tankers are just bad save for one. Perhaps you all should spend some of that massive isk and get other tankers and drop ship pilots to train you. Or better yet send them to PFC for practice cause they need it. On a side note did you not like it when my ADS keep blowing you to holy hell when ever you even had the thought of going somewhere high? lol Dust is marketed as an FPS/MMO. Can you name me one MMO that does not have a functional online friends list or PVE? lol
LionTurtle91 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 115	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:46:00 - [136] - Quote Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! =ƒæë=ƒæî
Kain Spero Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3117	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:48:00 - [137] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I once stabbed a man with a burning candle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHpMJJP7v_s Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:54:00 - [138] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! Finally, a real war room post. +1
Timbo101 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 136	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:56:00 - [139] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! Finally, a real war room post. +1 Hey what about mine!?
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2014.03.28 16:58:00 - [140] - Quote Timbo101 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! Finally, a real war room post. +1 Hey what about mine!? You were drunk. Lol

Timbo101 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 138	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:07:00 - [141] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Timbo101 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! Finally, a real war room post. +1 Hey what about mine!? You were drunk. Lol Ok fair. Still meant it though.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 510	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:17:00 - [142] - Quote Timbo101 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Timbo101 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! Finally, a real war room post. +1 Hey what about mine!? You were drunk. Lol Ok fair. Still meant it though. There ya go And another for being late.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 160	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:26:00 - [143] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Dear Mr. Spero, As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this: Quote: I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient. So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response.
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 511	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:37:00 - [144] - Quote Dust User wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Dear Mr. Spero, As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this: Quote: I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient. So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response. His statements don't contradict. In his first comment, he's merely pointing out that a corp is in there rights to summon a defense when hit from a possibly hostile force from outside. The second is him stating the actual process of making mail sending a rule is un-needed, this does not go on to say that outside powers can just pounce whenever and expect a PFC force for them. A certain level of communication is required. But it's not mandatory, just don't expect the results your seeking without it. If there's any problem here at all - it would be that BOTH parties failed to set this up as a proper PFC match, one side seeing the other as hostile. TPF really should of sent a mail themselves inquiring before jumping the gun to call NF. But that's just my opinion.
Kain Spero Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3117	Posted - 2014.03.28 17:40:00 - [145] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Dust User wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Dear Mr. Spero, As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this: Quote: I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient. So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response. His statements don't contradict. In his first comment, he's merely pointing out that a corp is in there rights to summon a defense when hit from a possibly hostile force from outside. The second is him stating the actual process of making mail sending a rule is un-needed, this does not go on to say that outside powers can just pounce whenever and expect a PFC force for them. A certain level of communication is required. But it's not mandatory, just don't expect the results your seeking without it. If there's any problem here at all - it would be that BOTH parties failed to set this up as a proper PFC match, one side seeing the other as hostile. TPF really should of sent a mail themselves inquiring before jumping the gun to call NF. But that's just my opinion. Pretty much sums it up. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 374	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:51:00 - [146] - Quote LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! You suck more! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 374	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:53:00 - [147] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Timbo101 wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: LionTurtle91 wrote: Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!! Finally, a real war room post. +1 Hey what about mine!? You were drunk. Lol And your point? Drunk Timbo is best Timbo! The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<--
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 161	Posted - 2014.03.28 18:59:00 - [148] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: Dust User wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Dear Mr. Spero, As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this: Quote: I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient. So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response. His statements don't contradict. In his first comment, he's merely pointing out that a corp is in there rights to summon a defense when hit from a possibly hostile force from outside. The second is him stating the actual process of making mail sending a rule is un-needed, this does not go on to say that outside powers can just pounce whenever and expect a PFC force for them. A certain level of communication is required. But it's not mandatory, just don't expect the results your seeking without it. If there's any problem here at all - it would be that BOTH parties failed to set this up as a proper PFC match, one side seeing the other as hostile. TPF really should of sent a mail themselves inquiring before jumping the gun to call NF. But that's just my opinion. Pretty much sums it up. you guys are good spin-doctors, i'll give you that. had fun in last nights battles and we'll meet again soon, but until then.... o7
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1280	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:24:00 - [149] - Quote Think what you posted was Kane referring to "rules" regarding PFC on PFC action... not outside corps trying to "penetrate" PFC corps.
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 74	Posted - 2014.03.28 19:51:00 - [150] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Dust User wrote: Kain Spero wrote: Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Dear Mr. Spero, As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this: Quote: I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient. So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response. His statements don't contradict. In his first comment, he's merely pointing out that a corp is in there rights to summon a defense when hit from a possibly hostile force from outside. The second is him stating the actual process of making mail sending a rule is un-needed, this does not go on to say that outside powers can just pounce whenever and expect a PFC force for them. A certain level of communication is required. But it's not mandatory, just don't expect the results your seeking without it. If there's any problem here at all - it would be that BOTH parties failed to set this up as a proper PFC match, one side seeing the other as hostile. TPF really should of sent a mail themselves inquiring before jumping the gun to call NF. But that's just my opinion. There was no need to send a mail, as we were on comms together in a chat. In this chat it was said that because we placed an attack on a district belonging to ACME, an alliance member of theirs, they would respond by attacking any district we have and had no care for PFC rules, saying they were perfectly willing to violate them (regardless of any issues that might bring up for other alliance corps of theirs on PFC, that was brought up as an issue), but saying we could wait and see whether they would attack with intentions to flip or not once the battle started, giving us the reason that if they intended to flip it they didn't want us to know ahead of time. We asked them politely to be a little more mature and if they wanted to set up a training battle they were free to set that up with us, but we were not willing to continue the conversation under the circumstances. We concluded by telling them if they wanted to act childish with us we would not take them time to respond in a normal PFC way and they could just have fun with the ringers, to which they agreed and thought would be a good idea. Now we have them posting pictures whining about said ringers in an attempt to 'make us fight our own battle'? All you had to do was act accordingly, now however we end at the same result with us fighting eachother - but with a ton of needless forum posts in between. Best of luck in tonites battles. CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over!



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