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Dr PepperPoP wrote:

xMaggot Brainx wrote:

Dr PepperPoP wrote:

xMaggot Brainx wrote:

Dr PepperPoP wrote:

NF's contract with the PFC council prevents us from accepting any contracts to attack PFC.

And from reading the thread, sounds like TPF asked PFC permission first before doing anything, and got it. I knew I should of read that thread. But i've mostly ignored the subject.

So now we are back to PFC district owners are allowed to attack anyone they want without repercussion.

PFC corporations who have to pay for protection get to decide they can attack anyone in attempt to flip their district but no one can attack them in an attempt to flip theirs?

hmmm.

Again, there's no repercussion to anyone for doing the same thing, so why should PFCers suffer differently?

I already answered that. You should read it again. PFC owners DO OWN land. So we are still at the fact that PFC district owners can vote to allow a PFC district owner to attack outside PFC with the intention to take a district, but no one is allowed to attack PFC with the same intention. They are selling off clones to buy clone packs. I really don't see why they don't use their Districts clones. LOL they sell their clones and then buy them back literally with the money they made selling them. If Kane Spero is half as righteous as he wants people to think he is, he would agree that this is completely against the spirit of PFC. PFC is meant to allow corps to gain experience, not ISK to attack people.

PFC should be run as follows..

1. No corporation can hold land in PFC and outside.

2. Any corp not owning a district may flip a PFC district without interference using 100% their own corp. Defending district owners must defend with 75% their own corp. Any violation will result in violating party being removed by opposite party hiring Kane spero's choice of mercs at a predetermined cost est. by both Kain and current PFC landowners taking into consideration rule 4.

3. No attack can be initiated until defending district has full clone count. This applies to only the first attack. The attacking corp maintains the right to continue attacking as long as they have won. If attacking corp loses they must allow another corp a chance to attack that district but may attack another of the 23.

4. Kain Spero ERA corporation will maintain the 24th district on PFC as partial payment for any policing that may need to be done.

4 rules and that's it plain and simple. This allows all non district owners the same opportunities as the current chosen few.

1) yup, they would of been asked to leave PFC right after if they had flip anything, but with a clone pack, I doubt any district was under any danger of being flipped, so the only harm is they got outside practice.

2) makes no sense to add this, you should read the forums for more details on why the subject needs more attention then your giving it.

3) sounds like a great way to measure graduation. If a corp is flipping others too often from winning to heavily, they're probably ready to move on.

4) You're insane if you think that even comes close to cover cost, you're going back to making PFC charity. Have fun finding a corp to sign up on that and stick around long.


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xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:44:00 - [1] - Quote The same core group of players yet again reap all the benefits of PC. NF gets paid. Kane Spero Gets paid. The PFC puppets yet again sit on the sideline as someone else gains more experience, has all the fun and gets all the salvage and ISK. I see this was the first battle and the attack came via clone pack yet the district owner didn't fight the fight? My guess is they were forced to have Kane Spero buddies fight the battle since it was not a "scheduled" PC. If not then I will change their title to Brainwashed PFC Puppets... BPP Maybe if you guys are rich enough in real life you can hire someone to pick up your controller and play your PS3 for you. That is what your doing in-game so why not just sit back with some snacks and tell them how to build your suits and then watch them play pub matches for you too.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.03.28 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2014.03.28 21:16:00 - [3] - Quote Gelhad Thremyr wrote: I personally find that attacking outside corps when there is no mutual consent on doing it for practice while being in PFC is a clear violation of the ideas behind PFC, as doing so only incurs the wrath of outside corps and in no circumstance help the majority of other corps who will have to pay the bills for the reckless actions brought on the PFC community as a whole. Now I did not read the whole thread but it looks like Kill-Em-Quick was searching for trouble in the first place, trying to check the defence mechanism of PFC am I right here ? I believe TPF was attacking to show they are ready to move off of PFC and be able to hold their own outside PFC. Kind of Ironic they call for help for the 1st battle via clone pack when they are supposedly ready for the MH. Makes you wonder also why Kane Spero and his buddies didn't advise them to try and win the first battle while the ringers stood by in case there was a re-attack. Probably because there only concern is making ISK and playing in PC battles. Cant wait till PFC corps move off of PFC and maybe get a district that will be immediately attacked by the same people who defended their PFC district. Or they hire them to defend that district too..... Keep making Kane and his buddies richer smart people.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:10:00 - [4] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: TPF followed protocol in not using PFC clones for their attack. "Retaliatory" attacks on PFC will not be tolerated. While in their shoes, I would've taken the first fight, the reality is, you cannot try to "retaliate" on a PFC district, and expect to get away with it. PFC districts live in separation from the greater Molden Heath. So now PFC corporations can attack anyone they want within MH itself without repercussion? If you attack someone outside PFC then you have given up your PFC separation by your own definition. Please tell me this is not your point of view.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:11:00 - [5] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread. Come at us bro. Always looking for a good fight... Are you saying we can flip your district? or are you going to call 911? I propose that any corp that does not own land outside of PFC be able to flip a PFC district. Otherwise 24 corps. have a benefit that a 1000 other corps do not.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:25:00 - [6] - Quote quote] Can I ask what the repercussion are to a corp with no districts if they attack you with a clone pack? Are you going to remove them from pubs? Lol Though, if they made this move to hit PC that means they're ready to graduate, right? [/quote] My understanding is that TPF owns a PFC district. Once they attack someone outside of PFC they are no longer living in the Planet Fight Club world. I think ROFL had every right to attack them. As already mentioned KEQ apparently was aware that NF was going to ring for TPH. It is called sending a message. If someone attacks with a clone pack and doesn't own a district, then if they ever do own a district then whoever they attacked with a clone pack then has a chance to retaliate. All though your joke was funny about removing them from pubs. PS. how much does it cost to hire NF to flip a PFC district. as you are a MERC corp.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.28 23:43:00 - [7] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: NF's contract with the PFC council prevents us from accepting any contracts to attack PFC. And from reading the thread, sounds like TPF asked PFC permission first before doing anything, and got it. I knew I should of read that thread. But i've mostly ignored the subject. So now we are back to PFC district owners are allowed to attack anyone they want without repercussion. PFC corporations who have to pay for protection get to decide they can attack anyone in attempt to flip their district but no one can attack them in an attempt to flip theirs? hmmm.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:08:00 - [8] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: NF's contract with the PFC council prevents us from accepting any contracts to attack PFC. And from reading the thread, sounds like TPF asked PFC permission first before doing anything, and got it. I knew I should of read that thread. But i've mostly ignored the subject. So now we are back to PFC district owners are allowed to attack anyone they want without repercussion. PFC corporations who have to pay for protection get to decide they can attack anyone in attempt to flip their district but no one can attack them in an attempt to flip theirs? hmmm. Again, there's no repercussion to anyone for doing the same thing, so why should PFCers suffer differently? I already answered that. You should read it again. PFC owners DO OWN land. So we are still at the fact that PFC district owners can vote to allow a PFC district owner to attack outside PFC with the intention to take a district, but no one is allowed to attack PFC with the same intention. They are selling off clones to buy clone packs. I really don't see why they don't use their Districts clones. LOL they sell their clones and then buy them back literally with the money they made selling them. If Kane Spero is half as righteous as he wants people to think he is, he would agree that this is completely against the spirit of PFC. PFC is meant to allow corps to gain experience, not ISK to attack people. PFC should be run as follows.. 1. No corporation can hold land in PFC and outside. 2. Any corp not owning a district may flip a PFC district without interference using 100% their own corp. Defending district owners must defend with 75% their own corp. Any violation will result in violating party being removed by opposite party hiring Kane spero's choice of mercs at a predetermined cost est. by both Kain and current PFC landowners taking into consideration rule 4. 3. No attack can be initiated until defending district has full clone count. This applies to only the first attack. The attacking corp maintains the right to continue attacking as long as they have won. If attacking corp loses they must allow another corp a chance to attack that district but may attack another of the 23. 4. Kain Spero ERA corporation will maintain the 24th district on PFC as partial payment for any policing that may need to be done. 4 rules and that's it plain and simple. This allows all non district owners the same opportunities as the current chosen few.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:32:00 - [9] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Dr PepperPoP wrote: NF's contract with the PFC council prevents us from accepting any contracts to attack PFC. And from reading the thread, sounds like TPF asked PFC permission first before doing anything, and got it. I knew I should of read that thread. But i've mostly ignored the subject. So now we are back to PFC district owners are allowed to attack anyone they want without repercussion. PFC corporations who have to pay for protection get to decide they can attack anyone in attempt to flip their district but no one can attack them in an attempt to flip theirs? hmmm. Again, there's no repercussion to anyone for doing the same thing, so why should PFCers suffer differently? I already answered that. You should read it again. PFC owners DO OWN land. So we are still at the fact that PFC district owners can vote to allow a PFC district owner to attack outside PFC with the intention to take a district, but no one is allowed to attack PFC with the same intention. They are selling off clones to buy clone packs. I really don't see why they don't use their Districts clones. LOL they sell their clones and then buy them back literally with the money they made selling them. If Kane Spero is half as righteous as he wants people to think he is, he would agree that this is completely against the spirit of PFC. PFC is meant to allow corps to gain experience, not ISK to attack people. PFC should be run as follows.. 1. No corporation can hold land in PFC and outside. 2. Any corp not owning a district may flip a PFC district without interference using 100% their own corp. Defending district owners must defend with 75% their own corp. Any violation will result in violating party being removed by opposite party hiring Kane spero's choice of mercs at a predetermined cost est. by both Kain and current PFC landowners taking into consideration rule 4. 3. No attack can be initiated until defending district has full clone count. This applies to only the first attack. The attacking corp maintains the right to continue attacking as long as they have won. If attacking corp loses they must allow another corp a chance to attack that district but may attack another of the 23. 4. Kain Spero ERA corporation will maintain the 24th district on PFC as partial payment for any policing that may need to be done. 4 rules and that's it plain and simple. This allows all non district owners the same opportunities as the current chosen few. 1) yup, they would of been asked to leave PFC right after if they had flip anything, but with a clone pack, I doubt any district was under any danger of being flipped, so the only harm is they got outside practice. 2) makes no sense to add this, you should read the forums for more details on why the subject needs more attention then your giving it. 3) sounds like a great way to measure graduation. If a corp is flipping others too often from winning to heavily, they're probably ready to move on. 4) You're insane if you think that even comes close to cover cost, you're going back to making PFC charity. Have fun finding a corp to sign up on that and stick around long. your reading skills are horrible. I go backwards since your thinking is backwards 4.) It clearly says partial payment. Read rule 2.... 3.) This rule is meant to allow any non district owner to obtain land that can only be flipped by other non district owners. Your point is flawed because they cant constantly flip district because that would be in violation of rule 1. only 1 pfc district per corp should have been stated 2.) This guidline is simple yet provide the defender a little cushion with alliance help or ringers 25%(4 players). Rule 2 makes complete since because there are a few more than 23 corps deserving a chance on PFC(few meaning hundreds) If it needs more attention I'd ask for a brief explanation because asking me to read thru thousands of thread sounds like a cop out. 1.) I think we agree with rule 1.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:35:00 - [10] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Anyone else getting sick of all these guys making lists about PFC? seriously, it's getting old. Tell them your insults about their genitalia and be done with it. Not as sick as I am of your constant youtube videos. give it a rest you beat that joke into the ground and back out the other side of the earth.

xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:40:00 - [11] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Anyone else getting sick of all these guys making lists about PFC? seriously, it's getting old. Tell them your insults about their genitalia and be done with it. Not as sick as I am of your constant youtube videos. give it a rest you beat that joke into the ground and back out the other side of the earth. Oh right. Knew I forgot something. Thanks for reminding me. Yep your welcome. You cant even remember your own lame joke. Good reason why you should just post on threads about tacos and other immature topics.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2014.03.29 03:43:00 - [12] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: your reading skills are horrible. Wasn't trying to rip your ideas a part, and admittedly, didn't read through rule 2. Still, if things could honestly be broken down this simply it would of have been, a long time ago. But I'm glad to see you've come around and are on board with keeping NF as paid police. :3 If policing is required the police should be paid. Find a way to allow more corps to participate in PFC. That is all...
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:59:00 - [13] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Scooberz wrote: Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3 Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread. Come at us bro. Always looking for a good fight... Are you saying we can flip your district? or are you going to call 911? I propose that any corp that does not own land outside of PFC be able to flip a PFC district. Otherwise 24 corps. have a benefit that a 1000 other corps do not. Come on down with Cruller Organization and give us a good fight, if you win, let's exchange GG's, if we win, GG's, and you leave. One battle, jus like ML, Necro, and many others have done in the spirit of good fights. No district flip, good fights. Actually you are the one who needs a testosterone injection, cause you really sound like a chick who broke a nail... A chick that broke a nail? That was lame. How about we own the PFC district and you fight us. apparently your corp sucks because you are still on PFC. so be quit. I'm talking to those who police PFC not the puppets on it.