They did nothing wrong by calling NF we talked to them before the battle and never told them weather we were sending a clone pac or moveing clones because it was a test attack to gather intel on how they would react for future knowledge and we got are answer. i try to send a message to people when we send PFC attacks for training but this case was different. We like to keep a tab on corps that have the bat signal in there merc room.

whats with all the "send a message to the corp letting them know youre attacking them" lol wat?

i thought this was training to get into real PC? last time i checked corps dont message you before they attack.

KEQ has been training on PFC for months, our track record there is second to none. we have fought many battles on PFC and have never even attempted a district flip. not once have we sent messages to the corp before hand. you can ask any of the long time PFC corps... we've fought them all at one point or another.

i dont mind fighting ringers its the name of this game. however, NF has led the community to believe this planet was for the "good of the game". this little incident shows to me they're full of BS and PFC is exactly what alot of us thought it was... just a racketeering and extortion plan.

this thread wasnt so much a "QQ oh lord i had to fight NF" as it was a "look community these guys are complete douchebags"

the PFC Council has been sending PFC corps after ROFL districts with intentions to flip them, wonder if that has anything to do with this?

TLDR: the phoenix federation's vaginas are bigger than their brains. PFC is a joke and is only for profit.

@Fire2MyBlunt if you have Kain Spero's balls on your chin are they called chin nuts?

Pretty sure setting up attacks in PFC has always been the way its worked. Also as it stands, KEQ isnt in PFC so when you dont coordinate properly with the other corps in PFC it looks like youre trying to flip.

I wouldnt go running my mouth off either or else you might find your corp kicked out of PC.

BTW nice insult. I bet it took you at least a couple days to come up with that one...

Please point where he ran his mouth.

whats the mistake we made? using PFC for training matches like was intended?

I think you are mistaken about the PFC rules. There is no obligation to send a mail when sending an attack on PFC. In fact, it was proposed as a rule, but it was deemed unnecessary by the PFC council and Kain Spero himself. Here is what Kain Spero had to say about the topic:

http://forums.dust-gents.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=1928



So actually, KEQ followed all the rules. A clone pack, no intention of flipping, no use of ringers outside the alliance.


I know the war room is boring right now, but come on, I expected better from you. We are not complaining about fighting FA. We just find the whole situation lolworthy. What kind of training can a PFC corp get if they run screaming for help when KEQ (of all corps) launches a clone pack attack. On a full cargo hub.

See!? The Spanish Sex God strikes again

looks like someone needs to check with his boss what the rules are. you gonna be suspended without pay? oh wait im sure it will be suspended WITH pay, just like the real world police do.

i don't know if the battle was fun. i had the forge gun glitch and couldn't fire my weapon forcing me to leave the battle...

The same core group of players yet again reap all the benefits of PC. NF gets paid. Kane Spero Gets paid. The PFC puppets yet again sit on the sideline as someone else gains more experience, has all the fun and gets all the salvage and ISK.

I see this was the first battle and the attack came via clone pack yet the district owner didn't fight the fight?

My guess is they were forced to have Kane Spero buddies fight the battle since it was not a "scheduled" PC.

If not then I will change their title to Brainwashed PFC Puppets... BPP

Maybe if you guys are rich enough in real life you can hire someone to pick up your controller and play your PS3 for you.
That is what your doing in-game so why not just sit back with some snacks and tell them how to build your suits and then watch them play pub matches for you too.

Boys boys boys... there's just way to much testosterone in here... I felt like I had to say something. <3

Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread.

Every person in this thread sucks ****!!!!!!

Hey what about mine!?

Ok fair. Still meant it though.

Dear Mr. Spero,

As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this:



So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response.

So now PFC corporations can attack anyone they want within MH itself without repercussion?

If you attack someone outside PFC then you have given up your PFC separation by your own definition.


Please tell me this is not you point of view.

So now we are back to PFC district owners are allowed to attack anyone they want without repercussion.

PFC corporations who have to pay for protection get to decide they can attack anyone in attempt to flip their district but no one can attack them in an attempt to flip theirs?

hmmm.

I already answered that. You should read it again. PFC owners DO OWN land. So we are still at the fact that PFC district owners can vote to allow a PFC district owner to attack outside PFC with the intention to take a district, but no one is allowed to attack PFC with the same intention. They are selling off clones to buy clone packs. I really don't see why they don't use their Districts clones. LOL they sell their clones and then buy them back literally with the money they made selling them. If Kane Spero is half as righteous as he wants people to think he is, he would agree that this is completely against the spirit of PFC. PFC is meant to allow corps to gain experience, not ISK to attack people.

PFC should be run as follows..

1. No corporation can hold land in PFC and outside.

2. Any corp not owning a district may flip a PFC district without interference using 100% their own corp. Defending district owners must defend with 75% their own corp. Any violation will result in violating party being removed by opposite party hiring Kane spero's choice of mercs at a predetermined cost est. by both Kain and current PFC landowners taking into consideration rule 4.

3. No attack can be initiated until defending district has full clone count. This applies to only the first attack. The attacking corp maintains the right to continue attacking as long as they have won. If attacking corp loses they must allow another corp a chance to attack that district but may attack another of the 23.

4. Kain Spero ERA corporation will maintain the 24th district on PFC as partial payment for any policing that may need to be done.

4 rules and that's it plain and simple. This allows all non district owners the same opportunities as the current chosen few.

your reading skills are horrible.

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