I personally find that attacking outside corps when there is no mutual consent on doing it for practice while being in PFC is a clear violation of the ideas behind PFC, as doing so only incurs the wrath of outside corps and in no circumstance help the majority of other corps who will have to pay the bills for the reckless actions brought on the PFC community as a whole.

Now I did not read the whole thread but it looks like Kill-Em-Quick was searching for trouble in the first place, trying to check the defence mechanism of PFC am I right here ?

Only if PFC corps could borrow a little of the testosterone from this thread.

TPF followed protocol in not using PFC clones for their attack. "Retaliatory" attacks on PFC will not be tolerated. While in their shoes, I would've taken the first fight, the reality is, you cannot try to "retaliate" on a PFC district, and expect to get away with it. PFC districts live in separation from the greater Molden Heath.

Come at us bro.

Always looking for a good fight...

So now PFC corporations can attack anyone they want within MH itself without repercussion?

If you attack someone outside PFC then you have given up your PFC separation by your own definition.


Please tell me this is not you point of view.

NF's contract with the PFC council prevents us from accepting any contracts to attack PFC.

And from reading the thread, sounds like TPF asked PFC permission first before doing anything, and got it. I knew I should of read that thread. But i've mostly ignored the subject.

So now we are back to PFC district owners are allowed to attack anyone they want without repercussion.

PFC corporations who have to pay for protection get to decide they can attack anyone in attempt to flip their district but no one can attack them in an attempt to flip theirs?

hmmm.

Again, there's no repercussion to anyone for doing the same thing, so why should PFCers suffer differently?

I already answered that. You should read it again. PFC owners DO OWN land. So we are still at the fact that PFC district owners can vote to allow a PFC district owner to attack outside PFC with the intention to take a district, but no one is allowed to attack PFC with the same intention. They are selling off clones to buy clone packs. I really don't see why they don't use their Districts clones. LOL they sell their clones and then buy them back literally with the money they made selling them. If Kane Spero is half as righteous as he wants people to think he is, he would agree that this is completely against the spirit of PFC. PFC is meant to allow corps to gain experience, not ISK to attack people.

PFC should be run as follows..

1. No corporation can hold land in PFC and outside.

2. Any corp not owning a district may flip a PFC district without interference using 100% their own corp. Defending district owners must defend with 75% their own corp. Any violation will result in violating party being removed by opposite party hiring Kane spero's choice of mercs at a predetermined cost est. by both Kain and current PFC landowners taking into consideration rule 4.

3. No attack can be initiated until defending district has full clone count. This applies to only the first attack. The attacking corp maintains the right to continue attacking as long as they have won. If attacking corp loses they must allow another corp a chance to attack that district but may attack another of the 23.

4. Kain Spero ERA corporation will maintain the 24th district on PFC as partial payment for any policing that may need to be done.

4 rules and that's it plain and simple. This allows all non district owners the same opportunities as the current chosen few.

1) yup, they would of been asked to leave PFC right after if they had flip anything, but with a clone pack, I doubt any district was under any danger of being flipped, so the only harm is they got outside practice.

2) makes no sense to add this, you should read the forums for more details on why the subject needs more attention then your giving it.

3) sounds like a great way to measure graduation. If a corp is flipping others too often from winning to heavily, they're probably ready to move on.

4) You're insane if you think that even comes close to cover cost, you're going back to making PFC charity. Have fun finding a corp to sign up on that and stick around long.

Anyone else getting sick of all these guys making lists about PFC? seriously, it's getting old. Tell them your insults about their genitalia and be done with it.

Not as sick as I am of your constant youtube videos. give it a rest you beat that joke into the ground and back out the other side of the earth.

Oh right. Knew I forgot something. Thanks for reminding me.

Yep your welcome. You cant even remember your own lame joke. Good reason why you should just post on threads about tacos and other immature topics.

your reading skills are horrible.

Wasn't trying to rip your ideas a part, and admittedly, didn't read through rule 2.

Still, if things could honestly be broken down this simply it would of have been, a long time ago.

But I'm glad to see you've come around and are on board with keeping NF as paid police. :3

Maggot, a corp has to have a chance to graduate. We allow them to attack (Not with PFC clones, they're forbidden) and take a district, if they can hold it, they'll sell back their PFC district, and presto. PFC should be treated as outside of the rest of PC (which is why they aren't allowed to stage attacks off of PFC), as any supposedly retaliatory strikes towards PFC are hostile attacks, and will be met with the full force of DNS. Attack at your own peril.

If a corp is ready to move off PFC and get into PC then why would they not be ready to defend there PFC district and put it on the line. I mean whats the point of them to get a PC district if there not ready to defend it. or even better when a corp is ready to move off why cant they just buy a district from DNS that way they don't **** people off by attacking then hideing behind PFC rules

They never hid behind PFC rules. They attacked a member of your alliance with a clone pack. Your alliance cried about it and you assaulted PFC.

Its like throwing rocks at people walking down the street while you are standing in a police station situation is a little annoying after a while.