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Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:38:00 -
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whats with all the "send a message to the corp letting them know youre attacking them" lol wat?
i thought this was training to get into real PC? last time i checked corps dont message you before they attack.
KEQ has been training on PFC for months, our track record there is second to none. we have fought many battles on PFC and have never even attempted a district flip. not once have we sent messages to the corp before hand. you can ask any of the long time PFC corps... we've fought them all at one point or another.
i dont mind fighting ringers its the name of this game. however, NF has led the community to believe this planet was for the "good of the game". this little incident shows to me they're full of BS and PFC is exactly what alot of us thought it was... just a racketeering and extortion plan.
this thread wasnt so much a "QQ oh lord i had to fight NF" as it was a "look community these guys are complete douchebags"
the PFC Council has been sending PFC corps after ROFL districts with intentions to flip them, wonder if that has anything to do with this?
TLDR: the phoenix federation's vaginas are bigger than their brains. PFC is a joke and is only for profit.
@Fire2MyBlunt if you have Kain Spero's balls on your chin are they called chin nuts? |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:18:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:
They make a mistake, and blame everyone else. Lol
whats the mistake we made? using PFC for training matches like was intended?
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Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:07:00 -
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Fire2MyBlunt wrote:For Dust user your a horrible PR , you caused this not us lmao . ****** with the wrong corporation .
yes, im not a PR person.
****** with the wrong corporation? are you referring to phoenix federation? lol if so nice joke, i laughed. |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:19:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Flyingconejo wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:So, we get phoned up and are the douches for handling our contract with PFC? Gotcha. It's not KEQ's fault at all, none at all, that the other corp called in NF. Nope, that's NF's fault cause they're jerks!
And KEQ NEVER remembers sending out mails to corps for PFC fights! So it must of never happened, so they're not responsible for keeping up with the rules.
I think you are mistaken about the PFC rules. There is no obligation to send a mail when sending an attack on PFC. In fact, it was proposed as a rule, but it was deemed unnecessary by the PFC council and Kain Spero himself. Here is what Kain Spero had to say about the topic: http://forums.dust-gents.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=1928Quote:Kain Spero
Post subject: Re: [Proposal Idea] Contacting Before Attacking
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:41 pm
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I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient.
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So actually, KEQ followed all the rules. A clone pack, no intention of flipping, no use of ringers outside the alliance. I know the war room is boring right now, but come on, I expected better from you. We are not complaining about fighting FA. We just find the whole situation lolworthy. What kind of training can a PFC corp get if they run screaming for help when KEQ (of all corps) launches a clone pack attack. On a full cargo hub.  damnit, so you guys DO check it. :D For those wondering where this is coming from - PFC has it's own forums for these discussions.
looks like someone needs to check with his boss what the rules are. you gonna be suspended without pay? oh wait im sure it will be suspended WITH pay, just like the real world police do. |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:42:00 -
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Dr PepperPoP wrote:Dust User wrote:looks like someone needs to check with his boss what the rules are. you gonna be suspended without pay? oh wait im sure it will be suspended WITH pay, just like the real world police do. D'aww, is someone jelly he's not allowed to print ISK anymore? Boo hoooooo.
no, it was more a poke at the corruption in police departments. i thought locking districts was boring myself, i love to fight. |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:57:00 -
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Poncho Polous wrote:
Despite their shocked and chagrined tone here, KEQ came and told us ahead of time that they would be assaulting PFC for their alliance, and were also told ahead of time that they would be wasting their time as kane's ringers used and abused them all over the battlefield.
Not sure why they decided it would be a good idea anyways.
you can threaten us with whatever ringers you want. that has never worked with KEQ and never will. you think we're scared of these guys? if so the jokes on you.
as i said in my first post in this thread the PFC Council has been sending PFC corps after ROFL districts. so we attacked one of those corps back stopping them from moving clones and looking for a good fight in the meantime. whats so wrong with that?
since the only district you have is PFC and we cant flip it this is the only way we can fight back. if defending your alliance mates is a crime, we're guilty as charged. |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:17:00 -
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Poncho Polous wrote:
Naw mate there was no miscommunication, KEQ just crying a bit,
They tell us they want to flip a PFC district, we tell them if that's the case he'll be fighting Kane's ringers,
next day they take pictures and cry on forums?
LOL not our fault ur leadership leaves u in the dark, and u dunno why things are happening around u, they knew fine and well who that battle would be vs.
P.S. it was your ''war commander'' that had us bring them ringers instead of ourselves, we offered to set up any training battles they wanted, but since they view themselves as being at a competitive level with the top corps out there, they thought Kane's ringers would be fun.
Guess it wasn't fun?
i don't know if the battle was fun. i had the forge gun glitch and couldn't fire my weapon forcing me to leave the battle... twice! you ADS pilots got lucky! however, by the sounds of the chat it sounded like a good time. we always have fun in PC, it's why we play this game.
i never told you we wanted to flip your district. that is just a flat out lie. |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.27 18:07:00 -
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Alaska Kilgannon wrote:
your mate Dust User said himself that Kain's forces were attacking your alliance corps
what i said was you (phoenix federation) were attacking our alliance mates under direction of the PFC Council.
for those who don't know this is how i was told it works.
1. you decide you're ready to move off PFC
2. the council votes on if you're ready
3. if the council decides you're ready they tell you who you're allowed to attack
in this case the corp they were approved to attack was a member of ROFL. as i said KEQ attacking you was just helping our alliance and getting a good fight out of it at the same time. KEQ has never been in the business of flipping PFC districts and has no plans to start now. our reputation on this matter should speak for itself.
@sota not only are tanks everywhere we can't do anything about it if our guns won't fire! sh*t is so irritating lol |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:26:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC.
Dear Mr. Spero,
As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this:
Quote:I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient.
So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response. |
Dust User
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:59:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Dr PepperPoP wrote:Dust User wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Next time send a mail. PFC members are always within their right to make a defense request from an attack from outside of PFC. Dear Mr. Spero, As my amazing spanish colleague points out here you were quoted as saying this: Quote:I think PFC should be as close to a live fire exercise as possible. In that regard I don't think prior notice should be given to an attack. I would however encourage members to communicate if they will not be able to field a team on a certain date for whatever reason so PFC members can not attack them as a courtesy or set up and attack for when it is convenient. So i now ask you what is your official stance on this matter? It seems to me that you are making up the rules as you go to fit your agenda at the time. I will look forward to your response. His statements don't contradict. In his first comment, he's merely pointing out that a corp is in there rights to summon a defense when hit from a possibly hostile force from outside. The second is him stating the actual process of making mail sending a rule is un-needed, this does not go on to say that outside powers can just pounce whenever and expect a PFC force for them. A certain level of communication is required. But it's not mandatory, just don't expect the results your seeking without it. If there's any problem here at all - it would be that BOTH parties failed to set this up as a proper PFC match, one side seeing the other as hostile. TPF really should of sent a mail themselves inquiring before jumping the gun to call NF. But that's just my opinion. Pretty much sums it up.
you guys are good spin-doctors, i'll give you that.
had fun in last nights battles and we'll meet again soon, but until then....
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Dust User
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:08:00 -
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That batphone still works.
lol phoenix federation
We had the match won until them damn ADS took over! See you tomorrow, ERA. o7 |
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