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Youknowutimsayin
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:30:00 -
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Competition between Heavies and Scouts is great right now and a 20% hit to heavy eHP could make that go away. A sub 10K ISK Scout can obliterate a very expensive PRO heavy before the big guy gets turned around, but if the heavy sees the scout first in close quarters its over for the skinny. Why mess with that? I already feel bad (not really) when I take an expensive suit down.
Not to mention the heavys that are on our team. They're great for standing behind. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:33:00 -
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Heavies are, well, heavy. I don't think they are broken (exception Gal Sent. I'll explain in a moment.) I think they are pretty well-balanced.
The exception is Gal Sent. Saw one yesterday with 1200 armour.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2387
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:34:00 -
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Don't nerf them that much.
Just decrease their turn speed like it used to be.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:35:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:+-+
Don't nerf them that much.
Just decrease their turn speed like it used to be.
An hmg rof nerf is a bit needed though...
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
1187
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:36:00 -
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I don't really care either way.
Except if heavies DO get a 20% HP nerf, then I might be inclined to get NK Prof 4 and use an enhanced sidearm damage mod since I'll be able to OHK them with a single charged swipe.
So I suppose it'd be better if they weren't nerfed as I wouldn't be tempted to spend the SP. |
pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:37:00 -
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Well before playing 1.8 I thought heavies deserved an ehp nerf, now.... Let them only use heavy weapons and slow their rotation speed and they are fine. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:37:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Heavies are, well, heavy. I don't think they are broken (exception Gal Sent. I'll explain in a moment.) I think they are pretty well-balanced.
The exception is Gal Sent. Saw one yesterday with 1200 armour.
Nearly forgot the best part. It was a STD Gal Sent.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
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Youknowutimsayin
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:39:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Heavies are, well, heavy. I don't think they are broken (exception Gal Sent. I'll explain in a moment.) I think they are pretty well-balanced.
The exception is Gal Sent. Saw one yesterday with 1200 armour. Nearly forgot the best part. It was a STD Gal Sent.
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
627
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:40:00 -
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If CCP makes the Minmatar Sentinel have even less HP I don't know what I'm going to do.
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Naviticus
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:47:00 -
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heavies need a ehp nerf but, yet scouts are going 20/30+ kills with less deaths than heavies
...interesting |
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RendonaSix
In Aliena Amarr Legionem
40
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:51:00 -
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Signed. TechMechMeds filthy scrubby heathen heavy will definitely feel that hit because he runs it speedy style with quick regen like a typical minmatar scumbag.
"For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Corporation
460
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:55:00 -
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Naviticus wrote:heavies need a ehp nerf but, yet scouts are going 20/30+ kills with less deaths than heavies
...interesting
give my heavy active hardners then well talk about ehp nerf
Because every heavy, every logi, every assault in every match still plays like a rambo Lone Wolf, and it is really easy for scouts to kill Lone wolves. Start playing as you re supposed to do, in a team, and a lot of scouts will die |
Regnier Feros
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:09:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Heavies are, well, heavy. I don't think they are broken (exception Gal Sent. I'll explain in a moment.) I think they are pretty well-balanced.
The exception is Gal Sent. Saw one yesterday with 1200 armour.
my amarr sentinel has 1100 armor 
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BrutorDestructor
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:13:00 -
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The exception is Gal Sent. Saw one yesterday with 1200 armour.[/quote]
Nearly forgot the best part. It was a STD Gal Sent.[/quote]
that is impossible with max armour skill the std gal sent can only tank 953 armour with two complex plates |
sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion
Zero-Day
60
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:25:00 -
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I think they could do with a buff, a single charge from my ishikone knives is usually enough to down all but the most tanked heavy suits. Usually because I am cloaked and wait for them to pass me first  . I do see how the assault or logi class would have trouble killing anything now anyways (considering that balac's gar-21 does as much as the old basic ar now).
Over all, I like 1.8. It got me to actually think about skilling into a gun that isn't a rifle. (Shotty for the win!)
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dullrust
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:31:00 -
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The heavy does not need a ehp nerf. I use a scout, a heavy, and a logi. What needs to be looked at is the pg/cpu. I love my gall heavy. Though I am rather confused by something. I can fit all ADVANCED gear on a standard. I can fit ANYTHING on the proto. Both of these still have room to spare on both cpu and pg.
The turn speeds may need a look at also. I don't notice a change when running all complex plates. Which I only do to guard tight area objectives. Normally I run All reps. That extra movement is killer! But my rotation is ,or ar least, feels the same.
Perhaps on heavies stacking all plates could have more of an effect. This would only effect rotation. Every 3% movement penalty adds 1% extra movement penalty to rotation. So its 3% to run/walk and 4% to rotation. There an ehp nerf without an ehp nerf.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
1077
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:32:00 -
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Heavies aren't OP, although i die super fast by HMGs i don't think a nerf is required.
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Kage Roth
Wolf-Monkey Bastards
106
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:45:00 -
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I agree, as they stand now heavies are well balanced. Scouts are a little OP, but that is another matter. Just buff the mediums by a touch and bring them up with everyone else. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6203
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:51:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
1163
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:07:00 -
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If you really cant kill a heavy from behind
your doing something wrong.
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VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
407
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:09:00 -
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Def dont nerf, they need every hp they get
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2109
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:14:00 -
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I like going up against current heavies. Notch down turn speed and they'll be perfect.
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Youknowutimsayin
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:03:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:If you really cant kill a heavy from behind
your doing something wrong.
Exactly |
Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:06:00 -
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I would let them keep their high hp, if they had their turn speed reduced like it used to be. That's the best way to balance them. Hit them from behind or die.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:08:00 -
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Reducing the health on a infantry tank based class... Before even talking about their DPS output... is short sighted and rash.
Specially in increments as big as 20%
DPS or turn speed caps should be talked about before we even think about touching their health. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:11:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Reducing the health on a infantry tank based class... Before even talking about their DPS output... is short sighted and rash.
Specially in increments as big as 20%
DPS or turn speed caps should be talked about before we even think about touching their health.
Yes
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RendonaSix
In Aliena Amarr Legionem
40
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:11:00 -
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I'm enjoying the fact that heavies are not just free kills now.
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XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:11:00 -
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Scouts are the only guys who understand the heavy
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Bro-metheus
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:15:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Heavies are, well, heavy. I don't think they are broken (exception Gal Sent. I'll explain in a moment.) I think they are pretty well-balanced.
The exception is Gal Sent. Saw one yesterday with 1200 armour.
that suit might seem good but he is weak to other things. 1# he wont last long in any sustained shootout as he has jimped his armor regen. best thing to do is hit him from a distance and just pluck his health down. or if your a shotgun scout wait till he is distracted drop a re at his feet (that much armor means he is to slow to get away) run out of range of your re and detonate it. Also a sniper rifle on his flank will merc him hard if your at around 60m or more and if you are flanking or hitting him from behind he wont figure it out till its too late. and if the does and goes to hide, cloak and press him down with grenades (again he is too slow to avoid them) or MD
Like i said he is the SLOWEST suit it the game! use stuff that nails that. MD GRENADES LR FLUX SNIPER RIFLE, SCR with charge shot RE, RR. |
DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
277
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:16:00 -
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nerf is a harsh word
but IMHO heavy's need to be tweaked a bit
my problem with them may be the hmg or the ehp
anyways the hmg is killing at 40+ meters (std not assault)
and yesteday I seen heavy after heavy running around with zero logi support and wrecking everything in their path
this IMO is not right, the heavy should need logi support to do this
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